(http://www.thogamecalls.com/MiscPics/knightandhalecall.jpg)
:rolleye: :rolleye: :rolleye: :rolleye: :rolleye:
OMG, that is unbelievable :shck:
3 2 1 Blast off!!!! :laf:
bootmud
Bootmud -
I guess you missed the point
I have been making this call for the last 2 years they copied it. I suppose I just dont think it is funny or ethical. But maybe it's just me.
(http://www.thogamecalls.com/MiscPics/Picture%20003.jpg)
Al
They've done it before. Remember the Double Clucker goose call? I know the guy who designed that call.
If ya got something ya don't want copied........better get a patent on it.
Semp
Quote from: THO Game Calls on April 10, 2008, 10:34:29 AM
Bootmud -
I guess you missed the point
I have been making this call for the last 2 years they copied it. I suppose I just dont think it is funny or ethical. But maybe it's just me.
(http://www.thogamecalls.com/MiscPics/Picture%20003.jpg)
Al
Al,
I was referring to the name on the knight and Hale call "Blasting Chamber".
I don't think someone copying your call is at all funny or ethical and I don't know how you would take that from my post.
I don't know if you've seen my line of calls yet or not but they are a look completely of their own. I don't want anyone else copying my calls and I know how it would upset me and I'm sure you feel the same. That being said that doesn't surprise me from a company as big as Knight and Hale, they do what they want to make a buck.
I don't find YOUR situation funny whatsoever. :shrug:
bootmud
al I sent curt a pm explaining the situation. remember he is a new fella here and does not know what has happened in the last few years. so please don't hold it against him.
and that burl on that call still drives me wild. even the black wood is awesome looking in the sun.
Bootmd -
we're good. It just has not been a good morning and I think I am a bit touchy right now.
Time to take the 300 winni mag out again.
Be back later
Al
LOL - hope you dont mind me posting a picture of your call LOL
Bootmud is OK. I just took it wrong. Common for me
Al
:argh: That's just disgusting :argh: I don't know if it will help but we should start a mass e-mail to Knight & Hale complaining and make sure there is a post about it on all forums. Al, I'm right there with you, I'd be having a bad day too.
No problems here. Thanks Al. Thanks Bigben.
bootmud
Here is the link,keep them professional we don't want to stoop to there level.
http://www.knightandhale.com/ContactUs/default
Thanks Troy.....I already have mine sent in. :wink:
Yep, I sent in my disapproval as well. I have also stated a similar thread on my local forums. While maybe legal, it is sure unethical.
that call is amazing al and you can show it off whenever ya want. hopefully I can get a few pics this fall of killed critters with it. not many closed reeds stay on my laynard very long. this one is one that will stay on for a good bit I feel.
How ironic...
"Krusty does calls like this... I offer my apologies to him for sniping his idea."
Maybe K&H will offer you an apology? :roflmao:
Krusty (http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/wave1.gif)
ok I will be the one to ask
your kidding right???
you really think they copied your call,, intentionally :confused:
No George - I guess you are right as always.
My mistake guys. Just over reacting again.
When will I EVER learn about Predator Hunters and Predator Hunting - it just is NOT worth it anymore.
THanks George for bringing me back to reality.
AL
Your welcome , Anytime
George,
Actually, thanks for getting that ball rolling... I had, but deleted it from my post, knowing it could be taken the wrong way (because I am me).
I don't think K&H "copied" Al, because only in one view does it even look like Al's call (the bulb on the K&H is flattened... I've seen it in black rubber on some kinda old call).
On top of that, the K&H bulb is rubber, and that creates a "pressure pump" effect (I KNOW I've seen this thing before...), and that pump is driving a open reed style toneboard not a JC/Wintress type reed!
The trumpet form is anyone's, and that, to me, is the only real similarity in the reality of what these calls ARE... not what they look like.
Sorry Al man, the only thing I bring, is my truthful opinion...
Krusty (http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/wave1.gif)
Your welcome , Anytime
Al,
In retrospect, my attempt at humor was probably ill timed. For that I apologize.
