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Title: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: Okanagan on January 31, 2021, 09:11:21 PM
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Seems like I posted some pics of arm casts and stitches, etc. in the past few years.  Here again.

That folding pull saw Nasty likes so well cut me pretty good over a week ago.  A limb on a sagging alder sapling scraped my vehicle pretty good, so I hopped out to cut the limb.  Quck small cut, didn't put on gloves.  Springy limb, the big saw teeth caught so I yanked it and slammed the saw down into my finger on the off hand, with the blade sawing toward me.

First look, “Maybe I will wrap that and head home.”  Second look, “Maybe a pro should decide if it needs sewing.”

I had a first aid kit under the seat but quick wrapped it in a blue shop towel from a roll on the seat.  By the second towel bleeding slowed.  I drove to cell range and phoned our family doc.  They could get me in within an hour and a half so I went for that.  Stopped by home, dropped a rifle, switched to vehicle with auto trans and had a grandson duct tape the blue towel in place.

Two hours working on it, nine stitches. How dumb can a man get who knows better, than to put his off hand in line with a cutting edge tool?

The saw.  The blade. Shaky pic five days after the cut.  Not sure why they left long ends on the sewing stitches.

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Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: FinsnFur on January 31, 2021, 10:19:37 PM
Ooooowwwwwwchh!!!
Oh oh man there's no way that didn't go to the Bone. Great big jagged saw on a soft little finger. I bet it had no problems at all ripping through that. That's going to leave a mark Clyde.

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Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: Okanagan on February 01, 2021, 01:16:08 AM
Yep, some bone chips cleaned out along with wood chips cleaned out before sewing it up.



Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: nastygunz on February 01, 2021, 04:09:42 AM
 I'm scared to use mine now  :huh:  that looks painful.
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: Hawks Feather on February 01, 2021, 07:57:29 AM
I guess I am now glad that I live in town so I don't need to cut any limbs.  That does look like a major cut and from the amount of time they worked on it, it is.
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: nastygunz on February 01, 2021, 08:34:03 AM
 As a testament to the saw they really do cut like hell ! :innocentwhistle:
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: remrogers on February 01, 2021, 10:11:12 AM
Bet you used some words not "fit for family time".
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: pitw on February 01, 2021, 12:50:06 PM
It'd been easier to just cut the dang digit off.  We were born with too many anyway. :laught17:
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: nastygunz on February 01, 2021, 04:28:17 PM
 All you really need is your thumb and one finger  :wink:
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: Okanagan on February 01, 2021, 07:14:48 PM
All you really need is your thumb and one finger  :wink:

...and a third hand once in awhile to put in the cotter key, etc.   :biggrin:

Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: HaMeR on February 01, 2021, 08:00:55 PM
Dang Clyde!! That coulda been real bad!! I'm glad it wasn't!!
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: nastygunz on February 01, 2021, 09:03:10 PM
 We veterans know all about teamwork! 🇺🇸🇺🇸

All you really need is your thumb and one finger  :wink:

...and a third hand once in awhile to put in the cotter key, etc.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: msmith on February 02, 2021, 03:44:59 AM
Owchie! That saw sure done a number on the ol booger hook for sure. I'm likin' that saw though. Looks like it would make a nice Christmans/birthday gift...for someone else. I'm not allowed to have sharp objects  :innocentwhistle:
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: Okanagan on February 02, 2021, 11:11:34 AM
Owchie! That saw sure done a number on the ol booger hook for sure. I'm likin' that saw though. Looks like it would make a nice Christmans/birthday gift...for someone else. I'm not allowed to have sharp objects  :innocentwhistle:

If you put it on a gift list, make it a Silky saw rather than the Corona one pictured.  More expensive but a far better saw.

 I got a Silky Pocketboy several years ago and carry it in my hunting daypack to trim calling stands etc.  I broke the blade on it last year and bought the Corona pictured for $14.  The Corona has bigger more aggressive teeth, good for cutting stiff limbs 2 inches or more in diameter, but too big of teeth for trimming the average small limbs I need to cut.  It grabs and pulls the springy limbs rather than cuts.  I think if I'd been using a Silky saw it would have cut the limb rather than grabbed and then cut me when I stupidly yanked it to free the bind.

Since this accident I broke down and bought a medium tooth replacement blade for my Silky.  $20 for the blade alone, about $40 for a new Silky saw.

Silky saw?  Japanese give odd names to stuff.  The most popular soft drink in Japan recently was "Pocari Sweat"  :shrug:

 
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: msmith on February 02, 2021, 02:08:11 PM


  The most popular soft drink in Japan recently was "Pocari Sweat"  :shrug:

 

Sounds delicious  :puke:
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: nastygunz on February 02, 2021, 05:49:20 PM
 The branches under an inch I just use my teeth  :innocentwhistle:

Owchie! That saw sure done a number on the ol booger hook for sure. I'm likin' that saw though. Looks like it would make a nice Christmans/birthday gift...for someone else. I'm not allowed to have sharp objects  :innocentwhistle:

If you put it on a gift list, make it a Silky saw rather than the Corona one pictured.  More expensive but a far better saw.

 I got a Silky Pocketboy several years ago and carry it in my hunting daypack to trim calling stands etc.  I broke the blade on it last year and bought the Corona pictured for $14.  The Corona has bigger more aggressive teeth, good for cutting stiff limbs 2 inches or more in diameter, but too big of teeth for trimming the average small limbs I need to cut.  It grabs and pulls the springy limbs rather than cuts.  I think if I'd been using a Silky saw it would have cut the limb rather than grabbed and then cut me when I stupidly yanked it to free the bind.

Since this accident I broke down and bought a medium tooth replacement blade for my Silky.  $20 for the blade alone, about $40 for a new Silky saw.

Silky saw?  Japanese give odd names to stuff.  The most popular soft drink in Japan recently was "Pocari Sweat"  :shrug:

 
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: HaMeR on February 02, 2021, 06:22:57 PM
The branches under an inch I just use my teeth  :innocentwhistle:



 :hahaha: Or whoever they used to belong to anyway.




I looked at one of those pull saws today for the turkey vest. It wasn't the same brand as the one you used but it was just as aggressive tooth wise. I put it back on the hook and was hoping somebody made a finer tooth saw. Apparently they do so I'll be looking into the Silky's. Thank You for bringing up your old saw & the replacement blades for them.


Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: Okanagan on February 02, 2021, 11:08:39 PM
Silky has 3 grades of saw teeth:  coarse, medium and fine. I was tempted to get the fine, and would if it was mainly for cutting bone, but went with medium.  I wish it was a little less coarse but it cuts small stuff well.

 
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: nastygunz on February 02, 2021, 11:35:45 PM
 Get a machete !
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: pitw on February 03, 2021, 09:27:37 AM
Get a machete !

Think of the toes. :doh2:
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: nastygunz on February 03, 2021, 04:15:08 PM
 All you really need is your big toe for traction  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: HaMeR on February 06, 2021, 12:02:04 PM
Thanks Clyde!!  :bowingsmilie:
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: FinsnFur on February 07, 2021, 11:12:12 AM
All you really need is your big toe for traction 
Omg ,

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Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: Okanagan on February 07, 2021, 03:27:42 PM
Hamer, I saw a Bahco brand folding pruning saw in our local hardware store yesterday that had what looked to me like the ideal small pruning teeth, triangular teeth about 3/16 deep rather than the long aggressive teeth.  It was longer overall than the Silky, but would fit easily in a pack or large pocket.  My Silky is the smallest Pocket Boy, 130 mm.  I carry a ratchet bypass pruning shear as well as the saw and use it to cut anything under about half an inch diameter, and have cut limbs to an inch thick with it. 

Be assured that my only concern is to improve the environment by cutting gaps to see through or shoot through and cutting branches to build a hiding place, where nature was lacking.
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: Hawks Feather on February 07, 2021, 04:36:59 PM
Be assured that my only concern is to improve the environment by cutting gaps to see through or shoot through and cutting branches to build a hiding place, where nature was lacking.

Hopefully no one here is the least bit concerned about you trimming some trees. Now if you do it with a bulldozer in the Redwood forest that might be a different story.   :rolleye:

As a side note: Eat a beaver and save a tree!   :yoyo:    :yoyo:    :yoyo:
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: pitw on February 07, 2021, 05:33:44 PM
Even out here on the prairie I'd let you cut trees as them buggers grow way to fast.
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: nastygunz on February 07, 2021, 07:18:01 PM
 You could prune trees for the rest of your life here and it wouldn't even make a dent, New Hampshire is 95% forested  :yoyo: Bahcos are pretty good.  Best wood pruner is a tomahawk and they look cool  :biggrin:

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Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: HaMeR on February 09, 2021, 07:02:24 AM
Hamer, I saw a Bahco brand folding pruning saw in our local hardware store yesterday that had what looked to me like the ideal small pruning teeth, triangular teeth about 3/16 deep rather than the long aggressive teeth.  It was longer overall than the Silky, but would fit easily in a pack or large pocket.  My Silky is the smallest Pocket Boy, 130 mm.  I carry a ratchet bypass pruning shear as well as the saw and use it to cut anything under about half an inch diameter, and have cut limbs to an inch thick with it. 

Be assured that my only concern is to improve the environment by cutting gaps to see through or shoot through and cutting branches to build a hiding place, where nature was lacking.







Thanks again Ok! I'm looking for a small folder that will fit in the box call pocket on my turkey vest. Not sure I'll find a good one that small. If I don't then I'll look into your suggestions. Right now where I turkey hunt it's just getting THICK. The hand pruners still work but the branches are getting a little heavy for them now.
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: Hawks Feather on February 09, 2021, 08:48:20 AM
Glen,
Buck made a model 428 that had interchangeable blades.  I can't remember for sure if they made a bone saw blade for it or not.  I have a couple of the 428s but the closest blade to a saw was the serrated one - which like most other serrated blades can do a puncture in your finger in nothing flat.   :iroll:  I think that I read that somewhere because and it couldn't have happened to me - recently.
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: HaMeR on February 10, 2021, 04:34:04 AM
Yeah I'm purdy certain they're all gonna be a meat grinder if given the opportunity. I'll look those up to Jerry!! Thank You!
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: HaMeR on March 19, 2021, 01:15:07 PM
I just picked up a SharkSaw Pullsaw for landscaping. 7 1/2" blade with 12TPI. Comes with a sheath and folds to 9 3/4".  It fits in my turkey vest in the box call pocket nicely. I picked it up at Woodcraft for $14 which was 1/2 price. This saw has a blade replacement # etched into the blade as well.   

I have a pine limb on the ground out back. It took 9 pulls to get thru approximately 1 1/2" being gently aggressive. This saw demands at least 6" of respect for the offhand.

Thank You all for your time and i sincerely hope you've had a good recovery Ok!! 👍👍
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: nastygunz on March 19, 2021, 03:30:06 PM
 There are a couple of companies that make handles  that take Sawzall blades.
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: HaMeR on March 24, 2021, 05:52:58 PM
I have one of those somewhere but mine doesnt fold. When I put it in my vest I sure as hell don't want those teeth sticking out!! I think I'm gonna like this saw.
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: nastygunz on March 24, 2021, 07:55:08 PM
https://youtu.be/jPzqpUgtHSU
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: nastygunz on March 24, 2021, 08:04:32 PM
https://youtu.be/5oRtfpxgOZg
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: Okanagan on March 24, 2021, 10:57:50 PM
Good find!  Thanks for posting that video.  The saw with the carbide Sawzall in the video is terrific.  Except that, like HaMer said, it does not fold the teeth out of the way when carrying it.  It has to fold for my use.  I have a big bow saw and a chain saw in the vehicle so these small saws are mostly for carrying away from a vehicle.

I am thinking of cobbling up one of those Sawzall units myself, and adding a scabbard or sleeve of some kind to cover the teeth when disassembled.  I have a fiberglass tube from the handle on a worn out rake that might do for the saw handle.   I don't plan to backpack it much, though I carry a small folding saw when hunting.  Some 25 years ago I fixed up a light weight compass saw and made a light sheath for it to keep the teeth from cutting stuff in my pack, and carried it on some serious backpack hunts.  The saw in the video is much better. 
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: nastygunz on March 24, 2021, 11:27:28 PM
 It does have a blade guard to cover the teeth when transporting. Generally for hunting I prefer a blade like my Fiskars hatchet or my tomahawk just for cutting small branches and clearing shooting paths and stuff like that I also have a pair of ratcheting pruners.  Saws generally work better for camping type activities where you're cutting firewood.  I also always carry a roll of camouflage para cord and a lot of times if theres branches in my way where I'm sitting I will just pull it back and tie it off to the tree or sometimes tie it off and make a field blind out of it.  There's plenty of options out there and there's always the option of like when I was a kid hunting if there was a branch in the way I would grab it with my hands and break it ha ha.
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: HaMeR on March 28, 2021, 09:20:03 AM
The Stihl saw would be good if I owned land. Hunting public land is different. I only cut a very minimum of branches. I do like the sawzall blade holder a lot. I can see it being useful in roofing & construction from time to time as well.
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: nastygunz on April 02, 2021, 12:18:26 PM
https://youtu.be/YHVcFtfxEzY
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: HaMeR on April 02, 2021, 04:20:41 PM
Thats a nice looking saw for sure. Great for around the house and if I owned land. That saw tooth configuration was used to build America!
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: nastygunz on April 02, 2021, 06:19:56 PM
 I knew how to run one end of a buck saw cutting firewood when I was a kid 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: Hawks Feather on April 02, 2021, 08:58:33 PM
Neat looking saw.  Bass Pro lists it as 'out of stock' and Amazon had a listing saying that it is 'currently unavailable'.  Tex Sport does have them, but you have to buy 24 saws for $239.00.  Heck of a deal for $10.00 per saw, but what do you do with 24 of them?
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: FinsnFur on April 02, 2021, 09:30:04 PM
Sell them on Amazon :laf:
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: nastygunz on April 02, 2021, 11:01:55 PM
Group buy!
Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: Okanagan on April 03, 2021, 01:28:05 PM
I will demure. The saw looks great in the video as assembled on a shop table, not so good as I think of field use in places like the Seven Devils area of Hell's Canyon.   Double the caution in rain forest.  The saw has too many separate parts to lose in our deep rainy ground cover on steep slopes, or lose in snow, especially if assembling the saw with cold hands in the dark.  I’d not depend on such a saw even near my vehicle.  I don’t backpack far from roads anymore,  but I am so prone to lose or misplace small parts, not to mention possible breakage, that this saw is not for me.

Title: Re: 9 stitches but I'm not accident prone
Post by: nastygunz on April 03, 2021, 05:44:18 PM
"Tomahawk!".... :biggrin: