went for a ride to take pic's... trying to learn the camera
cock bird in flight
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/TeamDuban/rsz_dscf1088.jpg)
sunset mountain
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/TeamDuban/DSCF1089.jpg)
These were taken with the digital zoom, very grainy...
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/TeamDuban/DSCF1090.jpg)
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/TeamDuban/DSCF1093.jpg)
The digital zoom on my camera is also very grainy and is of no practical use!
Jim
What camera do you have?
Jerry
Kodak Easy Share C533. It only has a 3 x optical zoom. It does fine as long as I don't zoom in beyond the optical zoom. I have often thought I would like a better camera with a better more powerful optical zoom, but that requires a larger and more complex camera and this one fits easily in my shirt pocket so I have stuck with it?? I post lots of pictures and it seems to do OK for most of them.
Jim
Same here but mine's a Fuji pocket sized. I got it for hunting photo's and what not. I dont expect it to run up there with the good ones but I was just playing to see what she'd do.
There are advantages and disadvantages in all cameras. Some are light/easy to carry and lack telephoto quality while others are heavy/difficult to carry/expensive and have pretty good telephoto quality. I have a Sony point and shoot that has served me well, but no where close to the quality of the Canon SLR. But I have a backpack for the SLR and the Sony slips into my pocket. I would hate to take the Canon on a hunt.
Jerry
I carry a Kodak EZ Share C330. It works good for what we do as hunters in the field. Diane has a Sony CyberShot that we take the groundhog videos with. I wouldn't carry that one either. It's just too big. I think for what we do these small digital cameras are the way to go.
Best thing to do is save the picture with the best quality you can, bigger the better. Then when you want to zoom in on what your taking the pic of you do it later with the computer. Just crop in and enlarge what your wanting to look at. It will work a little better than the digital zoom. It will still get grainy or pixalated when you go to far but you can go more than the digital zoom usually.
Only good way to use the digital zoom is on a tripod. A window mount is a great help. They just clamp to your window with a thumb screw. roll the window down a bit clamo the mount and snap pictures. I havent seen one in awhile but I havnt looked real hard.
Well after a quick search on ebay I found a great many. bunch of suction cup type and some clamp type. I would think the suction cup type would be more versatel. There cheap too. Most under 10 bucks and some under $5.
I use a Canon power shot A550 on my hunting forays and a Kodak EasyShare DX7590 for other times. Neither one can overcome my shakiness :doh2:. The fellow from Iceland had a Leica that was the most amazing camera I have seen. It comes down to what you want in life I guess :shrug:. This fellow is as broke as any of us[he picked worms to pay his way over] but his optics were top of the line.
I just picked up a Panasonic SDR-S26 video camera. It has 70X optical zoom. I haven't tried it out yet but the reviews look good.
Leica is one of the top names in lenses. Ya got to remember a camera is just a box with a hole in it. I don't care if its a digital or a film camera. You still pass light through a lens.
My Daughter has a Sony cybershot that has a setting that wont take the picture till they are smiling. It is a very nice camera I will be getting myself one of those when my present Nikon cool pix dies.
I had a camera lens for ya Barry. Had gyro-stabilisation on it. Very expensive tho. I think the lens I used was about 15grand but that was a long time ago. You can get them a lot cheeper now maybe $1,500 might get used even cheeper.
My brother is BIG into photography. He finally twisted my arm and ear to the point that I'm about to pull the trigger on a new and improved setup.
Leaning heavily towards the new Canon EOS 7D and a 100-400mm Canon zoom for taking pics of wildlife. Just need to save some more pennies. :laf:
Fos,
I will be looking forward to your review of the 100-400. Even at the 4.5 it looks like a great long distance lens. What lens are you planning to get for closer work?
Jerry
I'm still mulling it over!
I'm leaning towards the:
16-35 f/2.8L IS for landscapes
Debating between the:
24-70 f/2.8L or Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 for general use
Have read some high praise for the Tamron, and the pictures I've seen taken with the lens looks real good.... and at 1/3 the cost of the Canon....
I'm currently looking at a gently used Canon 40D and adding one of the general use lens above in addition to the 100-400 to start.
My brother told me he prefers the 300mm F/4L IS with or without a 1.4x teleconverter over the 100-400mm as it's a bit sharper...... Hard to decide as the versatility of the zoom looks practical... :confused:
I have a Tamaron 18-200 f1:3.5-6.3 on my Fuji finepix S2 pro nikon mount. Not sure if I like the Tamaron. It drags when focusing sometimes. Makes it louder than I like and slow to focus.
It is a nice length for general work. Good on landscape and a dicent enough zoom. the quality is there for my prints. Good focus across the entire FOV.
Fos,
You need to spend a few days here: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/index.php
It becomes habit forming and some of the pictures are unbelievable. I can spend hours in the bird and animal sections. If you do a search for any lens you will find lots of things (both good and bad) being said about them.
Jerry
good stuff, keep it coming guys :yoyo:
Jerry,
Much obliged. My brother beat you to it! :eyebrownod:
I've been there for the past week sifting through posts. Considering perhaps the EF 24-105mm f/4 L for my general purpose walk about lens. The 24-70 f/2.8 L being a big lens would probably be more than I'd want for a walk about lens.
My intention is to eventually spring for a 1DMK3 or maybe the new 4 late in the year if I can save some more green backs (and sell of some hunting/shooting gear). Main reason why I'm focused primarily on the L lenses.
Vic,
I really like the first two pics. I think they turned out nice. Digital zoom is pretty much worthless as you noted that the pics turned out grainy looking.
I have a Kodak Z710. While it is a far cry from being professional grade, it takes some pretty nice pics. I am a long way from knowing how to use it to it's potential. FO and slag are speaking in Egyptian hyroglyphic kind of language to me. I'd love to know more about photography. Perhaps slag can clue us in a little more at LBL. :biggrin:
Quote from: msmith on January 23, 2010, 06:11:31 PM
Perhaps slag can clue us in a little more at LBL. :biggrin:
Little does he know about how often I'm changing the topic of conversation in our cabin :eyebrow:.
Don't feel bad or intimidated. Prior to last week it was ALL Egyptian hieroglyphics to me too! :laf:
I'm slowly learning. I think once I have my new SLR in hand my learning curve will improve and more will fall into place and make more sense.
For a point and shoot camera for hunting, I've really enjoyed my Olympus Stylus 1030SW.
Some cool features that make it excellent for the outdoors man:
Shock Proof: Designed to withstand a 6.6-foot drop, bump or other mishap.
Waterproof: Down to 33 feet! You can take pictures underwater.
Freezeproof: Down to -10c/14f
Crush Proof: Designed to withstand up to 220 pounds of pressure.
Yeah, but you have an advantage. At least you can spell hieroglyphics. :laf: I guess it's like anything. You start getting into it and you pick up the terminology and the basics as you research.
If your getting a DSLR dont forget that the fact that it is digital will multiply your focal length by 1.5 so if you have a lens that is 14mm at its lowest fp the camera will make it 21mm same on the other end. One and a half magnifacations on DSLR.
Yes, learned that was something else to keep in mind. 1.6, 1.3 crop and FF
Quote from: FOsteology on January 23, 2010, 09:23:46 PM
Yes, learned that was something else to keep in mind. 1.6, 1.3 crop and FF
Isn't it fun. I recently got a 28-135 (prime, not L) and am already thinking that it might be too much on the lower end. Trying to get more of the family in the picture is the problem. Being able to get up to 135 on the lens is nice for faces.
Jerry
I hate to say this...but you guys are feekin me out. What in the SamHill are you talking about, and is the spell checker broke or something? :doh2: :innocentwhistle:
I was poking around B&H looking at their prices for lenses..... now, I knew Canon L lenses were expensive. But just saw B&H has a USED 1200mm f/5.6L EF USM for a mere $120,000.00 :shock2:
Quote from: FOsteology on January 23, 2010, 10:03:28 PM
I was poking around B&H looking at their prices for lenses..... now, I knew Canon L lenses were expensive. But just saw B&H has a USED 1200mm f/5.6L EF USM for a mere $120,000.00 :shock2:
Did you get two :wo:.
Heck.... I couldn't afford one. Probably couldn't even afford to rent one for five minutes. :roflmao:
Fos,
Let me know when you buy that so I can take it off my "watch" list. For that sized lens to have a 5.6 is rather remarkable. Do you think it would work well for portrait work - like from several blocks away? B&H seems to have about the best prices. Sometimes there is someone else that will have a slightly better price, but then have a handling charge which makes it higher than the B&H price. Have you figured out what tripod you are getting for the 1200?
Jerry
KEH is also a good one for getting photo equipment. They have good prices as well.
best tripod out there is Bogen. got a 3012 and I love it. Little heavy but well worth it. I can do astral photography with it just by adding a sand bag.
geeks :innocentwhistle:
Nah, no tripod. I mean heck, it only weighs 35 or 36 pounds.... :innocentwhistle:
I bet the lens would be good for setting ants on fire. Even at night with a quarter moon! :roflmao:
Ok, here's what I've managed to pick up on P.O.T.N. at good prices to get me started....
Canon EOS 40D (less than 15K actuations) with BG-E2n and an extra Canon battery
Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM
Need to decide on a general use lens. Thinking a faster lens for indoor (family, school, etc.). The EF 24-70mm f/2.8L seems to fit the bill, but geez it's a BRICK! Doesn't have IS either....
The EF 24-105mm f/4L IS is a contender..... but I hear that it performs much better on a FF. Plus, with it being a f/4 , I think I should look for a faster lens.
The EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM seems to be the best compromise (not to mention tailor made for a crop camera...much better focal range)..... however, the lens is pretty costly for being a non-L lens. I'm think spending the small (relatively speaking) price increase to the 24-70L makes more sense. :confused:
I suppose for me, it's all head games and second guessing at this point! :laf:
Fos,
If you start looking at flash units you might as well get the 580 and be done. I have the 430 and also the 580 and the 430 is usually in the bag.
Your camera and lens look like new so you will be having a good time with them.
As for a general indoor shooting lens the 17-55 looks really good.
Slag,
I have the Manfrotto/Bogen 3012 legs and they are like a tank and don't move. If I were a hiker I think I would be looking at the carbon.
Jim,
You probably already know more about photography than the three of us put together. After all you are the leader of the GEEK squad.
Jerry
QuoteJim,
You probably already know more about photography than the three of us put together. After all you are the leader of the GEEK squad.
Jerry
:doh2: The GEEK Squad Pro Staff!! :rolleye:
:laf: :laf:
Wow! We should have lots of good pictures from LBL!!
Jim
Quote from: Hawks Feather on January 24, 2010, 10:08:04 PM
Fos,
If you start looking at flash units you might as well get the 580 and be done.
It's on my list!
Decided to go with the EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS after all. Seeing as how I have a 40D in route and thinking about a 1D 3or4 down the road, just seems to be the best one out there for a crop.