I'm actually "with you" in a lot of ways... big post to follow.
Krusty (http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/wave1.gif)
Al,
Let's start with "are you over-reacting?"
I dunno for sure, only you do, but maybe?
The biggest thing you have to gain solace from, as I already stated, is that call isn't what your call IS (in soooo many ways).
But I am totally with you, in your gut reaction at the sight of the thing... you think I didn't throw a tantrum when I walked into Sportsmen's Wharehouse and saw that not only was someone using the double reeds I do, but dude even used my word!?!
The reality is though, as I said, your calls are so much more than anything Knight & Hale have ever made... I mean c'mon dude, it's the worst of the worst, you don't need to sweat them.
Do you think that for one minute, a guy is going to look at your work, look at that obvious POS from K&H, and decide he's not getting a custom call after all?
(*If he does, screw 'em... he wouldn't have cared about the call you made, like he should, anyways!)
It's the same thing for me... when I saw your wooden howler (or any of the other recent stuff like it)... do you think I thought "oh crap, now some guys aren't going to want Krusty Kriers anymore"?
Nope, not for a nanosecond. :nofgr:
I thought the same as I did (when I calmed down) about double-stacked reeds... "If someone else thinks it's worth doing, he must think have a good idea, and I took it as a compliment (even if you had to drink a buncha beer to think it was a good idea). :eyebrownod:
And it took a while to calm down, and I did over-react, so maybe you'll share that?
The other thing you have to take solace in, is the fact that you are so well respected in the call making community.
Your peers rallied around you, on sight alone... that says a lot.
Most of all, though, the K&H call isn't "what yours is" (it's an enclosed large toneboard howler, with a rubber bulb and a PLASTIC bell... that in a photo, from the proper angle, looks sorta like your call).
So try not to let it bug you, man. :whew:
Krusty (http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/wave1.gif)
P.S. Lemme ask you somethin' AL, "Why was it okay to "snipe" my idea?" (*Your words, not mine)
Was it because what you came up with looked different?
What about this case, they came up with a different idea, but ended up with similar looks?
Where's the line in the sand?
I'm confused... :shrug:
Ya,, what he said
I think you blow into different ends of the call!?!? :confused:
I used my muddy bonker last night and it still tastes bad.
Hey Al, I am supposed to blow into the funnel end, right!?!? :whew: :innocentwhistle:
Jim
Krusty,
let's start with I didn't even take the time to read your second post.
Lets just leave it at this
Al,
That's your choice, and your loss. :shrug:
Krusty (http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/wave1.gif)
Well I got my new Predator Extreme magazine in the mail last week. As I was paging through it I saw the new K & H call. My first thought was, that looks alot like one of Al's Bonkers.
It does resemble one of Al's Bonkers. But would I buy one of the new K & H calls, no! Why? Because I know even if the shape is similar I know that the quality is not even close.
The THO calls that I have and have seen are far superior to anything that I have seen or heard from K & H.
In my opinion if someone wants to copy your idea, it must be a good idea. Take it as a compliment.
CB223,
Thanks for summarizing my post, for Al. :laf:
Krusty (http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/wave1.gif)
just a simple question to start.... am i correct from reading the above... Al's call is running a jc style reed ??
"Just over reacting again."
Not meant to single you or anyone else out... but it sums it up extremely well and applies to lots of call makers. And that's a fact.
Would anyone with at least 2 living brain cells actually have a hard time differentiating between a finely made custom wood call and a mass produced piece of plastic/rubber? Does anyone really have a patent on their custom design that they may or may not have been the very first to use? Hundreds/thousands of designs are tried and discarded by custom call makers every year. So technically is it their design being copied later by someone else? How many call makers can raise their hand and say they make calls that do not have ANY of the ideas/designs/innovations of other call makers who came before them in one form or another? Yep, not a single hand - including from those who started making calls back when they were still making dirt. If you did raise your hand you are just kidding yourself. Imitation is a form of flattery and using new innovations is simply called progress. We'd all still be blowing on leaves stretched between our thumbs without the innovations that are incorporated into every custom call made today. Everyone just needs to accept it, not let it get under their skin and give their ego a rest.
