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Title: OH-OH !
Post by: nastygunz on November 23, 2008, 05:11:43 PM
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Loc: USA   The Fury uses FHSS, why?
      #52982145 - 11/20/08 10:33 PM   Edit     Reply     Quote     Quick Reply   



I'm sorry if I am bursting anyone's bubble here, but I'm baffled why anyone would put a 900MHz FHSS transceiver in a game call. I'm referring to the new Fury. First, you have to crank the output power up 6dB (that's 4x the power) to get the same range as the 418MHz transmitters just due to the loss of going to twice the frequency.

Next, if you guys plan to use these things within 20 miles of oil and gas fields (or any utility), you are probably going to get jammed. All of the rigs use excessively high gain 900MHz FHSS radios to pump data back to their base stations, and believe me--the spectrum is crowded out there with these data radios and their repeaters. Ironically, 900MHz is actually the most crowded spectrum in remote locations because of this. Whereas, 418MHz is ideal for a remote control, because it is narrow band, the lower frequency automatically doubles the distance (with the same power), the band is super quiet, and it is what the 418MHz band was intended for--remote controls. Plus, 400MHz *bends* twice as much around hills and trees.

Let me just say this one last thing, and I will get off my soap box. It only takes one week to get approval through the FCC for FHSS radios, once your independent lab has tested and show that you pass. I would guess that FoxPro is fighting the power they need to output, because they now have to abide by the requirements stating the transmitter has to be a certain distance from the human body. I sure hope they SAR test it. In short, FHSS is designed for high data transfer, and it's a technique (bandaid) used in the ISM 900MHz band to avoid getting jammed--because it is crowded! Or, it could be they are not passing FCC because they aren't any good at designing transmitters that can pass the harmonic requirements. At any rate, I wish everybody would quite blaming the FCC for holding up the Fury.

The greater distance argument doesn't hold much water with me. The only advantage, if there is one, is that the higher frequency will help some with the Fresnel zone, but that's a stretch. The distance they will gain over 418MHz will have to come at the expense higher transmit power (i.e. more battery power). Besides, the 418MHz callers out there
get plenty of distance at much much lower output power. 100-200 yards with a 418MHz is enough for me. What a ridiculous solution.

Josh

P.S. Bottom line, my guess is that FoxPro is late because they didn't do their homework when they designed the call, and now they are surprised in the qualification lab, and have a load of delivery requirements. All of this to get a link from the receiver back to the remote. Thanks, but I'll just use my ears. Let's all lay off the FCC, it's not their fault. 

Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: CCP on November 23, 2008, 07:04:38 PM
 
Quotewith increased competition coming from overseas, we have to take advantage of our strength, and that is our engineering capabilities. The companies that get their products made overseas have a huge labor advantage over us. We are paying American people American wages, and paying benefits on top.

Seems like they need to hire this guy in the engineering dept. + I always heard they only assembled them here in the U.S. the components come from over seas like most electronic gadgets of today.

Of course as usual the faxpro guys were there to take a hunk out of him. I don't understand how people can be so fanatical about a call making company. I like the Minaska game calls better than any I have tried. You don't see me jumping in and defending the Borlands when they are not returning calls or not giving answers when there ask to over there.

I can say I have NEVER seen Faxpro not answer something like this quickly and put out the fire. I seen the unit at the Kansas show and if I remember right it was going to be out as soon as the FCC were done. That fire aint been  burning in California that long.

What ever the reason is Faxpro and  Minaska both have been letting the ball roll around to long. I wish one of them would pick it up and play ball with us.
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: bigben on November 25, 2008, 10:10:36 AM
turns out josht was bill martz. 

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=52982145&page=0&fpart=5&vc=1
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: KySongDog on November 25, 2008, 11:11:31 AM
This tech stuff is WAY over my head.   But I know enough to know these e-caller wars are all about money and convincing customers MY e-caller is better that THEIR e-caller.  They all have more features than I'll ever use.  Hail, I can barely make a call on my cell phone.  :eyebrownod:

:corn:

Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: possumal on November 25, 2008, 03:23:51 PM
For any of you who are interested, Mike Dillon has made a post over at PM updating the situation on the Fury.  All FCC paperwork is now received, and production will return to normal.  I look forward to receiving and field testing the new Fury, and I know the people who have been patient will be glad they did. 
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: bigben on November 25, 2008, 03:44:05 PM
last night as I was cruising around on the internet I got to thinking.  why does foxpro release their calls right at the start of the season?  I imagine it helps sell a bunch right now.  compared to releasing it in the spring or even the summer.  the last couple calls they have released came out and was supposed to ship at the end of october early november.  first it was  the fx3 which actually came out in early september but their was a waiting line a mile long.  the fx5 came out the following year and was around the same time late september.  the scorpion I believe came out in october last year and now this year we have the fury.  I could not believe my ears this summer when mike said at our expo that the next call coming out would out do the fx-5.  it sure looks like they have outdone the fx-5 but it would be nice if they took the next year off and come out with some better sounds.  a buddy of mine got a foxpro all in one because he did not want to wait for the fury and he was dissapointed in the coyote sounds.  I have 100 and something sounds on my call and I can honestly say only 25 or so are worth a darn to me.  the rest seem crackly and not very clear.  I have pulled distress series off my video camara while hunting at night and those sounds play clear.  so it leads me to believe that the sounds can be better.  I do know that there have been more sounds released that sound good on the computer in the short clip they give you to listen too.  I have not really got any new ones from foxpro since I got my fx-3 upgraded to my fx-5
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: HaMeR on November 25, 2008, 08:36:14 PM
Damn glad I got banned from that place.  :readthis:


TWICE!!  :yoyo:
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: browning204 on November 25, 2008, 10:28:56 PM
Quote from: bigben on November 25, 2008, 10:10:36 AM
turns out josht was bill martz. 

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=52982145&page=0&fpart=5&vc=1

I doubt very highly that it was Martz who wrote that! Could it be true that fauxpro and PM have pissed off enough people that this could be the work of someone else?

I mean come on people. They are willing to throw punches in a dark room and not know who they swinging at!! Typical PM login. Who ever it was really knows his stuff. I see that the Dillons think it was more than one person, Come on, that is silly. Until I see concrete proof that that IP came from NH and from Bills town, I don't buy it.

Anyways, Bill is not a stupid man. If he can fund all this hi tech recording crap, travel around the world and get all these animals to make sounds for his callers, don't you think that he just might be able to use a secret IP or router or whatever the computer geeks do? ALL these fauxpro humpers (some of you are part of this thread) need to take off your tin foil hats, put down your cool aid and put away that sticky picture ad. of the fauxpro pro product line and really start thinking for your selves. Just because one pillow humping Mod. at PM says it was Martz, everyone is now convinced. Sad!

You would think the Bill Martz real name is Nero Ceasar!   
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: RShaw on November 25, 2008, 11:06:14 PM
possumal I have a question.  You said you were waiting on your new Fury to field test it. Right? In other words, you don't get one until the general public does. I always thought the field staff were the ones to test a caller and work out the bugs before the general public could buy it. If you don't get one before the rest of us, then just exactly what does a field staffer do for fox pro do that anyone else who buys one couldnt do? Maybe it is the same deal on other field staff for other ecallers, I dont know. Just asking.

Randy
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: browning204 on November 25, 2008, 11:32:49 PM
They do nothing, they just help dog pile on other caller users, and help spread the lies  that the higher ups put out!

Otherwise it is a way to make the boot lickers feel as if all their time with their heads up someone elses ass paid off.

And, I will bet dollars to donuts that there are Fury's out there, being used with out the FCC stickers on them! Maybe not Possum but I would be  pretty certain that there are some in Texas and a couple in Cali.

