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Title: Guess
Post by: JohnP on November 27, 2015, 03:29:10 PM
You never know what is going to come into your call out in the middle of the desert. 

Entrance hole, can you guess the caliber and distance?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/johnp18/Cats/post-3282-0-00432200-1448428208_thumb_zpsmabpewkf.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/johnp18/media/Cats/post-3282-0-00432200-1448428208_thumb_zpsmabpewkf.jpeg.html)

Exit hole, can you guess the critter?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/johnp18/post-3282-0-92912500-1448428184_thumb_zpsfo21mi4k.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/johnp18/media/post-3282-0-92912500-1448428184_thumb_zpsfo21mi4k.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: Hawks Feather on November 27, 2015, 04:12:06 PM
I made several guesses that I have deleted since they were not nice at all.

Mule deer, .223 armor piercing, 35 yards.

Jerry
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: pitw on November 27, 2015, 05:56:49 PM
Mexican hairless Bobcat with a 257 Roberts 87gr BTSP doing 3375fps at entry and a mite less at exit. :wo:
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: FinsnFur on November 27, 2015, 08:03:17 PM
I actually think it's a bird but I know you wouldnt skin a bird so I'm gonna throw a hail Mary and say an Ocelot taken with a 22cal
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: JohnP on November 27, 2015, 09:43:42 PM
Quote from: FinsnFur on November 27, 2015, 08:03:17 PM
Ocelot taken with a 22cal

"Arizona Game and Fish Department officials report that a rare ocelot was observed  in the Huachuca Mountains in southern Arizona.
An ocelot is a rare and endangered species of cat. "

No way would I shoot a rare and endangered cat.  But I can honestly tell you that they are not as rare as the Game Commission thinks they are.  After living in the Huachuca's for 37 years I have seen my fair share of them.
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: HaMeR on November 29, 2015, 06:41:57 AM
200lb muley doe at 235yds. 17HMR with the 17gr V-Max!!!!   :yoyo: :yoyo:

:nono: idea!! 
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: riverboss on November 29, 2015, 08:13:35 AM
Quote from: HaMeR on November 29, 2015, 06:41:57 AM
200lb muley doe at 235yds. 17HMR with the 17gr V-Max!!!!   :yoyo: :yoyo:

:nono: idea!!
In a 30 mph wind.

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Title: Re: Guess
Post by: Okanagan on November 29, 2015, 09:15:44 AM
The meat looks a little bit light colored.  That could be pork or cougar -- or air dried venison.  .223 at 42 yds. shooting uphill if I'm seeing the anatomy correctly.

The prickly pear is sideways.  Must be really steep country.  :biggrin:  John, here's a tip for us old codgers:  wear a shirt with vertical stripes.  Then when you look in the mirror, if the lines don't go up and down change your position till they do. 

Title: Re: Guess
Post by: Hawks Feather on November 29, 2015, 11:01:13 AM
I saw the prickly pear and thought the same thing.  I also appreciate the tip about the stripped shirt.  It will let me know if I am standing up or laying down. 

Jerry
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: JohnP on November 29, 2015, 11:42:20 AM
Not too steep but steep enough that a guy with a bad back, bad feet, bad legs and a nervous system shot to hell should ever try to go down, let alone come back up.  I have called many coyotes and bobcat out of this little ravine and thought I would give it a go once again.  The caller is at the bottom right hand side and I'm about thirty yards up the grade.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/johnp18/Scenic004.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/johnp18/media/Scenic004.jpg.html)