I learned and life is sure simpler now.
L.
Quote from: yotehunter74 on April 10, 2008, 05:48:43 PM
just a simple question to start.... am i correct from reading the above... Al's call is running a jc style reed ??
it is running a jc style reed atleast I believe mine is. but I believe al blades em to make em sound the way he wants em. you have probably messed with more of the knight and hale stuff then anybody here I would guess.
Yotehunter74,
Yep, JC style reed, in Al's design.
I haven't test driven the new K&H, but I expect just from looking at the photos it's just a fancied up version of their old Model 927.
Apples and oranges.
Krusty (http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/wave1.gif)
It's basically the SOS they marketed last year and the year before. Just added the bulb for the beginer's to the sport as they put it .Just pop the bulb off and the oldtimers have that open reed style they prefer. Marketing crap for another call they sell. And that is the way the call companies do bussiness today. At least Primos had the sense to buy Randy Anderson for their promotions. Jimmie
:confused: Funny, only thing Al had to do was put a picture up... I guess when I saw it my imagination ran away too.
Maybe it was inspired by THO's bonker or maybe not but If anyone thinks K&H won't swipe a call design, you don't know them very well. :nono:
Semp
Outside of K&H looking like a POS made of rubber, I would swear they stole Al's design and I don't give a flying rat's rearend what anyone says........I'd be as pissed as AL.
I'm a broken down, fat man with one bad rumble left in me.............I'll go with ya Al. :yoyo:
They will all swipe design ideas. All you have to do is talk to some of the folks in the area that have done bussiness with a call compnay to find that out. Most of the call companies out there are using someone elses ideas to begin with. Ethridge used to supply parts for K&H until they sold out. He then tried to sell some of his ideas to another company with no luck, but guess what that company had the next season? Yep, similar but enough changes to make the new toy theirs.
I have to agree with Ladobe, There isn't much out there that hasn't already been done or tried. Somebody sees what you have done and they tinker with it to fit what they do or make it better. They adapt it to fit something they already do hoping to improve sales. Everybody does it.
I even know one call maker that try's anything and everything. His ideas come from what if I take this and try to make that. He's used duck call bodies to make predator calls and PVC Pipe to make turkey calls. Nothing is sacred fellas :eyebrownod: Jimmie
Knight & Hale should have stuck to turkey calls. :laf: I went over to their site, and couldn't help but notice a blatant copy of a Dan Thompson howler in there. Hey, did you guys know that the Tally Ho call was made by copying the innards of a Lohman duck call? A discontinued model, but still a duck call. In regard to the K&H call that looks sort of like one of Al,s designs, there is no way their call can do everything they say it will do. It ain't on their site yet, but I saw it advertised in a magazine. Nothing but a bad joke in my opinion.
Rich, which call was that?
yotehunter74,
K&H calls it their "Hecklin' Howler. You can see a good photo of it on very first post in this thread. The barrel of this call is way too long for the small diameter it has. You could likely get some pup sounds out of it, but not adult coyote howls, and what howls you get will likely not be very loud. Without being able to see the mouth piece or reed body, I can't really say much more except that if you took the goofy rubber syringe off and threw it away, it would work a little bit better I suppose. Now if you fitted that thing with a well tuned J.C. reed, you could use it as a rabbit call I guess. :laf:
Harold and Dave are just doing the promo stuff now adays. The company they work for owns their brand and does the design work in house. They don't even use the former suppliers of parts K&H once used. Jimmie
:confused: Did the teletubby jump on the K&H train? :shrug:
If you're reading this tebbe feel free to send me an email buddy. :wink:
They sure did copy the shape of it but I doubt they can match the service/sound from a dedicated custom call maker tho. I wouldn't buy it for the simple reason I don't like the looks of the materials they used. It looks extremely cheap & breakable to me.