Mark my words, someone, one of the All might field staffers will post pics of the dozens of critters that they shot by using the Fury long before the "official" release date.
And when someone bright enough catches on and starts asking questions, PM and the goons will shut the thread down.
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: snowcamoman on November 26, 2008, 01:30:47 AM
browning204,
I'd bet my money that FoxPro wouldn't risk putting out a product like that without following the rules. You really don't know what you're talking about anyways and never really have anything decent to add to a post besides an attack. Honestly, when are you going to start thinking for yourself? Take the time to put together some logical ideas backed with proof and then come to the tables with it, as opposed to just spouting off at the mouth about what you think is going on. I'm not drinking the Kook aid for anybody, and I won't because I'll buy them all or get others to get them for me if needed. I'd put money on it that no FoxPro field staffer is going to put out a picture of dead animals that received the product prior to FCC approval. If there are some in Texas and Cali, get the information for me and let me know as I'd like to hear about it. If you can't prove it, then just shut up and add something useful to the post rather than just babbling on how you hate FoxPro (we've all heard your broken record).  I have almost all of them (Except the new KanatiTek, Minaska clone model) and they'll all flat out call critters. Now Martz on the other hand has his fair share of issues and can call me anytime he wants to talk about them. He knows where I stand on his tactics and methods of getting (and losing)  customers. He even threatened to come "visit" me while he was here in Alaska, but I never got the privilege.  I wonder what happened to all of WT's field staffers?  It does seem that at least one of them might still be on staff, or part owner:
http://www.portfolio.com/resources/company-profiles/Wildlife-Technologies-764547

I know you're stuck on the WT, which is a good unit, but if Martz had a clue about your backstabbing of him, he'd probably blacklist you. Maybe he will call me just to do his homework on his most loyal customer...   :nofgr:    Don't worry, I'll have a new WT by the way, I'm just having somebody else buy it for me. Please make sure that you take this thread and run with it over at the Monster, Skeletor. You'll probably need some hugs from the gang and some words of wisdom from the coach to  help you respond. It's funny that the guy who raked you through the coals years ago is now your buddy. Or maybe you're just a mouthpiece.  You can go ahead with some lame jab about where I live too if you want, I gaurantee it's a great place to live and keeps me happy while I'm saving (imagine that) to build a new house. If you want to continue to take cheap shots at something you know nothing about, keep going, I love reading your nonsense.  Take your time, I have all the time in the world. Tell GZ, Skoal38, whoever I said Hi.
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: KySongDog on November 26, 2008, 03:36:14 AM
Somebody pass the salt...............  :corn:
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: weedwalker on November 26, 2008, 03:59:39 AM
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k311/weedwalker/watchdrama8jm.gif)       (http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k311/weedwalker/circledeadhorse.gif)    Hey Semp, there's beer in the fridge. :biggrin:
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: alscalls on November 26, 2008, 05:11:38 AM
Quote from: weedwalker on November 26, 2008, 03:59:39 AM
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k311/weedwalker/watchdrama8jm.gif)       (http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k311/weedwalker/circledeadhorse.gif)    Hey Semp, there's beer in the fridge. :biggrin:

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:We gotta have that dead horse.........Thats funny right there......... :corn:
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: possumal on November 26, 2008, 07:45:35 AM
RShaw:  Sometimes the field staff receives items to field test prior to the release to the general public. The Scorpion is a good example. There were no pending issues with the FCC when the field staffers received their prototypes to test.  It is a different deal with the new Fury as the timing of production and getting the required FCC certification made it impossible to get them out to the field staff for prior testing.

Browning204-You have never seen me bash Minaska on this forum and you never will.  As far as your view of what the field staff does for Foxpro, it is not very clear and it sure isn't accurate.  The customers will have their contact with Foxpro and so will the field staff.  If the field staff comes up with suggestions that make sense, Foxpro will take them into consideration.  Same goes for valid suggestions from customers.  Foxpro always strives to do what is right for the customer both before and after the sale. Any pictures you see posted by any of the field staff of critters called in with the Fury will all be legitimate.

CCP-Foxpro would never hire the unmentionable one to work in their engineering department. You have to be a straight shooter to work in there, and he obviously is not. 

Nobody who posts on this forum should question me favoring Foxpro ecallers. I was using them long before being named to their field staff and singing their praises.

Good hunting to all of ya.
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: RShaw on November 26, 2008, 07:58:07 AM
Possumal...Thanks for clearing that up. It was a serious question and not intended to start anything. I could care less what ecaller a person uses.

For those who care...It seems that JoshT might not have been Bill Martz afterall.

Randy



Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: Rich on November 26, 2008, 08:02:55 AM
browning204,
Please don't lump all  FoxPro owners into one class. You are a trouble maker, and the world champion shit slinger. Maybe Jim Champion could award you with the World Champion  WCSS belt.
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: nastygunz on November 26, 2008, 08:28:59 AM
In response to foxpro sounds.... i own an fx3.....aside from trying to figure out the battery charging situation in the beginning it has worked fine for me.....i do agree that the sounds are not very good in many cases...ive had some with static and some u could hear background noise....and i told the dillons this....i had to kind of pick and choose what sounds were clear...some day id like to hear a minaska and wt for comparison...i heard the new western rivers is the one to beat though !
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: browning204 on November 26, 2008, 08:53:50 AM
Peter, show me where I ever back stabbed Martz. Other than saying that he is rough around the edges ( thats true) I think I have defended him plenty. If someone is cool to me then I am cool to them, Martz has always been cool to me.

And as far as your living situation, I believe someone else commented about that, I just commented how that was funny. I can go look to be exact.

Jim Champion, are you gonna have a  trophy made for me? If Rich says you should, then you should.
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: browning204 on November 26, 2008, 09:01:04 AM
Peter, I went backed and checked.
The thread called "foxpro remote needs scrutiny"   The first page was a dedication to trash you I guess, the last post on the page talks about your living arrangements.

There are 2 more pages and not one single mention of it at all by anyone. So I don't know what your talking about! Sorry man.

I am waiting for you evidence of where I trash Martz........
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: snowcamoman on November 26, 2008, 09:47:12 AM
Mike (browning),
Trust me, I've been watching how things go down on many forums and I've seen your comments and jabs at me. Again, I'm not paid by any of the e-call manufacturers nor do I advertise for any of them in any way, other than by answering questions for people relating to my experiences with them. For your information, I collect photos of WT's so when people send them to me, I can fix them and refer to photos for certain things. WT has had a knack for multiple and multiple versions of a single caller. I need to know sometimes what jumper wires were used and where they go or if another component was used, so I can install the right items. Trust, me Mike, you've stabbed Martz in a way that drives him crazier than almost anything. I won't drag it out onto a forum and post it for all to see, but just trust me. You'd be black listed in a heartbeat if he knew. I'll drop it a that unless you want to continue down this path. All I can say is you really need to start getting some good posts with backed up information, rather than running off about why FoxPro and PM are so horrible.
  I wonder where Skoal38 has been on this post as well, we haven't heard much from the omnipotent one lately? He's probably around lurking, waiting for some gun and run type post that he likes so much. He never did respond to some other post where he wanted to call me out on killing things....very strange... :sneer:
  Again, this all comes down to one company and everybody being mad about something that hasn't even hit the market yet. Maybe JoshT or whoever that guy was will come on this site and answer my questions concerning callers. I'm finally glad that I'll have a caller that I can put 200 WT sounds, the entire JS library and almost every other sound on.
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: browning204 on November 26, 2008, 10:06:31 AM
Peter, trust me when i say this, I have no idea who skoal38 or JoshT are, honestly I will put my kids on that!

Secondly, I am not the only one who thinks that you are in bed with foxpro. You have asked more than one person for pics of the Wt's brains and you have asked people to set you up with a 2030. Gotta admit it all looks weird.

Funny how you obtained pics of the WT's circuits and memory card, then soon after on PM you wrote on how the WT can not do what it claims to do, due to the fact that the memory card isn't whatever you thought it should be.

Again, I don't recall making fun of your living set-up. And I thank you for wanting to keep the Martz thing off the board, I stand by what I said and do not recall ever stabbing or saying anything about Martz other than "once you get past the rough exterior, he is a nice smart guy" I have said it on the phone to Champion, CCP, Clevenger, Nastygunz and countless others. I have said it numerous times to THO in person. They can vouch for this. But now you have my interest peaked Peter, please E-mail me and tell me or show me what I have done to wrong Martz in any way. Do you still have my address? Or is this a way to make Martz THINK that I do wrong him so he black lists me?

If you need my addy again I will give it to you.
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: browning204 on November 26, 2008, 10:28:38 AM
Quote from: RShaw on November 26, 2008, 07:58:07 AM


For those who care...It seems that JoshT might not have been Bill Martz afterall.

Randy





Please enlighten us with your finding. I love when I am right (doesn't happen much) and if I am wrong, I will admit it.
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: Rich on November 26, 2008, 10:43:43 AM
I don't think that Josh T is Bill Martz. Too many posts without long speeches about clock building, and nothing about how small everyone's brain is except his own. I'm 90 percent certain that Josh T used Bill's computer to type his posts though.  :eyebrownod:
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: browning204 on November 26, 2008, 10:55:44 AM
Quote from: Rich on November 26, 2008, 10:43:43 AM
I I'm 90 percent certain that Josh T used Bill's computer to type his posts though.  :eyebrownod:

I still doubt that. You really think that Bill would let someone use his computer for that? Please since your so "in the know" tell us why and how you think you know that. Obviously you are being fed info from PM.

And if it turns out that it wasn't Martz or his computer, are you or Peter or anyone gonna man up and make a post on PM telling the fact that Martz was wrongly accused? I mean everyone got worked into a "Fury" (pun intended) about how JoshT post could possibly take business away from foxpro. Same applies to WT. The little witch hunt could possibly hurt WT if in fact it wasn't Martz or his computer. I don't really expect anyone to do that, But after all that shit slinging, it would be the right thing to due. Plus I guess my trophy would be on the line at that point, wouldn't it Rich?
So who is gonna be when this breaks? Who will be the MAN. 6 pages of dog pile, someone has to have some hair around his Nuts and make a post of how everyone was wrong (if they are) I think it should be a Mod or another "elite" person, since they let the bashing go on.
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: Rich on November 26, 2008, 11:59:41 AM
"I still doubt that. You really think that Bill would let someone use his computer for that? Please since your so "in the know" tell us why and how you think you know that. Obviously you are being fed info from PM."
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No Mr. WCSS, I am not being fed information from P.M.  I read a post this morning from Mr. W.T. himself. He said he didn't post that Josh T stuff. Since P.M. tracks I.P. addresses, they more than likely know exactly where the posts came from. If  it wasn't actually Mr. Bill, you can bet that it was someone using a Martz computer. Are you following me? Your title isn't on the line in this match sir, you are still the champ.  :innocentwhistle:
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: browning204 on November 26, 2008, 12:50:37 PM
and please tell me where did you read the post from mr. WT himself?
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: browning204 on November 26, 2008, 12:54:27 PM
scratch that, I found it on Hunt masters.
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: browning204 on November 26, 2008, 01:16:31 PM
Quote from: possumal on November 26, 2008, 07:45:35 AM
The Scorpion is a good example. There were no pending issues with the FCC when the field staffers received their prototypes to test.  It is a different deal with the new Fury as the timing of production and getting the required FCC certification made it impossible to get them out to the field staff for prior testing.



