What to do when you ask permision to hunt and?????

[outlaw]

the landowner says yah, BUT!!!!!!!!  He replies with "they arent here they are across the road".    Then in froms there is two groups of coyotes  in the area, and both just happen not to hang on his property, but then tells me they have been coming up in the yard at night and hauling his geese away.  On a regular basis. 

He then proceeeds to tell me calling them in wont work, coyotes in this area dont respond to calls.  The DNR was here and they didnt do a thing either.  One guy was out 3-4 years ago, and called 3 though. 

He just seemed like he said yes, but was trying to politely say, keep the heck outta my land.  I realize he gave me some good tips.  He seemed to know where they traveled all seasons of the year.  Maybe his property is just a travel lane, but I need it to access where possibly one group is...   Anybody got any good one liners for me to seal the deal????  I guess my plan of attack now is to go back in a week or two and try again. 

Below is the tracts of land I am trying to get on.   Its about 4 miles long and 1-2 wide... I am trying to get permission to all of it.  Portions of it are WPA land, and I suspect with hunting pressures they are not bedding down there.  I have not done much in depth scouting yet, just been watching for movement.  It is still muzzleloader season and I havent wanted to disrupt someones hunt. I would really like to get permission for the whole area and do some in depth scouting.

The Blue box is on the border of a large WPA.  I talked to a deer hunter there the other day he said that he was seeing a pair of yotes walk by his spot everynight he hunted.

The Red box is a cousins land.

The yellow box has a lot of variation in terrain.  The dark green blob at the top is actually a large grouping of cedars, that the yotes are supposedly hanging out in.

The green box is the piece of land I was trying to gain access today.  The farmer owns a large portion on the left side of the box.  The bottm right where the the lake is, happens to be WPA.  He said another group was hanging out over in that direction.   

[coyotehunter_1]

I seldom have problems getting permission to hunt coyotes but if the property owner does hesitate I leave a card and ask them to call me if they change their mind.  If he said yes then I would give it a go... a few times anyway.
You never know... there maybe more coyotes living on the property than the landowner suspects. Hauling his geese away? Maybe a goose in distress?    

[outlaw]

yah, I was wondering the same thing, on the goose distress.  You should see the place, looks like a cross between a vehicle and implement junk yard.  There was geese, chickens and cows everywhere.   He says they have hauled away 13 of his geese in the last year.   Like I said, he said yes, but did everything he could to talk me out of it.  Gave me a bad feeling. 

I think, I am gonna wait a week or so, and stop again.  Tell him hey, I am gonna give it a shot, and if I waist my time, I waist my time.  It was one of those places that I pulled in and just thought here I go. 

[Bills Custom Calls]

Hey give it a try let us know what happens.

If you try you might get one if you dont try you wont.




Bill

[outlaw]

Ohhh I will give it a try, even if I get permission all the way around his property.   All I know is, I have become addicted to yote hunting in a big hurry.  Its on my mind when I wake up all the way till I go to bed.  Thinking of setup points and land I should be getting permission to hunt.  I fall asleep with it on my mind.  Shoot the other night there was a coyote howling in one of my dreams.

[nailbender]

[quote    Shoot the other night there was a coyote howling in one of my dreams.
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:roflmao:Uhoh! this boy's got it bad!
   Careful now!  Did you ever hear the legend of the black fox with the fur so fine, every man that chased it went completely out his mind. Same applys to coyotes!

[studabaka]

In NC, sealing the deal is pretty clear because the regs call for you to have written permission to trap or hunt with a centerfire rifle on someones property. I made up a standard form and keep a few blanks and a pen with me. I also make sure they have my name, address, and cell number.

[outlaw]

We dont have that law here., but I think that is a good idea.  We got ourselves in trouble one time pheasant hunting.  We had been hunting a spot for about 5 years, and went back to ask permission.  The gentlemen gave us permission again, and as we were hunting a guy stopped..  Well, he gave us permission for something that wasnt even his.... woulda been nice to have something signed to show we actually asked someone.  I think the guy believed us though, cause he told us to finish the hunt, and next time to come to him for permission....

[blakcoyote]

When they call me to come and trap and hunt coyotes on there property,I say sure,no problem.