Had my Savage Walking Varminter, .204 shooting factory 32 grain Hornady V-Max at 4,000fps.  Turned the caller (WT) on and within minutes saw something moving on the far hillside in the cut on the left near the bottom of the page in the thick stuff.  Could never make out what is was until he stepped out into the bottom, moving very slowly and cautiously.  I couldn't get a clean shot as he was creeping on his belly from sagebrush to sagebrush.  When he finally stepped out into the opening I took the shot, Clyde your off by about 3 yards, please try to do better next time.  It took me a little over two hours to get out of that ravine the last hundred yards or so on my hands and knees and without the cat.  A friend had to come back and retrieve him for me.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/johnp18/Cats/post-3282-0-42602700-1448427870_thumb_zpsqx1motfs.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/johnp18/media/Cats/post-3282-0-42602700-1448427870_thumb_zpsqx1motfs.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/johnp18/Cats/post-3282-0-54459500-1448428096_thumb_zpsii6dybmm.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/johnp18/media/Cats/post-3282-0-54459500-1448428096_thumb_zpsii6dybmm.jpeg.html)

Title: Re: Guess
Post by: Okanagan on November 29, 2015, 12:43:42 PM
Whoooeee!  WTG!

Title: Re: Guess
Post by: nastygunz on November 29, 2015, 02:34:49 PM
Pretty dang cool! You eat them? I always read that they were really good eating.
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: Okanagan on November 29, 2015, 03:04:26 PM
I have a couple more minutes now to comment.  That's a call-in of a lifetime for most hunters, and you did it with about half of your cylinders firing!  Impressive.  Tell your wife to let you out of the house a little more and give you a longer leash...

We are tickled for you!







Title: Re: Guess
Post by: Hawks Feather on November 29, 2015, 07:00:07 PM
Wow.  Now that is impressive - crawling out that is.  Oh yea, the big cat is almost as impressive.  And next time take someone along so they can have fun too.

Jerry


Edit added:  John, do you know what we call a .204 shooting factory ammo?  We call it .223 armor piercing.  Now who was it that said that?
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: coyote101 on November 29, 2015, 07:24:43 PM
Very nice Mr. JohnP.  :yoyo: What a trophy that would be for anyone.  :biggrin: You're the man.  :bowingsmilie:

Pat
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: gravesco hunter on November 29, 2015, 08:12:56 PM
Very nice what a trophy,the 204 is a very good round
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: pitw on November 29, 2015, 09:03:38 PM
Stunningly good story sir John. :yoyo: :yoyo:  Me hat is off to you and now I know I need a haircut.
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: Okanagan on November 30, 2015, 09:16:58 AM
Got to chuckling here as I read over the story again.  SNAFU and I have been chasing cougars and reporting our failures here for several years and you hobble out and kill one without even specifically trying for one.  :huh:  :congrats:  Cosmic humor!   :alscalls:

 


Title: Re: Guess
Post by: JohnP on November 30, 2015, 10:12:05 AM
In that terrain a lion was the last thing I expected to see.  Most of it is flat and nothing but sage and cactus.  My theory is that he has been kicked out of his range and was moving into another mountain range, from the Huachucha Mountains into either the Dagoons or the Mule Mountains. 

Nasty - Will not be eating this one although have had them in the past.  He has been butchered, wrapped and frozen and a good friend will be by to pick him up.  I expect I'll be invited over for some BBQ in the near future. 

Thank you all for the compliments.  And yes the .204 can and will get the job done.
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: JohnP on November 30, 2015, 10:48:22 AM
Quote from: Okanagan on November 30, 2015, 09:16:58 AM
Got to chuckling here as I read over the story again.  SNAFU and I have been chasing cougars and reporting our failures here for several years and you hobble out and kill one without even specifically trying for one.  :huh:  :congrats:  Cosmic humor!   :alscalls:



I would be willing to bet that most lions are taken while a person is deer hunting or calling for coyotes, except for the professional guides who hunt lions for a living.  Had I been looking to kill a lion that spot is the last place I would have gone to.  We decided to do a full mount and then donate it for auction at the next local RMEF Banquet.

