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Started by FinsnFur, September 01, 2013, 10:46:50 PM

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FinsnFur

Whats the trick to keep the overflow from freezing up?
I've been doing some searching but I'm not quite finding what I need?
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Todd Rahm

I'm not sure I'm understanding what ya mean? Like a big pond?

FinsnFur

Yeah a big spring fed pond.  If you let it spill over it'll eventually erode away the dam. Their are piping techniques but I'm not sure how to keep it from freezing and either busting the pipe or plugging and over flowing.

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Todd Rahm

I'm not gona be much help, but I did just see that exact setup at a lake back home.

KySongDog

I asked my best buddy (Google  :biggrin: ) about this and he told me about a "tote box" that runs on a 60w light bulb and seems to do the job.

http://forum.aquascapeinc.com/showthread.php/4994-Tote-Box-Heater?highlight=tote

Carolina Coyote

There is a method they use in Georgia now to prevent the Beavers from stopping up the overflow pipe, The pipe is all under water and  crosses over the dam at the level you want the water to be and works like a siphon when the water level gets to a certain point it flows through the pipe and I don't think it would freeze the way it is designed, I don't have a drawing but will see if I can find out more. cc

bigben

The picture you have is the way all of em around here are done.
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FinsnFur

Semp, how do they power the bulb out in the middle of the woods?

Carl...does the siphon system look like this?
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KySongDog

Quote from: FinsnFur on September 04, 2013, 07:00:22 PM
Semp, how do they power the bulb out in the middle of the woods?



:shrug:   When you said "farm" pond I was thinking it was near barns, buildings, etc.   If you are talking a farm pond in the middle of the woods, well, I guess one would need a very long extension cord.   :eyebrownod:   



FinsnFur

Ohhh LOL :laf: I said farm pond to give a respectful size reference
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Carolina Coyote

Jim, That is the Siphon system, it is very effective in keeping the Beavers from stopping up the drain and as you can see it takes the overflow from the bottom of the lake so it should also prevent the overflow from freezing, I talked with the guy that installed a couple on our Hunt club and he said he has trouble keeping up with the demand for installing them in ponds in Georgia, he just very recently installed them in the ponds at the hunt club so have not had much time to evaluate the results yet. cc

KySongDog

That might work better than a 60watt light bulb.   ;yes;

Hawks Feather

I can't think of anything worse than having my drain stopped up by a beaver.    :sad3:

Jerry

FinsnFur

yeah, what Jerry said :doh2:

Were trying to figure out how to keep the drainage end from freezing. The pond will be fed by a trickling spring which means there wont be a lot of water coming out once it's full, making it more prone to freezing in this Wisconsin temps.
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Carolina Coyote

Jim, I would take the Beaver problem into consideration and they are a problem, you just can not totally eliminate them, we are constantly trying to battling them, In one pond the over flow pipe is like the the one in your first Drawing , the water at the overflow area was about 7 foot deep and them rascals pushed in enough mud and sticks  up around the overflow pipe and finally stopped up the overflow, If they can hear the water flowing they will figure out a way to stop it,Where you found the drawing on the siphon system may have more info about freezing up. cc

KySongDog

Quote from: Hawks Feather on September 05, 2013, 02:38:36 PM
I can't think of anything worse than having my drain stopped up by a beaver.    :sad3:

Jerry

Beavers are tricky devils.  Back a few years ago I used to hunt for beavers.  When I found one I would plug up its hole.  The small ones were always the best.   Big beaver holes took a lot of work and I never felt like I was satisfied with the result.   A really bad beaver could definitely stop up your drain. 

Dave

Quote from: Semp on September 07, 2013, 05:25:06 AM

Beavers are tricky devils.  Back a few years ago I used to hunt for beavers.  When I found one I would plug up its hole.  The small ones were always the best.   Big beaver holes took a lot of work and I never felt like I was satisfied with the result.   A really bad beaver could definitely stop up your drain.
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You just may need larger pipe, Semp. 

KySongDog

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