Rubber Roofs

HaMeR · April 22, 2011, 04:00:47 AM

Yeah sometimes I don't splain things very well.

HaMeR · April 29, 2011, 08:15:35 PM

I have a small job to do tomorrow with the Flintstone product. Gotta make some money somehow right??

Should take a whole 90 minutes for me & my Buddy & we're gonna drop a bill & a 1/2 on the guy for it.

FinsnFur · April 29, 2011, 09:25:56 PM

I gotta wait for ample time to do....ample, you like that?....to do mine. It wont quit raining for 24 hours straight.

HaMeR · April 29, 2011, 09:33:27 PM

@ ample!! Goodun!!

I usually need plenty of time myself.

HaMeR · April 30, 2011, 06:39:44 PM

CCP · April 30, 2011, 06:56:00 PM

QuoteGotta make some money somehow right??

Glenn you need to come down this way LOTS of roofs to repair or replace right now.

QuoteShould take a whole 90 minutes for me & my Buddy & we're gonna drop a bill & a 1/2 on the guy for it.

2 roofers 2 hrs a Buck and a 1/2 he got a steal!! That would run 2 and 1/2 here..

HaMeR · April 30, 2011, 07:21:13 PM

Yes there is a lot of work down there. I wouldn't mind having some of it but I know how bad the local workers need that money right now to get there lives back together or to help their Families. I couldn't barge in on them like that. I wouldn't feel right knowing I have a little bit of work here plus my unemployment & they need that money worse. Up here we have storm chasers from all over the place giving us locals a bad name & taking our work. I know how it feels to need & I dodn't like it.

And yes he did get a good deal. On the other hand he also has 2 more small jobs for us to do.

FinsnFur · April 30, 2011, 10:48:53 PM

That looks about what I'd expect it to look like

Nice work Boys.

HaMeR · May 01, 2011, 07:05:27 AM

Yeah that stuff is nice to work with. We were lucky yesterdat it was in the low 60's & breezy. It kept that stuff from sticking immediately. It can be hard to tuck that stuff up under the shingles at the top. We had heavy rains around 2:30 this AM & haven't gotten a phone call so that's good.

And Thanks. Jarrod is a good worker & purdy smart in a common sense way. I always get him to help when I need it.

CCP · May 01, 2011, 12:05:58 PM

That is a nice looking job Glenn and a piss poor job the original worker did. That thing had to have leaked from day one? I am surprised there is no wood damage under that?

We have been lucky in this area that construction has been busier here than most places around the U.S. This will put even more work in our area. It has torn a lot of business and factories down. I work as a Commercial plumber but we do have a crew that does some residential plumbing and they my be busy also on the rebuilding.

Most rubber roofs I work around and roll roofing projects are 15,000 square feet and up in most cases, I deal with them a lot on roof drain systems and gas lines to RTU's.

Here is the last roll roofing job I was on.

Starting from the top

Cutting in the roof drain openings

Long way down 36 feet

Moving to the next set of drains to install

Installed pipe to roof drains upper deck 36'

Installed roof drains lower deck 19'

Roofers laying down insulation then insulating board then tar then roll roofing.

Then sealing off my roof drains

Job complete and gas piping installed on new roof.

I don't have a picture of the roof but here is one of me 4 years ago when I was installed some roof drains on the roof of a 12 story building. they used roll roofing on these.

12 story building.

Ledges that the roof was replaced on and i was standing on to install new drains.

Self portrait of myself while working up there.

I know it was the WRONG thing to do but I took my hard hat and safety harness/lines off to take the picture.

Highest roof system I have worked on is 20 stories and that is a HELL of a long way up for a guy that's scared of heights.

HaMeR · May 01, 2011, 07:58:51 PM

Thanks Richard. The original work was done by the home owner. He did roll out ice & water shield as an underlayment & that was the only thing that saved him. The only wet wood was at the very bottom by the gutter. The ice guard let go from the drip edge,, no primer on the drip edge,, & the drip edge actually stuck out about 3/8" past the shingles & the water would run back over the drip edge & come down thru the soffit. And there was an outlet box in the soffit.