Might add that once again I am bed/lazy boy ridden and my days going out into the desert are limited.  It's been a good and fun ride but I can truly see the end of it.  Will now have to live it through my grandsons and you guys. 
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: Dale on November 30, 2015, 11:26:12 AM
John... as usual I'm thoroughly impressed by all aspects of your story... cool cat, impressive results by the rifle/rounds killing ability, and last but not least, your tenacity in getting in and out of a tight situation...  you are the man...   :thumb2:
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: gravesco hunter on November 30, 2015, 04:05:58 PM
As I have always thought you are a unique and special man
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: HaMeR on November 30, 2015, 06:28:32 PM
Congratulations on a fine hunt & a dandy Lion Mr. John!!  :yoyo: :yoyo: 

Thank You for sharing your story!! I certainly am glad you got back out of that ravine & if this is one of your last hunts what a way to go out & may Peace be with you in your recliner Sir!!  :highclap: :highclap:
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: riverboss on November 30, 2015, 07:34:25 PM
JohnP sounds like you just hit a home run! What a story and with that lion being there! It was to be you've gave so much to your country you deserved it.
Thank you for your sacrifice's your a true hero.

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Title: Re: Guess
Post by: Dave on November 30, 2015, 09:19:31 PM
Great hunt and write up, John.

Quote from: JohnP on November 30, 2015, 10:12:05 AM
In that terrain a lion was the last thing I expected to see.
Betcha that lion was thinking the same about you!
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: FinsnFur on November 30, 2015, 09:54:51 PM
Wow :shock2:  A lion? Really?  :highclap: :yoyo:
That is so cool! Very nice sir.
Ya know what? I was kinda close when I guessed a bird  :innocentwhistle: Cats like birds :shrug:


I love that this came together for ya. I really do. I hate the fact that it hurts ya. Once again you push yourself to the limit. I hope Marge dont read the forum :nono: :wink:

Title: Re: Guess
Post by: nailbender on December 01, 2015, 08:09:59 PM
 Congrats John!
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: HaMeR on December 08, 2015, 07:25:18 AM
Mr. John-- Have you been using your Caldwell Field Pod? If so do you have an opinion on it? Good or bad?
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: Dale on December 08, 2015, 10:08:08 AM
John as liberal as AZ is with everything else, what about hunting from a side by side 4 wheeler?... a couple camo curtains, some sort of rifle rest and you'd be set... your blazer will pull one on a light trailer with no problem... with your limited parking at the house leave it out at the ranch...
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: JohnP on December 17, 2015, 05:44:20 PM
Glen, I used it once maybe twice last year during deer season.  Has been in the shed collecting dust since then.  Every time my boy visits from Phoenix he will ask:  "Hey dad you using that pod you bought?"   Bought a Caldwell Lead Sled for out at the rifle range - like it very much.   

Dale -  "John as liberal as AZ is" - BAD, very bad choice of words, you may have just lost your room in Arizona!  I can get a permit to hunt from a vehicle and even shoot from it but I just will not do that. 
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: Dale on December 17, 2015, 08:04:19 PM
Quote from: JohnP on December 17, 2015, 05:44:20 PM
Dale -  "John as liberal as AZ is" - BAD, very bad choice of words, you may have just lost your room in Arizona!  I can get a permit to hunt from a vehicle and even shoot from it but I just will not do that.

LOL John, not in the literal sense, but as with the open carry, hunting anywhere it's not posted, the seasons etc... 

ok so if you ride it in, dismount, camo cover it and shoot from 10' away... I know it doesn't sit well with you but it would still allow you to get out and bust a cap or cat...    :biggrin:
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: HaMeR on December 18, 2015, 05:16:41 AM
Thanks. I use mine for groundhogs quite a bit. But with that type of hunting there is usually a good bit of setting & waiting. I do like mine a great deal for that. I seen @ Cabelas a couple weeks ago a newer version. Happy enough with mine I didn't look it over for any differences.
Title: Re: Guess
Post by: snafu on December 19, 2015, 12:22:32 PM
Nice! I want one   :bowingsmilie: