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Ted Nugent on the Second Amendment

Started by KySongDog, August 24, 2009, 10:08:26 AM

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KySongDog

Ted Nugent can explain the Second Amendment much better that I can.   :yoyo:



possumal

No doubt Ted Nugent says a lot of things any of us might say if asked the same question.  I received this same video 4 times last week but it had a text with it with the theme being "Gun confiscation started" and referencing SB-2099 which was supposedly the bill that would start this confiscation. Problem is there is no SB-2099.  It was part of a chain letter hoax.  You can verify that at the following link: 

Privately Owned Gun Tax? | FactCheck.orgGUN Control via IRS Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It may require fingerprints. ...
www.factcheck.org/2009/06/privately-owned-gun-tax/
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Bopeye

ACTUALLY THERE WAS A BILL. It's just old news. This comes from the NRA.


Blind Alleys On The Information Superhighway
 



During World War II, soldiers stuck on troopships or remote bases would often start rumors, just for the sake of seeing how fast a tall tale would get back to them. All patriotic Americans appreciate what those GIs did to preserve freedom, but we can only imagine what the rumor mill would have been like if the Internet had existed in those days.

The Internet is a wonderful tool for gun owners. You can go online and order hundreds of thousands of gun parts and accessories, look up gun manufacturers’ catalogs, and download reloading data and ballistics tables from your favorite bullet or powder makers. The same goes for range information, hunting tips, firearm history and everything else you can imagine in the world of guns.

In the legislative world, it’s hard to imagine how we got along before the Internet. Just 15 years ago, lobbyists had to send messengers to Capitol Hill to pick up the latest bills; now, I can look at them on my phone while I’m stuck in an airport.

Most important is that we can communicate faster with NRA members and other gun owners than ever before. Fifteen years ago, we could only alert our members to call their lawmakers by sending slow and expensive letters and postcards, or by working the phones, which was just as expensive and less reliable. Now, you can go online to www.nraila.org and sign up for e-mail alerts that will bring you the latest news, as it happens.

But there’s a price to pay for all this. Part of that price is that misinformation travels just as fast as the truth. We see this every day at NRA-ILA, where our staff answers hundreds of phone calls, letters and especially e-mails. Many are from people trying to get the scoop on the latest wild story they’ve heard.

In the last few weeks, for example, NRA has received hundreds of e-mails warning us about “S.B. 2099,” a bill that would supposedly require you to report all your guns on your income tax return every April 15.

Like many rumors, there’s only a small grain of truth in this one. It turns out someone’s recycling an old alert that wasn’t even accurate when it was new. There actually was a bill called S. 2099 that would have taxed handguns--nine years ago. It was introduced by anti-gun Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., and it would have included handguns under the National Firearms Act’s tax and registration scheme. This has nothing to do with anyone’s Form 1040, of course.

Fortunately, S. 2099 disappeared without any action by the Senate, back when Bill Clinton was still in the White House. We reported about it back then in our Grassroots Alert, just as we report about new anti-gun bills every week. But today, this old news is just a distraction from real threats.

Other stories cross the line from rumor to hoax. One claimed that an “executive order” would ban gun ownership by people over 60. (The “news story” even quoted a nonexistent law professor claiming the idea would be constitutional.) Another claimed that Smith & Wesson would be seized in a government bailout scheme. (Thanks to the post-election surge of gun shopping, Smith & Wesson and other gun manufacturers are doing just fine.)

It turns out that what these two stories have in common is their source. They appeared online, on a blog where they were labeled as “satire.” Unfortunately, a lot of people didn’t read the fine print.

I could go on with more examples, such as the claim that February’s economic stimulus bill was full of anti-gun provisions. (For the record, it wasn’t.) But I’ll close with one that’s near and dear to all shooters: the ammunition shortage.

We all know that ammunition’s been getting more expensive, and lately some calibers can be hard to find at any price. Naturally, according to the Internet buzz, there must be a conspiracy.

As this particular conspiracy theory goes, the government has told ammunition companies that they won’t get government contracts unless they restrict sales to private citizens. That’s similar to a concept once pushed by Bill Clinton’s housing secretary, Andrew Cuomo, who thought the federal government should buy guns only from manufacturers who agree to a “code of conduct” dreamed up by anti-gun groups.

Fortunately, this time fiction is stranger than truth. Ammunition is scarce because--surprise!--people like you and me are buying a lot of it. Far from cutting back, manufacturers are running three shifts a day to keep up with the demand.

Eventually, things may get back to normal. But in the meantime, the only place busier than the ammo factories is--you guessed it--the rumor mill.



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possumal

Bop, I know there was a SB-2099 nine years ago, but the hoax email was designed to make you think it was a current bill.
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KySongDog

Bill or no bill, I still think 'ol Teddy has the right idea!     :yoyo:

Bopeye

Quote from: possumal on August 24, 2009, 01:56:38 PM
Bop, I know there was a SB-2099 nine years ago, but the hoax email was designed to make you think it was a current bill.

If you know there was a SB-2009, then why did you just say this?  Makes no sense if you already knew it. Just trying to defend your guy in the Ivory Crib I reckon.  :wink:

Quote from: possumal on August 24, 2009, 12:14:46 PM
Problem is there is no SB-2099.


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possumal

Perhaps I should have said there is no current SB-2099.  The point was that the creator of the hoax emails attached Ted Nugent's video, which was for real.  Your comment about "My guy in the ivory crib" is way off base.  If you think what these creators of the hoax emails are doing what is right, that is your business.
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Bopeye

You know it ain't off base.

My whole point was you hijacked a legitimate thread on Ted Nugent that said nothing about any "hoax". 

You completely took away from the spirit of the thread. Nugent said there should be no restrictions whatsoever. If a man wants to own a bazooka then 2nd Amendment covers that. Do you feel that same way?  :shrug:
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possumal

Bopeye, I am not going to get into an argument with you about something where I know you are off base.  In fact, I am not going to argue with you at all.  I agreed with Ted Nugent said, and did not mean to hijack anything.  Sorry to anybody who thinks I did.
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Frogman

Ted's going to be in WV along with Sean Hanity Labor Day weekend!!  Free!!!

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Jim
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HaMeR

SB-2099 is still there. It remains current with this administration. As does any other bill that has been written or presented. It may not currently be on their list of things to do right now but rest assured it is still setting there just waiting for it's time to re-surface. And when it does it will have addendums that give it even more teeth. There can be no relaxing on this bill. Ever.
Glen

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Bopeye

Quote from: possumal on August 24, 2009, 04:39:40 PM
Bopeye, I am not going to get into an argument with you about something where I know you are off base.  In fact, I am not going to argue with you at all.  I agreed with Ted Nugent said, and did not mean to hijack anything.  Sorry to anybody who thinks I did.

We're you just feeling the need to get the last word, because I'll shut up if you have to have the last word. Otherwise I got one more thing I want to say.  :sneer:
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