I've been on a couple 3 story flat roofs here. One steel mill & one steel handling building. The highest I've been up was 5 stories on a shingle roof that pitched up another 2 stories to the peak. I guess I've been up 7 stories total. 20 is a helluva long ways up there. Last summer when we went to Canada for a week a Friend of ours tried to get me a crane ride on a skyscraper crane. It was 27 stories to the roof top & another 12 to the crane seat. He told me if he could get me a ride that he wasn't gonna let me back out. I told him if he got me a ride on it I would call him from up there & he could talk to the operator.

It didn't pan out but I know he tried.

Those drains & drain pipes look well installed. I like the finished look of the plumbing systems. It shows the workers care about what they do. And that rolled rubber looks like the kind they put down with a propane torch. If so I've had the pleasure & honor of burning off several sets of shoelaces plus arm & leg hair on that stuff.

I'm trying to get on with a flat roof company right now too. I wouldn't mind doing that job at all.

FinsnFur · May 01, 2011, 09:03:35 PM

Quote from: CCP on May 01, 2011, 12:05:58 PM

Self portrait of myself while working up there.

I know it was the WRONG thing to do but I took my hard hat and safety harness/lines off to take the picture.

He wanted to make sure they had a good picture for the family to identify his body with when or if he fell of that

FinsnFur · May 26, 2011, 10:01:04 PM

Revisiting this.........Since I wont have any kids this weekend and I'm caught up more or less on my client sites, and everyone else will be getting drunk and tearing up my river

I MIGHT try to tackle this job.

HaMeR, I'm being told the Flintastic is a 3 ply system

base, middle sheet, and cap. Was I just not picking up on this before or am I missing something?
Plus from what I've read, it's for pitches greater then 2/12
I'm doubting this job of mine has a pitch much more then .75/12

HaMeR · May 27, 2011, 04:54:30 AM

I've not heard of it being a 3 ply system around here. Our Winters aren't nearly as severe as yours tho & I know that dictates changes in building materials. With the sticky back,, like ice guard,, I would think a base layer 1st would not allow the product to stick to the deck. Unless that base layer is ice guard.

I aint afraid to admit ya got me on this one!!

FinsnFur · May 27, 2011, 05:26:30 AM

Do me a favor and point me to the exact product on the net, maybe I'm looking at something different.
When I look at Flintastic's site, I see, a nailbase, a plybase, a midply, and a cap sheet. All self adhering.

HaMeR · May 27, 2011, 06:08:36 PM

Will do!!

HaMeR · May 27, 2011, 06:26:55 PM

That is the same stuff we use. We sweep the deck squeaky clean, prime the drip edge, allow it to dry then roll the product out right on top of the wood. Actually we did it that way again this afternoon on a small roof of maybe 50 sq/ft with a very low pitch. It may have qualified as a 1/12 pitch. I know it wasn't dead flat but it sure wanted to be. The Certainteed video has also not been updated. You no longer need to tar the end seams. Just roll em out good.

FinsnFur · May 28, 2011, 01:25:12 AM

Are you sure you dont work for Certainteed?

HaMeR · May 28, 2011, 06:06:28 AM

The guy I work for does have a very good relationship with them.

We've been asked twice in the 20 years I've worked there for our opinions on their products.

The Certainteed Rep has also taken us to breakfast 4 or 5 times as well.

Does that mean anything??

I just know I like this stuff & we've had no failures with it.

CCP · June 02, 2011, 08:08:45 PM

Today we were working on a small job where they were using the rubber roofng and I took some pictures while up there installing my gas and venting sleeves.

I know your project is on a lot larger scale but hope this small 40,000 + square foot job helps.

I will get some more pictures of how they finish out the parapet tomorrow.

Insulation before rubber

Rolling it out

Screwing down the seams

Sealing the seams

Sorry these were took with my camera phone somebody decided to STEAL my camera Friday out of my truck. it was HOT as hell up there with a temp of 108 on the roof and 106 inside the building. Fortunately it was only 98 outside in the shade.

Will get finished pictures tomorrow this is a 2 day job for these guys.