I have been gone a few days and just skimmed posts, so I am a little late in posting this. I have not seen the call, other than the picture, but the shape sure looks like one of Al's Bonkers to me. Is it as good as a Bonker, I seriously doubt it, but since I don't plan to get one I will never know. I am well aware that there are only so many styles and that my calls may look like someone else's call, but when I (or another call maker) posts a call and have something that looks like a duplicate posted it does not make me feel too good. And before anyone starts, I am not looking for sympathy or any bull like that, just stating my view. Some people may agree while others disagree, and that is not a problem to me.
Jerry
The K&H version is just a toy aint it? :confused: I'm with HaMeR, I think it looks like something you'd find at Walmart hanging up by the Bicycle horns. :wink:
Al, I say do a mock up, all non transparent plastics, carve some mold lines in it, and call it Nite&Hail :yoyo:
so yotehunter how does this call sound? arent you on K+H field staff? I imagine you have used this call before right?
Let me clear up where I stand on this.
Did Knight and Hale copy the shape of my Bonker Calls?
Yes, I believe they did.
DO I CARE?
Yes I do. With a caveat. If Knight and Hale had come to me and said "Hey Al, we are going to make a new call and we want to use the shape of your bonkers for it" I would have been proud as a peacock! I wouldn't have asked them for ANYTHING. Just the knowledge that they thought enough of my design - shape - would have been priceless to me. But hey didn't. So screw them.
Everything else is just hogwash and of no importance to me. That the call is blown from the other end, works differently is a howler all that is Bull. It is the shape of the bonker call that they are trying to capitalize on. Period.
Ronne, the manager of game calls at Knight and Hale tells me he has never seen one of my bonkers. Yet we have a K&H pro staffer here? BradH don't you have some "history" with Yotehunter74? I think so eh?
If it is wrong to take pride in your work - then I am as wrong as I can be.
Non call makers talk out their ass when they say "there are only so many ways to turn a peice of wood". It takes a lot of time effort and materials to come up with a call design only to have some pissant copy it the next day. If it's so damn easy, then drop a couple hundred on a lathe and get to work and show us what YOU can do.
Finally, believe me, I would have been jumping for joy if Knight and Hale had said they wanted to use the shape of one of my calls for one of theirs. No amount of money or anything else would have EVER topped that -
If you dont believe me, I can post the letter from the publishing company that wanted to take all the tutorials on my web site and put them in a book. THe catch was, once the book was published, the tutorials would be their property and would have had to come off my web site. I said no. THe tutorials will stay on the site for all call makers -
So, to set the record straight -
I believe Knight and Hale copied the shape of my call. Then lied to me about doing so. If it happened to one of you, and you didn't care, you're not the kind of man I want to associate with anyway because you have no pride.
If that makes me a bad person in your eyes - tough. I don't care. It's jsut the way it is.
AL
Edited to add this -
If you can't see that they copied the shape of the bonker, then you are blind as a bat and dont beloing in the woods with a sling shot let alone a rifle. Get a seeing eye dog because you really need one. And again, if you disagree - tough. I dont care. It is what it is no mather what you want to jabber on and on about.
I am not a political person, and do not participate in the debates that occur. But after seeing this thread, it's a sad thing to say. But anymore when I log onto a Custom call makers board, the first thing I am doing is looking to see "who copied who?" We teach our children not to copy others work in school. And to do their own work. Copying another was just not tolerated! You got caught, and you got punished! Atleast that was how I was brought up, and how my children were raised. Yet today we turn a "blind eye" towards it?
The sad fact is that some folks see a design that is selling for someone else, and right away, and with blatant disregard, copy it, and market it as their own? Could we call it the "Evolution of call making?" I call it greed. Plain and simple! As for the people that do this sort of thing, I have no respect for them. I personally do not find it flattering to see something you worked hard on copied. But then again, that is just me.
