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Title: 221 Fireball CZ Rifle
Post by: caller223 on August 19, 2007, 09:11:03 PM
Didn't get a chance to shoot it yet, but here is the little CZ 527 American model in .221 Fireball.  Super little gun, stuck a older leupold 3-9 vari x 2 on it.
2nd batch of 223 brass formed and trimmed to .221 so ready to go on nice day.  Cases formed up easy in size die with expander button removed, made little case holder while cutting to length on bandsaw, then final trim with Lee case trimmer tool using 22 hornet rod.
Richard Grantham
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/barberx/26.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/barberx/caseform.jpg)
Title: Re: 221 Fireball CZ Rifle
Post by: Hawks Feather on August 19, 2007, 09:46:46 PM
Do you notice much difference in the neck wall thickness when you are forming them from the .223 brass?  Or are you using "better" brass to start with?

Jerry
Title: Re: 221 Fireball CZ Rifle
Post by: FOsteology on August 19, 2007, 09:54:51 PM
Richard,

I think you're really going to enjoy the CZ 527. Everyone I've ever had has shot very well. The Fireball is also a neat varmint caliber.
Title: Re: 221 Fireball CZ Rifle
Post by: Montana Hunter on August 20, 2007, 04:40:31 AM

I just picked up my 1st CZ last week :biggrin:-should have it out to the range later this week!  The fireball is a great choice I think your gonna really like it! :yoyo:  Let us know how it shoots.  I will try to post some pics here of mine as well.  I got a 527 varmint in 204 ruger. Greg
Title: Re: 221 Fireball CZ Rifle
Post by: HaMeR on August 20, 2007, 06:28:03 AM
Nice rig!!  :thumb2:

I really like my CZ American FireBall too. It shoots little tiny groups at 100yds with a 50gr Sierra BlitzKing, WSR primer & 18.6grs of Re7. The OAL is 1.930".  Most FireBalls I've read about like between 18.5 & 18.7grs of Re7. HTH
Title: Re: 221 Fireball CZ Rifle
Post by: awh on August 20, 2007, 08:18:16 AM
Do they offer factory ammo for this? I've been out of reloading for many moons and I like the specs i read on this caliber. Think it would be a good one for Cam to receive at Christmas this year. :biggrin: (Wife said I can't have any more guns for a while, soooo :innocentwhistle:)
Title: Re: 221 Fireball CZ Rifle
Post by: FOsteology on August 20, 2007, 12:24:01 PM
Yes, there's factory loads available. Although, very limited.

Nosler Custom Ammunition has the following:

40gr. Ballistic tip
50gr. Ballistic tip

And Remington has:

50gr. Accutip Boat Tail

The Nosler ammo is $45+ per box of 50
The Remington is $23 per box of 20
Title: Re: 221 Fireball CZ Rifle
Post by: caller223 on August 20, 2007, 05:43:54 PM
Many thanks for all the posts.   Will check neck thickness- really need to shoot and see neck expansion, if enough to drop bullet in fired case its good.
I think the fireball is made for reloads, cost per shell is very low, I havae lots of 224 bullets and rel 7 and lilgun are made for this caliber.
I consider it a Super Hornet,  couple hundred feet velocity or more in a cheap reformed case and only 13 to 18 grain powder makes for cheap shooting.
Fos good to see posts,  I haven't made it down to Richards in Seguin for awhile.

Richard Grantham
Title: Re: 221 Fireball CZ Rifle
Post by: HaMeR on August 20, 2007, 06:57:37 PM
 The Hunting Shack loads a 42gr'er  for the FireBall as well. They come in 50rd boxes.  :eyebrow:


http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20712-cat20839&id=0031388215719a&navCount=1&podId=0031388&parentId=cat20839&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IH&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20839&hasJS=true

edited to reflect the fact that I actually found it!! :biggrin:

HTH