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Title: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on March 14, 2011, 06:29:57 PM
I've set up yet another chat room, that maybe more people can use because it runs off Java instead of Flash.
I know only about three of you even know what that is, but  :laf:

Anyway it currently requires a password. Which hopefully keeps some of the off the street riff raff out.

It's not integrated with the forums, but if it flys...later I can set it up so that everyone registers a username and password to get in.
Hows that going to work?
You register to use the chat, it'll take your username, password and email address and build you a profile.
It' emails you a confirmation link to make sure you entered a legitimate address, and once you click the link emailed to you, your account is activated, and your username owned by you.
(Again were not doing this as of yet)

There is NOT currently anything on the forums showing how many or who is chatting.
It is available but I have to up my plan with the company to get that script and some other features. Which runs $15.00 a month. Not a bad price but I'm going to have to see a lot of interest in the thing before I let another forum toy nickle and dime me to death.

The same link out there gets you to the new chat, I just changed it. Or you can click HERE (http://forum.finsandfur.net/chitchat/fnfchat.html)

Again, you need a password right now or you dont get in. Pass is finschat

Check it out, give me some feedback.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Bills Custom Calls on March 14, 2011, 07:12:32 PM
I down loaded the latest version of Java then went to chat entered my screen name then went to the chat room then a little window popped up asking for the password I entered it then it looked like a chat room my name on the left but when I typed and entered there were no words  :wo: I took the little pointer thingy put it on the left side of the chat window held the left button down on the mouse and went to the right it slid my name to the left side of the chat window and I could see the words I typed
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: pitw on March 14, 2011, 07:39:35 PM
  Jim, I loved the old chat and can be counted on to help pay for the use of a new chat, but $15/month seems a mite steep.  Will this new one show us when someone is in there?  If not it's pretty much useless.  I managed to get in to this one but without Bills knowledge I'd have been screwed :whew:.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on March 14, 2011, 10:54:15 PM
 :alscalls: Ok...first of all it only took me and hour and 15 minutes to figure what in the sam hill you guys were talking about.  :doh2:

But I translated it, and got er. :innocentwhistle: :laf:
Basically the list of users was bigger then actual chat window, so the chat window appeared to be covered.
Bill when you did your little draggy slide thing, you basically expanded the chat window...and thats actually what those little arrows are for  :eyebrownod:

So, I've eliminated the necessity of users customizing the chat panel to your own personal likings by slapping a default size and layout on it. :shrug: That should eliminate any further confusion.
I just thought some of you would like to be able to move things around and adjust it to suit your needs or preferences.


Yes the chat has a script that can be placed on the forums letting people know how many or who is in there chatting at any givin time.
As mentioned in my first post;
Quote from: FinsnFur on March 14, 2011, 06:29:57 PM
There is NOT currently anything on the forums showing how many or who is chatting.
It is available but I have to up my plan with the company to get that script and some other features. Which runs $15.00 a month. Not a bad price but I'm going to have to see a lot of interest in the thing before I let another forum toy nickle and dime me to death.


Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: slagmaker on March 15, 2011, 12:11:32 AM
Hey what ya know I can use that chat.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on March 15, 2011, 09:41:43 AM
I got in after reading the Directions. cc
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: pitw on March 15, 2011, 09:47:47 AM
Well you ain't there now.  Jim did fix the page so I can see my words though.  Will this new chat remember our settings so we don't have to hit options a kabillion times each time we enter. :whew:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: HaMeR on March 15, 2011, 09:59:11 AM
It does look rather easy to use. I talked to myself in there this AM when nobody was looking.  :nono: :nono:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on March 15, 2011, 12:23:34 PM
Quote from: pitw on March 15, 2011, 09:47:47 AM
Will this new chat remember our settings so we don't have to hit options a kabillion times each time we enter. :whew:

As long as you login with the same name yes. If you change your name it doesnt know that you changed your name and therefore it doesnt know who you are or what your settings were.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Hawks Feather on March 15, 2011, 05:18:53 PM
Quote from: HaMeR on March 15, 2011, 09:59:11 AM
It does look rather easy to use. I talked to myself in there this AM when nobody was looking.  :nono: :nono:

So that was you!  I kept sitting here at my computer talking back when I would see you post, but you wouldn't answer.  You just kept talking to yourself.