It bothered me when I saw Al's call copied here, and once by another. Chance circumstance? I just don't buy that. I am sorry Al, that once again you have become the victim. The only flattering thing in this whole scenario is that they chose to copy a Premier Call Maker. I doubt you'll find much solace in that? But it is true. At this point in time, I personallly will not be supporting KnH products.
I read the write up on th call in question last week in the Predator Xtreme gear guide. First thing I thought was that it did look like Al's bonker. But that is where the similarities end. They have done enough changes to make this design theirs no matter how loud and long anybody yells about it.
None of us go to the trouble of patents or copyrights. This leaves us wide open for these things to happen. You build a better mouse trap without this and someone is going to steal it and market it.
If you believe that ethics mean anything to a large corporation you are in for a large let down. It's not a matter of right and wrong, it's the dollars and cents that matter to them. The company I worked for even tried to steal our pensions when they left North America. An agreement is just another thing to break if they can.
K&H has been trying to get a part of the predator market for a long time and have not gotten thier fair share yet. Of the call companies that have made thier name in other fields of pursuit only Primos has come close to it. Over the years I have seen corporations buy up many callmakers for this and they hybridized and bastardized nearly all of them. Only Burnham bros still stands alone as far as I know.
Take pride in the fact that you all still have your ethics. This is what makes you unique in a world gone nuts. Jimmie
Yes I thought you sounded reticules thinking K&H call is like yours AL,,,
do you really believe every one knows your calls :confused:
I been doing this calling thing for 30 some years and I never heard tell of your calls till the last couple years and today I couldn't look at a call and say it was one of yours..
What is it Mr. krusty was insinuating in his post Al :confused: :confused: :confused: don't side step it ,, what's he talking about????
I looked at some of your calls and nice they are, but , are you the first guy to use the shinny brass ring around your call??
Al I truly believe most guy are on your side about this case of so called copycatting because they are your friends
Al
Lets look at it this way ,, all the calls you have sold on line, can you show me a post of someone that was unhappy with the call????? Most likely not, people are just good natured and don't post bad things ..
well its the same with you posting and crying about K&H and getting all the pats on the back your getting,
case of good people saying good things no more no less :shrug:
Your now saying I dont belong in the woods because I don't agree with you :nofgr: thats funny ,
see the thing is I truly hunt predators,,,, not just talk about it on line...
Internet is a funny funny place :roflmao:I dont belong in the woods , because i disagree with someone who makes predator calls :roflmao:,, It would have made more sence comeing from a PREDATOR CALL MAKER if you told me to stay out of wood shops :roflmao:
I have a good idea why don't we start from this day on when we have something to say that is any way negative that we do it in a private message,that way we don't look like a bunch of little kids.And that way the rest of us who do have respect for other people don't have to see all of this crap all the time.
Troy,
The problem lies when we don't think we were, or did not intend to be negative.
I made a joke, an honest joke about Al "sniping my idea".
Even if it was ill timed, for Al, I think it's a good one (ironic funny, sarcastic funny, and just plain funny funny).
I tried to be supportive, but I doubt anything I said was received that way.
You can't reason with a kid with his fingers in his ears screaming "LA LA LA LA! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!" :nono:
Not even by private message.
Krusty (http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/wave1.gif)
P.S. Not until I saw this subject come up on another board, and then read this thread, did I ever lay eyes on a "Bonker".
Anybody a NASCAR fan?
Saying these two calls are the same is like saying a Stock car and a showroom Monte Carlo are the same...
Yeah buddy, on the outside they're both Chevrolets, but not under the hood, not the way you use them, and NOT THE WAY THEY SOUND!
Krusty
I don't never get into crap like this it is just not me,I am probably the easy going guy you would ever meet.But you just get tired of seeing this crap all the time.Just like you did with your last post about a little kid,that was a jab and about 95% of the people on this forum just get tired of that crap because it turn into a shit storm and we have to put up with it.All I am asking is from now on if we feel we have to jab one another or be negitive, do it in a private message.Jim I think you should make this a rule you can call it FnF rule #69
Troy
Troy,
I didn't think it was a jab, I thought it was a joke. (see the laughing smilie?)
Al flat out refused to read my post, there's no talking to him... I think the way he's behaving is funny, and I don't care if you don't get my sense of humor.
To answer Rodney, and you, "No, we can't, all get along"... so get over it.
Life's just not fair.
Krusty (http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/wave1.gif)
5 %
rule #69? :laf: You mean rule #2 and I forgot what #1 was.
Don't let Krusty bother ya, he has a history of being abrasive. Whether or not it's intentional... :shrug:
Jim,
Yeah, I'm the bad guy here. :eyebrownod:
Yer right, I think I been here before.
Krusty (http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/wave1.gif)
Oh... yippee, a few more posts, and I'll actually BE ABLE TO SEND a private message... :huh:
Oh Krusty don't bother me,but that little guy with his hand waving next to his name now that is annoying
There's somethin' wrong with you if you don't like smilies? :rolleye:
Krusty (psst, hey Rico S'wavie, the man says he don't like you.) (http://www.traps4kids.com/Thud.gif)
I look at the K&H call and I think Bonker!! I believe it looks like it and do I believe they copied it, YES. I do agree with Ladobe that we are all just playing with designs of the past and none of us invented our calls 100%. If you honestly look at all the goose, duck, predator calls, and others the shape may be the same or similar, but it is the sound and the subtleties that make the difference.You can buy a chunk of plastic and rubber that looks like a bonker, but it will never and I mean NEVER hold a candle to the craftsmanship, finish, and sound of a TRUE bonker!!!!
If you want to see a couple of calls that have been copied over and over by custom call makers and production call makers, look at turkey slates and turkey box calls . Now those are overcopied by everyone!!
Kuipdog
Maybe they should have done an internet search to find out if someone was already making that style of call?? Naahhh that would have been to easy!!! (heavy sarcasm here!!)
Wow :holdon: , for a minute there I thought this was one of those western forums I used to read on a few years ago. Ok maybe I'll wakeup and find it was only a :whew: dream. Al and George , if i didnt know better I'd swear you two were brothers.
Btw Al I too can see where your coming from on that copied call. Ok back to my hole .
Jeb
AL,
I believe they stole the Bonker and I sent them a letter.
I hope someday to be half the call maker you are and if you need anything else just name it.
Someone has clearly stolen this idea and it is a moral tragedy I feel it is probably some so called pro staffer trying to make a name for himself or an engineer right out of school that has not learned any real morals yet. Your work speaks more than any hot air in any forum.
Don't jump to conclusions about Yotehunter74 because he is a pro staffer for K & H. He told me that the call was already a prototye when he started with them. I believe him. He is a member here, and a fellow call maker so I have to give him the benefit of doubt.
George, maybe someday you can come up and I can show you around my wood shop and maybe someday I can come down and you can show me around the woods ????
Krusty - you will always be Krusty.
LALALALLAALALALALLLALALLALLALALALAL I CAN'T HERE YOU :bowingsmilie: just kidding of course.
Al
KRUSTY? ABRASIVE? :doh2: :roflmao:
I believe Krusty was one of the first ones I ever sparred with on the www. I took stuff personal back then....... :eyebrownod:
Krusty is just krusty. He's made a profession on the web being the devil's advocate.........God love 'em. :wink:
I've read his nonsense for years, but learned several years ago not to engage in them..........different ways of thinking can never align well enough to even understand the differences. I guess I just broke my own rule. Oh well........he'll say something I guess. Then I'll go back to not taking any of this crap to serious............ :yahoo:
By the way guys. I woke up this morning missing one of my nuts. If you see one rolling around that's the size of a grapefruit would you mind calling me and letting me know where he's lurking. Whatever you do, don't pick him up. It takes a heck of a man to pack him around........ ;yes; :laugh2:
Size of a grapefruit? :roflmao:
I'm sure it just got lost in the carpeting. May find it in the vacuum cleaner bag.
Hey bopeye now you are 1/2 nuts.
Al,
True enough... I will always be me, that doesn't mean I'm always right, or wrong, though.
Looks like I'm not alone in that, you're still you, dude. :hahaha: :argh:
It's a weird "friendship" you and I have...
At least both of us still have our senses of humor. :wink:
Bopeye,
Do I know you?
"I believe Krusty was one of the first ones I ever sparred with on the www. I took stuff personal back then......."
Doesn't sound like it went well for you, sorry man. :shrug:
Professional? I wish I had a nickle for every time I got in a scrap, and a dime for every one of you I got in one with...
Nope I'm strictly amateur, but I hope to make the big leagues someday! :eyebrownod:
Save yourself some trouble, rarely, if ever, take what I say very seriously!
Krusty (http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/wave1.gif)
Quote from: Krustyklimber on April 12, 2008, 02:42:35 PM
Bopeye,
Do I know you?
"I believe Krusty was one of the first ones I ever sparred with on the www. I took stuff personal back then......."
Doesn't sound like it went well for you, sorry man. :shrug:
Krusty (http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/wave1.gif)
It didn't go bad Krusty so don't gloat too much. :nono: We agreed to disagree back in the early days of PM.
Whether you know me or not.........it'll be okay. Don't take much of what I say serious either....... :eyebrownod:
Carry on rock climber.......carry on...... :wink:
Don't ya just love group hugs. :eyebrownod: Next Bop and Krusty will be takin warm showers together. :roflmao:
Semp
Now that's a site I don't think I'm ready for..... :sad3:
Semp and Whitehare have earned something I haven't given out in awhile.......... :biggrin:
BITE ME!!!
Bopeye,
I wasn't gloating, you said you took it personal... and to me, that's not well, no matter the outcome.
I'll say it again, sorry.
That's not bragging, it's called an apology.
Take it or leave it.
Semp,
I don't do hugs... my mom gets one, on Mother's Day, if she's lucky ...and that's it!
So I definitely don't do group hugs... :noway:
Krusty (http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/wave1.gif)
It's been four or five years now Krusty, so I can assure you I'm over it. :sneer:
However, if that's your idea of an apology you can stick it in your ass......... :biggrin:
Now go ahead and run that piehole some more. I figured if you were gonna keep running your damn mouth I'd give you a reason....... :eyebrow: :roflmao:
Oh and you can BITE ME on top of that......... :yahoo: :laugh2:
Well, looks like the group hugs and the warm showers are over. :roflmao:
We're back to normal. :biggrin:
Semp
QuoteBy the way guys. I woke up this morning missing one of my nuts. If you see one rolling around that's the size of a grapefruit
You really otta see the Dr about that Bop!! :laf: :laf: Unless you got grape
FRUIT & grape
NUTS confused again!! :roflmao: :roflmao:
Sorry Bop!! This is your story & you can tell it any way you want buddy!! :biggrin:
:roflmao: :roflmao:
It was something along those lines.......... :laf:
Been looking in the vacuum bag like Jimbo suggested....... :biggrin:
"It's been four or five years now Krusty, so I can assure you I'm over it. "
Really? Then why did you even mention it, and why can't you let it go? :hahaha:
Krusty (http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/wave1.gif)
That's LAME. Try again. :roflmao: :laugh2: :yahoo:
I feel like I have made the grade now...
My own personal ......
Quote from: Bopeye on April 12, 2008, 06:34:34 PM
Semp and Whitehare have earned something I haven't given out in awhile.......... :biggrin:
BITE ME!!!
Thanks Bop. :thumb2:
Anytime Whitehare...........glad ya made it Kiddo..... :wink: :laf: :highclap:
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Quote from: coyotehunter_1 on April 13, 2008, 01:50:15 PM
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Is there some way we can attach this thing to all of Krusty's posts. Just so folks know ahead of time. :thumb2: :yahoo: :laugh2:
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: @ Chet's BS Meter!!!