AL, either you are a liar or just plain stupid. If you are so in tune with what Foxpro does, then why have there already been comments about the same speakers and same sounds used in the FX callers? Apparently some one has already used it and from what it sounds like, don't really care for it!! The person who used it told someone else and it is written in a thread on another site. SO I guess I was correct, there are some out there without the FCC stickers. THAT IS ILLEGAL!!!!! and if MARTZ was so wrong and bad to do it, then you might wanna add the Dillons to your list of people to talk badly about on the forums!

Do you think you can find the thread or do you need me to point you toward it? Your probably not gonna look because heaven forbid your precious friends are put under a bad light!
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: possumal on November 26, 2008, 01:40:07 PM
Browning204-The quote you presented was a direct explanation to RShaw about a question he posed about the field staff. Anybody that has followed your "Career" on the various forums is well aware of who the liar is and who is stupid.  Rich Cronk put the right title on you. I hope you enjoy your trophy.
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: browning204 on November 26, 2008, 03:21:15 PM
you did not answer my question. How is it that there are already reports on the Fury if none have been released? How is it that people know it uses the same speaker as the FX series.
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: snowcamoman on November 26, 2008, 06:39:16 PM
Mike / Browning204,

Quote
Secondly, I am not the only one who thinks that you are in bed with foxpro. You have asked more than one person for pics of the Wt's brains and you have asked people to set you up with a 2030. Gotta admit it all looks weird.

Funny how you obtained pics of the WT's circuits and memory card, then soon after on PM you wrote on how the WT can not do what it claims to do, due to the fact that the memory card isn't whatever you thought it should be.

First off, check your email that I sent you earlier today. If you changed addresses, let me know and I'll forward it to another one. Secondly, I'm not in bed with any of the caller companies...period.  Now Martz and me have had our differences (Still do), but he makes a good caller. I have asked more than one person for pictures of callers as explained in my other post. I work on, customize, and fix people's WT's because they want something custom on their caller, or they just plain out don't want to deal with Martz. Seems kind of strange that people would send a caller 3000 miles to Alaska, when they could pay less and send it to New Hampshire. That just goes to show you how many of their own customers don't want to deal with them (nothing against Martz's wife, she's always been great to deal with). I was "shopping" around for a 2030 awhile back but have since checked it out and have everything I need from it. I'm sure glad I didn't plop down the money for that unprogrammable thing though.  I explained the memory card thing in an email, if you really want me to get into the details of that one on a forum, just say the word and I'm all over it. I'd probably keep it posted under my questioning of Martz on the Huntmaster's forum thread.
http://www.huntmastersbbs.com/cgi/cgi-ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000304

This one from Martz really kills me though 
QuoteI can't promise that I will be nice, but I will promise as usual that I will only make truthfull statements. Considering that their are some among you people that don't like to hear the truth because it tends to remind them of their lack of life skills.v

The only skill I'm missing is the ability to gobble down his lie about multiple FRS licenses for remotes that he "could" use anytime he wants. I crack up every time I think of the time he told me that.

The other great one was this:
QuoteWildlife callers are not the only product or service we provide.

Isn't that obvious!!!! Especially the service.... :laf:
I wonder if "service" includes threats to come visit me when he's in town?????

Finally, and I'll be done:
QuoteNow that you got facts, how about we just start riling each other up.

Let the riling begin, this is fun. Martz, I really hope this new WT can play 1000 sounds too because I have about 200 of yours ready to go.  :eyebrownod:

Anyways, you know where I stand on this whole thing. If you have any questions just let me know and I'll find an answer. If Martz has any evidence to show he has multiple FRS licenses, show me what you got and I'll graciously apologize for all to see. If not, fess up and say you're full of it. 

Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: Dan Carey on November 26, 2008, 06:50:57 PM
Bill loves to hear people brag about STEALING his sounds, and putting them on junk callers.

Get a life and grow up in the process . A grown man arguing about a friggin caller company, and it's ALWAYS FP humpers.   :laf: What a joke!!!
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: browning204 on November 26, 2008, 07:02:23 PM
Peter, I got your E-mail and read it but forgive me, I have had my 2 kids all day by myself and only got to rake and clean the yard before company gets here tomorrow.

I will read it again and respond as soon as I have more time.
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: snowcamoman on November 26, 2008, 07:28:33 PM
Dan,
If you're referring to me, you're highly mistaken. I have had over 11 WT's including these classic models: The tube model with the speaker built into some kind of ABS tube, a few backpack models with 2 and 3 speakers, 4 programmable units, 2 non-programmable units, and my favorite, the MP3 player. That MP3  model is an absolute beauty with some of the finest dremel work I've seen on an old Diva MP3 player. The nice thing about that MP3 version is that you can ramp up/down the volume rather than being stuck with the 6 presets (10 on the 2030's I believe). There are sounds on some of those old one's that aren't around anymore. I'm talking about an almost full 2 minute Coyote sequence. I've dumped quite a load of cash into those things, so stealing it isn't. I have a load of the old "cards" that the old backpack callers used too, which are kind of fun to tinker around with. They do sound good on the other callers, especially that FoxPro Snow Crow Pro. That thing will mess up your hearing. They also sound good on the Scorpion and Minaska UO. The handy thing is they're all editable. If you're calling me "humper", you're sorely mistaken, I think they'll all flat out call animals...period. I even think that WT makes a good call, because honestly, they DO!!! It's not the caller that so many have an issue with, it's the man running the show. No problems though, there are always ways around those types of things.
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: Dan Carey on November 26, 2008, 07:39:57 PM
You are not unlike a lot of the American public. You want your ass kissed by an accomplished salesman to make you feel good about your purchase. i on the other hand don't give a damn if I like the maker or not. At the end of the day its performance that counts. I will buy a fury as soon as they hit the streets. I like the Dillon boys, but the caller better be what a caller is supposed to be or it will be down the road in a flash, and I will tell anyone that reads my posts what I think about the product, be it good or bad!
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: browning204 on November 26, 2008, 08:09:18 PM
Dan, lets go Halves on a Fury. I want to see what this wicked pissa little caller can do with its magical remote. We will share custody of it! But if it is anything like the other callers from the same maker I have used, you will soon get full custody quickly. I won't even want to see it on holidays.
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: snowcamoman on November 26, 2008, 08:24:31 PM
Dan,
I personally don't care what a salesman says to me, I use my own noggin' to determine what I want. If I wanted my rear to be kissed, why would I be buying the WT's?  I can guarantee you that I'm not going to get any kudos from the "salesman" when I buy a WT.  All I'm after with the WT's are the sounds. You could say that I'm a "collector" of vintage and unusual animal sounds and callers. I use what works too and if it doesn't it gets put on the shelf for a later "project".  Please post your results of the Fury when you get it, especially the remote range and features.
Dan or Mike,
Since this post seems to be about remotes and FCC type things, did you upgrade your 2030 remotes to the newer non-antenna model? If so, why don't you let me know what the FCC ID is on it, I'm curious if it's been re-certified. I don't see an update on FCC's site with a new certification, which is required when you change anything with the antenna. It could just be that FCC's site isn't updated though too. Either way, if you have that information, I'd be glad to hear what it is. I mean, if FoxPro did something like that, you'd have the pitchforks out and be ready to string em' up. Everybody should play by the same rules I would think.  :innocentwhistle:
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: browning204 on November 26, 2008, 08:38:15 PM
I have not up dated my remote, I only learned of it yesterday.
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: Rich on November 26, 2008, 09:15:10 PM
"Dan, lets go Halves on a Fury. I want to see what this wicked pissa little caller can do with its magical remote. We will share custody of it! But if it is anything like the other callers from the same maker I have used, you will soon get full custody quickly. I won't even want to see it on holidays."
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Once the WCSS belt holder tries a new Fury, we will likely see a W.T. being displayed at a garage sale.  :eyebrownod:
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: browning204 on November 26, 2008, 09:44:58 PM
Quote from: Rich on November 26, 2008, 09:15:10 PM
"Dan, lets go Halves on a Fury. I want to see what this wicked pissa little caller can do with its magical remote. We will share custody of it! But if it is anything like the other callers from the same maker I have used, you will soon get full custody quickly. I won't even want to see it on holidays."
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Once the WCSS belt holder tries a new Fury, we will likely see a W.T. being displayed at a garage sale.  :eyebrownod:

This WCSS has hunted with fauxpro's many of times, you won't see my WT for sale at a Garage sale any time soon. My and the G/F did drop some childrens cloths at the good will center, I did run into some Cronk calls on the table there.
:panties:

Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: Rich on November 26, 2008, 11:28:58 PM
Don't worry Champ, I am just having a little bit of fun with ya. When you are the Champ, everyone wants to try ya.
I know the W.T. callers are good, so need for you to get all upset.  :roflmao:








Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: browning204 on November 27, 2008, 05:05:20 AM
I under stand about being at the top, I guess it is the price I gotta pay :wink:

You didn't upset me, People I never even met or any internet site don't have the ability to do that. I don't live and die by the keyboard like some people.

Anyways, have a great Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: vvarmitr on November 27, 2008, 09:02:26 AM
Quote from: Rich on November 26, 2008, 08:02:55 AM
Maybe Jim Champion could award you with the World Champion  WCSS belt.
Ain't no way Jimbo would ever give it up!   :nofgr:  :noway:
:laf:
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: FinsnFur on November 27, 2008, 09:23:39 AM
 :nono:
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: browning204 on November 28, 2008, 08:33:02 AM
I saw this posted on other sites so I decided to address it here as well as HM before people get carried away!

Turboranger posted on PMS about some new stuff coming out by wildlife tech.

Turboranger IS NOT Bill, I know Turbo, spoke with him on the phone and made plans to hunt with him but our schedules never matched.

No need for another witch hunt by the PM Boys!
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: JoshT on December 12, 2008, 04:44:03 PM
Hello....

First, let me say thanks to the mods of this forum for letting me in. I was trying to get back into the PM forum, but they wouldn't let me back without my real name. At this point, although I don't think I have said anything out of line, it seems like they are on a witch hunt, so there is no way I am giving them my info. I sent an email to the webmaster and stated that I am not Bill Martz, and I concluded that their public flame of Mr. Martz was intentional. By shutting off my voice, they had nobody to dispute it, so they ran with the idea as a way to infllict damage to Mr. Martz's business. That is a horrible thing to do.

I have had a chance to review the FauxPro Fluffy design, and will be posting my thoughts soon. After seeing what they used to build their circuits, I stand by my words, "They are no radio company."


JoshT
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: CCP on December 12, 2008, 05:01:21 PM
 JoshT, I enjoyed reading your post over there. I find it amazing how people were so quick to jump on the bashing wagon when someone suggested you were Bill. I haven't seen any proof that you are Bill and your I.P doesn't indicate you are Bill. Goes to show people will believe what they want to believe.

You are free to post your findings and thoughts on e-callers like everyone else does whether people agree or not with your findings. If you want to start another thread so everyone doesn't have to wade all the way through this one to get to your post you are welcome too.
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: 5 SHOTS on December 13, 2008, 06:39:37 AM
JoshT, welcome to the best run board on the net.  :biggrin: You will not find any PMS brand of "witch hunts" over here. :readthis:  :whew:  :biggrin:
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: JoshT on December 13, 2008, 07:00:09 PM
CCP & 5 Shots,

Thanks! I hope I can add some positive value to the board. I will create a new post. I think it is only fair for Mr. Martz to have the record set straight.

JoshT
Title: Re: OH-OH !
Post by: golfertrout on May 26, 2009, 01:38:03 PM
i agree that some sounds on the fx5 are not very good,  I dont need mouth call sounds i can do that, so why would foxpro put these on them?  MONEY   I think they sould only use real coyote vocals not mouth calls