Jerry
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on March 15, 2011, 06:45:37 PM
 :laf: :nono: You two gotta get off that stuff.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: HaMeR on March 15, 2011, 07:08:38 PM
Quote from: Hawks Feather on March 15, 2011, 05:18:53 PM
Quote from: HaMeR on March 15, 2011, 09:59:11 AM
It does look rather easy to use. I talked to myself in there this AM when nobody was looking.  :nono: :nono:

So that was you!  I kept sitting here at my computer talking back when I would see you post, but you wouldn't answer.  You just kept talking to yourself.

Jerry

Keep making fun of me Jerry & I'll use that "Report to Moderator" button in your post!!  :noway:

:laf: :laf:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on March 15, 2011, 07:35:50 PM
I'm going into chat RIGHT NOW!
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: HaMeR on March 15, 2011, 09:14:05 PM
Ya done good on the chat room Jimbo!!!!!!  :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: slagmaker on March 15, 2011, 11:31:17 PM
I be in chat and no ones be in there with me...... I miss Becky. :sad:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: HaMeR on March 16, 2011, 06:04:47 AM
1/2 a dozen of us in there last night slag. Too bad you missed it. Everybody had fun.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Hawks Feather on March 16, 2011, 06:33:34 AM
Quote from: HaMeR on March 16, 2011, 06:04:47 AM
Everybody had fun.

I was there for a very short time, got called an azz by my someone who thinks more of himself than I do, and left..

Jerry
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: HaMeR on March 16, 2011, 07:06:16 AM
Not sure the word "think" comes to mind with that one but so be it...
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: alscalls on March 16, 2011, 07:26:52 AM
If the shoe fits......

I had a BLAST!!!!!   :biggrin:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: pitw on March 16, 2011, 07:27:49 AM
I called someone an adze but then I was there longer than most :biggrin:. 
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: HaMeR on March 16, 2011, 07:28:53 AM
An adze?? Isn't that a hollowing tool Barry??  :laf: :laf:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: pitw on March 16, 2011, 08:01:54 AM
  Yep HaMeR it is.  The particular fellow I called an adze was talking of making a bowl and putting it up for auction to help pay for the new chat room.  Interesting enough he was the only one to come forth with an item for that purpose.  I suppose that should get him called a few names too, eh. :huh:  But then maybe he was doing it for the "atta boy". :biggrin:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: HaMeR on March 16, 2011, 08:09:17 AM
Anything is possible here Barry. You know that.  :laf:  Besides Jim won't take the $$ anyhow. This isn't predator masters where the almighty dollar rules the day contrary to some beliefs. Not sure why anybody needs to do any name calling but if it fits their agenda then so be it. Not pointing any fingers at you. I don't think you do it out of spite.  :wink:

I had the opportunity to use an adze once. That thing will work you bad til you get used to it.  :whew:  After that it's a joy to see those chips fly out of the log the way they do.  :biggrin:  The Indians used to hollow canoes out with fire til they got ahold of steel to make their adze from. Then they would charcoal & scrape the bottoms to smooth them out. It's a neat process & they could build a fleet of canoes rather quickly using that method.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: pitw on March 16, 2011, 08:42:06 AM
  I've owned a few adzes over the years.  They work well but I have not the trees to really test them.  There were bowl adzes as well and that was where the adze calling started from last night. 
  I got a notion that if we offer to help Jim pay for the use of chat out of the goodness of our hearts that he'll relent[albeit maybe with a sore arm] and allow us to help.  I for one like to help pay for anything I use[I've noticed that guys who go camping/hunting and don't pull their freight often get left off the truck the next time around] and told Jim I would be willing to help out as well. 
  Chat has been wonderful to me as I've made many friends and got more useful information there than I've gleaned from some other forums on the net.  Personal attacks have no place in chat as well as people coming in incognito trying to stir the pot.  I suppose I can honestly say that I use it more than most, it can be both entertaining and enlightening if given a chance.  Tik will attest to the fact that sometimes the conversation has more twists than a 1/4 mile long coil spring but if you pay attention it actually makes sense :biggrin:.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on March 16, 2011, 09:08:11 AM
Quote from: pitw on March 16, 2011, 08:01:54 AM
The particular fellow I called an adze was talking of making a bowl and putting it up for auction to help pay for the new chat room.  Interesting enough he was the only one to come forth with an item for that purpose.  I suppose that should get him called a few names too, eh. :huh:  But then maybe he was doing it for the "atta boy". :biggrin:

:laf: :laf: C'mon ma'an In defense of the rest of mankind, there was only one other person in the whole room during that conversation. WTH?
AND...  you actually suggested the very act your praising him for. :doh2:

Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: HaMeR on March 16, 2011, 09:20:20 AM
We were at an old historical Indian campground & they had Native Americans there demonstrating the adze. The smaller bowl adze's were used by the Women & Children as per their accounts. It was neat,, & painful  :whew: ,, to watch those young men work the bowl adze with the log between their knees swinging back at themselves. Other than at the Historical Village I've never seen an adze anywhere else except in a museum.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: pitw on March 16, 2011, 10:52:55 AM
Quote from: FinsnFur on March 16, 2011, 09:08:11 AM
:laf: :laf: C'mon ma'an In defense of the rest of mankind, there was only one other person in the whole room during that conversation. WTH?

You ever notice that one or a hundred makes absolutely no difference around here. :noway:

Quote from: FinsnFur on March 16, 2011, 09:08:11 AM
AND...  you actually suggested the very act your praising him for. :doh2:

  Does it matter if a person see's a great idea and runs for a touchdown with it.  I find praise gathers more friends than ridicule :biggrin:. 
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on March 16, 2011, 01:06:40 PM
You commented that your particular fellow was THE ONLY one to come forth. :confused:
I'm saying how could anyone else be expected to come forth when no one was there.

Thats kind of like running a poll and then closing it after the first person votes and praising him for voting. wth? LMAO! :loco:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: pitw on March 16, 2011, 02:18:27 PM
   He wasn't the only one I chatted with :nono:. 
   More back on topic :iroll:.   Were you aware that you can't paste in there.  Like as in paste a url so the other guys can see what the[L] your talking about or a link to a picture in the bucket.  That doooooooooooooo suck big time. :holdon: 
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Bills Custom Calls on March 16, 2011, 03:51:23 PM
Did Ya notice I left and didn't even say good night
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on March 16, 2011, 04:54:40 PM
You can paste in there Barry. I was copying your chats, pasting them back in my reply quoting them as I replied to you.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: pitw on March 16, 2011, 05:00:06 PM
What do I got to change. :shrug:  I was chatting with a couple guys this morning and couldn't copy from the page or paste in the box :pout:.  That audio thingy threw me off the whole computer again too :doh2:.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on March 16, 2011, 05:12:45 PM
I dont know what you have to change since I dont know what your doing. I'll go out on a limb and guess your right and left clicking. Which only works 100% of the time on local applications.

What are Local Applications?
Local Applications are programs that you open, run, use, or edit that are installed on your computer and that you do NOT access the web to use them. ie; Paint Shop, Word, Notepad, Excell, etc.

The chat script is accessed via the web, and while "That doooooooooooooo suck big time"...it's really the only possible method. Not ridiculing...just some friend gathering praise really. :alscalls:

Why dont you just use Hotkeys to do your cut and paste stuff?
CTRL-X    Cut
CTRL-C    Copy
CTRL-V    Paste
CTRL-Z    Undo
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: pitw on March 16, 2011, 06:02:53 PM
Hot key :alscalls: :alscalls: :alscalls: :alscalls: :alscalls:
I got a stuck key :doh2:
.
I tried that and it don't copy. It opened up a private chat window.
It pasted though but not what I wanted.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Hawks Feather on March 16, 2011, 07:22:49 PM
Quote from: alscalls on March 16, 2011, 07:26:52 AM
If the shoe fits......

I had a BLAST!!!!!   :biggrin:

I guess it all depends on how an average person would look at it.  Since it wasn't made by what I think of as an average person or at least one who I have any respect for, I guess I should just forget it and the person that posted it.  Yea, that will be a BLAST!!!!    Bye  :yoyo: :yoyo: :yoyo: :highclap: :highclap: :highclap:

Jerry
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on March 20, 2011, 09:36:41 AM
The new Chat sometimes lets me in no problem and sometimes I get the black screen and cannot get back to the main page without closing Browser, it always takes a long time to load up during login, don't know if it is my Puter or program. cc  :confused:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on March 20, 2011, 10:38:57 AM
What browser are you using? .....and are you using the same one all the time?
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on March 20, 2011, 03:18:17 PM
Jim,I use FireFox all the time.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on March 20, 2011, 07:47:16 PM
OK, well you got something burred up or outdated, lets start here. Visit this link to find out if your java needs to be updated.
http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on March 21, 2011, 04:51:39 PM
Ok I did that and had several versions that needed to be deleted but still having same problems signing in, could be my Puter as I am having some troubles with mail also not loading or very slow. cc
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on March 21, 2011, 07:16:00 PM
Well I am having problems with my Browser( Firefox) will not load my Tool bar for email, spent several hours on the phone with Att to see if they could fix, they hooked me up with their Tech Support and wanted to charge me $50.00 to fix it or sign up for $15.00 a month fee for Tech service of which I refused so I will have to deal with it some other way, They said it sounded like a software problem or could be a virus, if Virus they would charge more, if they did not fix I would still have to pay. (What a Deal) cc
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on March 21, 2011, 09:33:09 PM
I know this might sound like a stupid question, but are you running anti-virus software?
Before you answer, I dont mean is there anti-virus software on your computer, I mean are you running anti-virus software?
In other words is it loaded by default every time your computer fires up and the whole time it's running, and are you either manually or automatically installing updates once or more per week?

Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too many people think that just because the word anti-virus appears on their computer they are protected.
Fact is they could not be any more wrong.
Even more people think that as long as they dont look at porn sites they dont need antivirus. And that is a gross misconception also.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: HaMeR on March 22, 2011, 05:44:55 AM
Quotegross misconception

:confused:  I don't want to know what kind of porn you're watching Jimbo!!  :nono: :nono:

Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on March 22, 2011, 10:48:31 AM
Ohh speaking of that those links you sent me were awesome :yoyo:  :alscalls:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: pitw on March 22, 2011, 11:02:24 AM
The damb chat wouldn't let me in either :argh:.  Said I was already there.  Signed in as Barry and I wasn't there. :doh2:  Stupid thing just as well be gone.
:biggrin:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on March 22, 2011, 11:22:25 AM
When you and Al leave do you log out or just walk away from the computer?
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: HaMeR on March 22, 2011, 11:49:55 AM
Quote from: FinsnFur on March 22, 2011, 10:48:31 AM
Ohh speaking of that those links you sent me were awesome :yoyo:  :alscalls:

Those were MOP links Jim. I knew you would enjoy them. Bopeye wanted you to have them.  :shrug:

Midget Oriental Porn
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: pitw on March 22, 2011, 12:54:54 PM
I generally log out but occasionally I manage to get punted :laf:.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on March 22, 2011, 01:07:45 PM
Jim, I do have Anti-virus software,(Norton) Could that be a problem? cc
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on March 22, 2011, 02:46:34 PM
I've merged the "help me" posts from the other thread, (which happened to be for the old chat by the way) into this thread where it will all make more sense.


No Carl, Norton wouldnt be the problem, as long as, like I said, it's actually running and being updated at least once every other day at the bare minimum.
I think you've got something else going on over there if your browser is freezing up and you have to X it out and restart it.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on March 22, 2011, 04:03:17 PM
Something is going on for sure, This morning everything was working like it was suppose to, When I got on it awhile ago FireFox was gone ( wiped Out) My Bookmarks, Email list everything but I can get in on Explorer, I Downloaded Fire Fox again but all my old info is gone, :confused: Blows my mind
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on March 23, 2011, 08:04:35 AM
Looks like for now I have my Puter fixed all by my self, After spending another useless couple of hours with My Internet provider and accomplishing nothing I started trying to fix it my self and WALA got everything back in order, Don't really know what all I done but it works.   :iroll: cc
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on March 23, 2011, 10:04:48 AM
Thats a kinda frightening :sad3: :laf:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on March 23, 2011, 02:03:01 PM
 :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: It is, this thing may blowup at any time but it is working right now. cc
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: pitw on April 03, 2011, 09:45:27 AM
  There are some more glitch's in this chat. :argh:  Some guys cannot copy and paste.  urls that get pasted don't work in there.  I tested that one by pming the same url to people. Weird as [L].
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on April 03, 2011, 11:05:54 AM
I found that a lot of my problems was with the Norton Antivirals program, I called the and had them to update the program as I was not able to, puter would not let me and it took them at least 30 to 45 minutes to get it cleaned up but sure did make a difference and I have also been learning how to clean up the Hard drive my self, these thing can be very tricky. cc
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 03, 2011, 01:09:31 PM
I wonder how long you had been running with Norton not running. Just the thought of that gives me the willies  :sad3:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 03, 2011, 09:44:50 PM
Barry, I hopped in chat tonight and gave her the old ONE-TWO!
Ah dunno,  :confused: I can still post url's and I can still copy, and I can still paste, just like I said I could three weeks ago when you said it was broke.  :laf:

I even took a hero pic of my success :yoyo:
Typed in a couple hot links. Whats a hotlink? I'm glad you asked. A hotlink is a url that can be clicked.
Whats a URL? I know you know what a URL is, I've seen you use the term, Rather loosely I might add. :laf:
And even copied a few lines from the chat window and pasted them back in.

Oh, click image to enlarge
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: pitw on April 03, 2011, 11:07:57 PM
  Jim I can paste and copy.  Art, Al, couldn't paste or copy in there.  When I posted a whatever link in there art couldn't open it nor could Bill, Carl or Scott.  I pm'd same link to Bill and skyped it to Art. Opened fine there :shrug:.  Just letting you know what us guys in chat are finding.  Never once said I knew anything.
:wink:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 04, 2011, 05:58:12 AM
Ohhhhhhhhhhh ok, I got ya now :doh2:
I thought you said chat had some more glitches and then posted an angry face. :innocentwhistle:

Well whatever it is I'm replying to, those wouldnt be glitches in the chat.  If some people can do it and some people cant then .......yeah....you see what I'm saying? It obviously works, right?

Some people can drive stick shift and some people cant. So the stick shift has glitches? :laf:

Ask, Art, Al, Bill, Carl, and Scott what happens when they try to open a link that you post on the chat and report back to me. I'll see if I can extend some Windows® Support cause this isnt a chat glitch.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: 5 SHOTS on April 04, 2011, 11:16:29 AM
I can open any links pasted in chat, but I cannot paste a link myself. I have tried both ways and it will copy but not paste. I have tried to paste a link in chat with nothing happening there only to paste the same link in skype without having to copy it again. I did paste a few links a while back but then something somewhere changed. I even asked our new geek (Barry) what i was doing wrong. He was immensely helpful,  :innocentwhistle: but even he couldn't solve the problem.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 04, 2011, 01:15:36 PM
Did you try updating your java? http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Bills Custom Calls on April 04, 2011, 02:54:20 PM
Barry put a link up to a photo bucket page When I clicked on the link it went to photo bucket but the page he posted was not found 404 error page not found
e sent the same link(I guess) in a pm,and when I clicked on that link it went to his pics
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 04, 2011, 04:34:11 PM
Thats not a chat glitch either. :laf:

Basically that linked worked but it went to two different places. If it dont work, it dont work....meaning it dont go anywhere.
The fact that it went to two different places at two different times means it was two different links.
In other words, somehow, someway, somewhere, the link was altered as it was either copied or pasted one of the two times. And the chat didn't do that.  :nono: hey that rhymed! :biggrin:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: pitw on April 04, 2011, 04:38:47 PM
  I never did anything different, I hit ctrl +V in chat and then again in the pm. :shrug: 
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 04, 2011, 05:02:25 PM
You did something different because the chat does not render urls and alter them, it can't, it dont, it wont.
Where you place your cursor when you pasted could have even done it, which could add a space at the beginning or the end. Or even cut one of the letters out unknowingly. Which is actually very common.

This situation didnt require me to solve it. It was pretty much solved when someone said the link went to two different places. "the link went"...was all I needed to hear to place it in the user error category. :wink:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FOsteology on April 04, 2011, 05:38:53 PM
ID 10 T  error....  :alscalls:

At least that's what they were called when I was working IT almost a decade ago.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on April 04, 2011, 06:25:49 PM

Has the chat been unpluged When I try to log in the screen goes blank. :confused: cc








Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 04, 2011, 07:48:05 PM
Nope, she's alive and well Carl. But that sounds like a misconfigured java application running on your computer. You can try rebooting it.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on April 05, 2011, 06:25:35 AM
Jim, I went in to the Java Program and reset default but still not working. How do I reboot Java?

thanks Carl
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 05, 2011, 07:16:33 AM
No Carl I meant restarting your computer.
On your computer, click the "Start" button (in Windows XP) or "Windows" button (in Vista) on the lower left corner of your screen. In the window that pops up, select the small arrow on the bottom right corner. Click "Restart." Your computer will immediately close all open programs, shut down and restart.

Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on April 05, 2011, 07:56:13 AM
Thanks Jim, I have done the restart several times but Chat still not working, don't know what I have done but last night it went off on me while in chat and have not been able to bring it back up. I thought I had my computer cleaned up but something is still wrong, one thing I keep getting a message that one CPU is in High use near 100 %, what does that mean? I have done the Disc clean, deleted History, deleted Cache, Defrag, may have deleted something I should not have. Carl
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 05, 2011, 09:04:39 AM
Ok, but chat is still working. Your computer isnt though.

High CPU usage typically means that you have a runaway process taking place. ( a misconfigured or malicious program running behind that scenes)

The easiest way to figure out which program is doing this, is to click "Ctrl" + Alt + Delete
It will throw up a window, and you click the "processes tab"
On the processes page look for one that has numbers flying by like the gas pump when your filling your car. It'll be in the CPU column.
Write down the name of the program, so you can bring it back and tell me.
Then highlight it by clicking on it, and then click "end process at the bottom.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on April 05, 2011, 10:35:33 AM
Jim, I did that and the only that was doing somewhat like you said was (sidebar. exe  11832k windows ) I clicked end process and it remover sidebar but still cannot get into Chat. Carl
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on April 05, 2011, 11:08:02 AM
I went back to the Process and clicked all users and there are a couple of program showing CPU usage of around 50%
System Idle CPU varies between 29% to 50 %
Mcciserviceio CPU varies between 29% 50 %
I also get Errow Loading Message when restarting ( C:\ Progrm-1\mywebs-1\bar\4.bin\F3scrctr.dll ) This Specified Module could not be found.
Could that have anything to do with it?
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 05, 2011, 12:36:44 PM
F3scrctr.dll is not a windows file. But it is used for recording and monitoring...by whoever put it there. Which makes me think you have spyware running on your machine now.

Which stems back to this post: http://forum.finsandfur.net/index.php?topic=14281.msg165085#msg165085  where I asked if you were running any anti virus software and you said yes. Actually you said you had, but you didnt confirmed it was up to date and running.
Seeing the word Norton on a computer doesn't necessarily mean that Norton is running on it. Virus's and malicious programs can disguise themselves as anything they want. And your F3scrctr.dll file is a good example. Malicious users will hide that in your windows directory and use it for something else.

I've said this a million times to over a hundred people. Anti-virus software is as useless as tits on a bull if it's not kept up to date and running constantly.

Oh well I dont look at porn I only go to hunting sites.
It doesn't matter. If your online your more prone to be attacked if your not running some protection. Just because you know how to swim doesnt mean you cant drowned.


Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on April 05, 2011, 04:04:04 PM
When you asked about the Anti-Virus and I said I had it on my computer which is Norton, I pay a fee every year to them and they send a notice when they have an update and I run the update so I thought I was updated but I got to checking and run a scan that showed they was a later up date but when I tried to run it I could not get it to work so I called them and spent about an hour on the phone and
on the Computer with them while they Downloaded the latest version and installed it on my computer it is set up for Automatic scans so I am assuming that it is running all the time. I don't go to Porn site or any other Chat sites or anything that I suspect could give me a Virus. The F3scrctr.dll if it is not a Windows how do I find and delete it. Thanks for trying to help me out cc
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on April 05, 2011, 04:29:46 PM
Jim,This is strange that the chat seems to be the only thing not working, everything else seems to be working, when I try to log into Chat it lets me put in my user name and then it blinks out, Crazy? cc
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 05, 2011, 04:59:18 PM
You read through my reply too fast Carl, you missed the jest.  <---- Rhyme!  :eyebrownod: Well almost.

I said you do not have to go to a porn site to get a virus. I repeat, you do not :nono:
You can actually get a virus reading this thread, why... because your online and the world can see your computer.
With out protection, again I say without protection, your vulnerable if your online, anywhere, anytime.

and...
There's several ways that you can remove the F3scrctr.dll on your computer if it was not put there by legitimate software.  I repeat...if it was not put there by legitimate software.
But I dont think your going to be able to tell yourself. And I'm not comfortable trying to walk you through something I'm not sure your capable of.
The best thing would be to search that file on Nortons site, and go from there.

Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on April 05, 2011, 06:59:42 PM
Jim, I tried just about everything using the Norton program , I finally decided to try Internet Explorer for my Browser, Guess what it let me into Chat, Could Firefox then be the problem I have been having? cc
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Bills Custom Calls on April 05, 2011, 07:10:22 PM
Carl
I use firefox and I have gotten the black screen I have seen the Java thing and then get the box to sign in then never get the password box I have also signed in seen the chat room and what was being said there but never showed where I joined chat and I couldn't join in the conversation but anytime I had trouble I would just click the back arrow and log in the 2nd time and go right in I always figured it was my computer not loading the chat room right since I could get in on the 2nd attempt
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 06, 2011, 12:08:56 AM
Without actually being there and seeing whats happening, those both sound like out of date java applications.
As far as changing the browser fixing things, I'm pretty sure thats going to be a temporary solution, because all your really doing by switching browsers is starting with a cleared java console. Even that's on a whim, but you can clear your console with out switching browsers.

Carl, I love you man....but I have a sneaking hunch your issues are far from over, and every day that goes by, these problems dig their claws in deeper. Were gonna be discussing your machine again.  :eyebrownod:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on April 06, 2011, 09:04:15 AM
I have checked the installed Java and it says that I have the latest version and I deleted the older versions the last time we talked about that, What is console and how do I clear it, I know I ask a lot of stupid questions but I am not a Computer Doctor but a Patient and trying to learn, The question I asked about Firefox was did you think there could be a problem in Firefox that was causing the problem. If you don't want to answer these questions just say so and I will quit asking. But Chat is the only place that is causing problems right now.  :confused: Thanks Carl
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 06, 2011, 10:25:16 AM
Ok, then your particular problem may not be caused by Java itself, Carl. And like I said, without actually being there to see what is happening, this is very very hard for me to diagnose.

Short of hoppin in the truck and driving to South Carolina to set down and repair your computer, I'm answering your questions the best I can. I really am.  :laf: :laf: And I dont have a problem answering them. But you have to understand my position also. I'm not responsible for offering Windows technical support. I cannot be made out as the bad guy here for this.

I do not know if Firefox is causing your problems or not. I dont have enough information to even begin to make that assumption. What worries me the most here is still the fact that it sounded like your machine has internal issues with security. You seem to go through these high's and lows on a regular basis.

Which makes trying to repair this for you kind of like talking a guy threw applying a Bandaid to his arm while he stands in an open field taking on machine gun fire from all directions. :laf: You know what I'm saying?

Did you go to Nortons site and search Nortons site for the file you spoke of yesterday, like I suggested?
Do you know how to look at Norton and be sure that it's actually running and protecting your machine?
Has there ever been a full system scan done on your machine since you found out you were not protected by Norton?

Here's a link that will explain how to clear your java console. IF you even have access to yours, but I think your problems go far beyond this.
http://www.ehow.com/how_4676645_clean-your-java.html




Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Bopeye on April 06, 2011, 11:11:37 PM
Quote from: HaMeR on March 22, 2011, 11:49:55 AM
Quote from: FinsnFur on March 22, 2011, 10:48:31 AM
Ohh speaking of that those links you sent me were awesome :yoyo:  :alscalls:

Those were MOP links Jim. I knew you would enjoy them. Bopeye wanted you to have them.  :shrug:

Midget Oriental Porn

I just read this thread and am very disappointed with you Hamer. You promised you wouldn't tell anyone that I visited that place.  :alscalls:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: 5 SHOTS on April 06, 2011, 11:45:49 PM
Jim, I'm not sure, but I think I did update my Java about the time I discovered I couldn't put up a link in chat. Today, while showing a friend the chat, I was using Internet Explorer and it said I needed to enable Java, but it was already enabled. I tried installing the latest version of Java but got the same message. Then I opened it with Firefox. Chat started like normal then put a message up saying this application was designed for an older version of Java, would  I like to continue? I clicked OK and it opened chat like it always does. I guess what I'm trying to say is you were right, it must be Java causing the problems.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 07, 2011, 06:03:57 AM
Application was designed for an older version of Java?
Wow  :confused: That is definitely a new one.


Quote from: 5 SHOTS on April 06, 2011, 11:45:49 PM
I was using Internet Explorer and it said I needed to enable Java, but it was already enabled.
This doesnt surprise me. You have to consider the source, Internet Explorer  :laf:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on April 07, 2011, 10:34:52 AM
Well I be danged, Tried getting into Chat with FireFox and it let me in, my problem may have been that I was updated according to what Art said. Damn thing drove me crazy the last few days.  :confused: cc
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 07, 2011, 11:14:47 AM
 :doh2:   :huh:  :nono: LOL  I guess I should have said something about Internet Explorer




Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on April 07, 2011, 08:48:24 PM
Strange,I do thank you Bossman for the help as I think I learned  a lot about cleaning up my computer this week.  :biggrin: cc
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 07, 2011, 09:16:01 PM
What I want you to learn is that Internet Explorer sucks.....  :wink:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on April 08, 2011, 05:14:03 AM
I use FireFox all the time, only tried I/E the other day when FireFox would not let me in chat hopefully now that is resolved. Thanks cc
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on April 11, 2011, 07:54:12 AM
Well its not resolved tried to sign in yesterday on FireFox and it blinks out and this morning also, but I can get in on I/E. Any one else having this problem? cc
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 12, 2011, 10:43:11 PM
 :confused: There sure seems to be a lot of drama on that end Carl.
I'm not saying your pretending, I'm convinced your experiencing problems. But I'm bewildered at the unstable environment that your able to do what you do, in.
It works, it dont work, it works, it dont work. :doh2:

I went back through some of your old posts when we had the other chat.  Same routine...it works, this sucks, it works, this sucks. :laf:

I'm coming to South Carolina. I'm gonna fix that piece of crap you call a computer and then you, me and Ronnie, are going out killing some stuff.  :eyebrow:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: 5 SHOTS on April 12, 2011, 10:56:44 PM
Quote from: FinsnFur on April 12, 2011, 10:43:11 PM
I'm coming to South Carolina. I'm gonna fix that piece of crap you call a computer and then you, me and Ronnie, are going out killing some stuff.  :eyebrow:


Wow! If that is all it takes.... Hey this don't work, but that isn't working, but it wasn't fixed, so now it works, but then it was working, and it was fixed so its broken now, and this is a POS but it didn't work then, sometimes it does, but then sometimes?





:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 12, 2011, 11:03:12 PM
Ok, hang on...I'm making a list here.

f  i  v  e ...... s  h  o  t  s,....... ok  I got 5 shots.
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: HaMeR on April 13, 2011, 05:05:45 AM
Quote from: FinsnFur on April 12, 2011, 11:03:12 PM
Ok, hang on...I'm making a list here.

f  i  v  e ...... s  h  o  t  s,....... ok  I got 5 shots.


:whew:  Glad you remembered the ammo Jim!!  :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 13, 2011, 05:17:56 AM
No thats a different list

Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: 5 SHOTS on April 13, 2011, 08:43:24 AM
You should bring something to put the bullet in too. Unless you just plan on throwing it.


:laugh2: :laugh2:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on April 13, 2011, 09:04:27 AM
You think it blows your mind, I am not kidding I have done everything I know to do and it still will not work with FireFox but it will on I/E, I have removed Java, FireFox, and reloaded them, run full anti-virus scans, disc Clean, you name it, I did find the errow program in Norton, its is in the startup section and is a Screensaver program but I have not been able to remove it so Hell fire jump in your truck and come on down we will go down to Georgia and call up some Coyotes .  :eyebrownod: cc
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 13, 2011, 03:40:21 PM
Ah'm putting my boots on!  :yoyo:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on April 13, 2011, 04:29:33 PM
I 'll put the coffee pot on.  :laf: cc
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Bills Custom Calls on April 14, 2011, 03:28:22 PM
Better put Pepsi and Bud Light on ice if Jim is heading down there Temps Above 70 And he will be shirtless  :holdon: :holdon: :laf: :laf:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: FinsnFur on April 14, 2011, 05:00:12 PM
 :eyebrownod: you damn straight :biggrin:
Title: Re: NEW CHAT 3-14-11
Post by: Carolina Coyote on April 14, 2011, 05:35:21 PM
No Problem "Come on Down" The weather is fine!!!   :biggrin:  :biggrin: cc