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Title: 2017 XM556 Microgun
Post by: FinsnFur on February 11, 2017, 10:27:20 AM
https://youtu.be/WmSYePNs_IM
Title: Re: 2017 XM556 Microgun
Post by: Okanagan on February 11, 2017, 11:21:15 AM
Impressive! Thanks for posting that link. 

I'll bet that this Microgun is a step on the way to something.  I'd love to know what DARPA is playing with along this line.

A major problem for any non-mounted use is ability to carry enough ammo, and if mounted on a vehicle, the size reduction isn't as critical (except on drones... hmm).  They need to develop a new, much smaller round to use in mini-guns. Something like a .20 in a bottlenecked center fire cartridge about the total size of a .22 RF magnum would allow a man to carry two or three times the number of .223 rounds for the same weight and bulk.  Or maybe the .17 HMR would work?

With such a small round, recoil might reduce enough to hold pretty close to aim when shoulder mounted.  An engineer friend of mine worked with Stoner way back and got into a deal where several developers tested whether they could consistently hold aim with an M-16 and some other weapons on full auto.  Their conclusion was no, but he said that it sure was fun.

I read a sci-fi story once about combat troops who carried electro-magnetic needle guns.  Can't remember details but I think the fantasy was that each man carried 50,000 rounds in ten mags of 5000 rounds each.  Jack O'Connor wrote something about a future when rifles would fire steel needles at 50,000 fps. 

Title: Re: 2017 XM556 Microgun
Post by: Hawks Feather on February 11, 2017, 12:41:40 PM
Quote from: Okanagan on February 11, 2017, 11:21:15 AM
Impressive! Thanks for posting that link. 

I'll bet that this Microgun is a step on the way to something.  I'd love to know what DARPA is playing with along this line.

A major problem for any non-mounted use is ability to carry enough ammo, and if mounted on a vehicle, the size reduction isn't as critical (except on drones... hmm).  They need to develop a new, much smaller round to use in mini-guns. Something like a .20 in a bottlenecked center fire cartridge about the total size of a .22 RF magnum would allow a man to carry two or three times the number of .223 rounds for the same weight and bulk.  Or maybe the .17 HMR would work?

With such a small round, recoil might reduce enough to hold pretty close to aim when shoulder mounted.  An engineer friend of mine worked with Stoner way back and got into a deal where several developers tested whether they could consistently hold aim with an M-16 and some other weapons on full auto.  Their conclusion was no, but he said that it sure was fun.

I read a sci-fi story once about combat troops who carried electro-magnetic needle guns.  Can't remember details but I think the fantasy was that each man carried 50,000 rounds in ten mags of 5000 rounds each.  Jack O'Connor wrote something about a future when rifles would fire steel needles at 50,000 fps.

Yea, all that is true, but the deal breaker is there isn't a scope mounted on it.    :shock2:     :shock2:     :shock2:

Jerry
Title: Re: 2017 XM556 Microgun
Post by: slagmaker on February 11, 2017, 02:40:33 PM
Hey wait a minute!! I want to see the thing in action. Not just some dealer/developer talking about it. PUT YO MONEY WHERE YO MOUTH IS
Title: Re: 2017 XM556 Microgun
Post by: kyfuzzyface on February 11, 2017, 09:45:03 PM
Quote from: slagmaker on February 11, 2017, 02:40:33 PM
Hey wait a minute!! I want to see the thing in action. Not just some dealer/developer talking about it. PUT YO MONEY WHERE YO MOUTH IS
Me too Slag
Title: Re: 2017 XM556 Microgun
Post by: FinsnFur on February 13, 2017, 05:28:26 AM
Should we order one to carry on the FNF Yacht? We can all test fire it out at sea :innocentwhistle:
Title: Re: 2017 XM556 Microgun
Post by: HaMeR on February 13, 2017, 05:39:54 AM
Sure thing Jim!! I mean somebody here has to assume that responsibility for the good of the FnF community right??  :eyebrow: :eyebrow:

Then there's the liability issues of a Mod posting this link for the public to read.  :readthis: after   :readthis:  after  :readthis: of legal mumbo jumbo.  :alscalls: :alscalls:
Title: Re: 2017 XM556 Microgun
Post by: riverboss on February 13, 2017, 06:17:21 AM
We need to have the FNF yacht moved to lake Barkley!

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Title: Re: 2017 XM556 Microgun
Post by: Hawks Feather on February 13, 2017, 08:22:36 AM
It sure is great to have some sound legal advice like Glen offers.  What would we do without him?

I don't know much about Lake Barkley, but if it can't handle a 375 foot boat we will need to look for a larger lake.

See you on the water.

Jerry
Title: Re: 2017 XM556 Microgun
Post by: FinsnFur on February 15, 2017, 10:10:34 PM
 :thumb2:
Title: Re: 2017 XM556 Microgun
Post by: nastygunz on February 15, 2017, 10:48:27 PM
 The guy in the video used to be on the red jacket firearms TV show. He was a door gunner.

https://youtu.be/WoHQ9Bhs30g
Title: Re: 2017 XM556 Microgun
Post by: Hawks Feather on February 16, 2017, 08:04:53 AM
Thanks for posting that video.

Jerry
Title: Re: 2017 XM556 Microgun
Post by: Okanagan on February 16, 2017, 10:11:26 AM
Yes, thank you for posting it. 
Title: Re: 2017 XM556 Microgun
Post by: slagmaker on February 16, 2017, 10:12:48 AM
Great video.

I know a few veterans with PTSD. Not a good thing. There are simply not enough programs out there to help these men and women that need the help.
Title: Re: 2017 XM556 Microgun
Post by: nastygunz on February 16, 2017, 12:04:01 PM
 I spent a lot of time in helos in the service and every single time I was on one I thought I was going to die! Not too fond of flying in airplanes either  :huh: