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Title: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: alscalls on February 27, 2010, 05:00:06 AM
http://www.billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/WoodToxicityTable.cfm (http://www.billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/WoodToxicityTable.cfm)
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: HaMeR on February 27, 2010, 07:41:29 AM
Thanks Al. I'm gonna keep that link.  :wink:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: pitw on February 27, 2010, 08:23:00 AM
So where on the list was this one, EH.
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh145/pitw75/LBL%20TRIP/LBL171.jpg)

That there tree taught me a lot. :whew:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: Todd Rahm on February 27, 2010, 08:34:46 AM
Yeah, you won't lean up against that one to get your "Butt Crack Pro Staff" patch.
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: John_NY on February 27, 2010, 09:13:15 AM
Quote from: Todd Rahm on February 27, 2010, 08:34:46 AM
Yeah, you won't lean up against that one to get your "Butt Crack Pro Staff" patch.

  :laf:  @ Todd                    That's funny.


John
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: alscalls on February 27, 2010, 12:06:07 PM
 :laf: :laf: :laf: :laf: :laf: :laf:

Damit HaMer.........Fix the smilies!
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: pitw on February 27, 2010, 12:16:41 PM
That FnTree is still reminding about idiots wanting to learn about trees :doh2:.  I'm wondering if my thumb is ever going to kick out your part of the country :innocentwhistle:.
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: slagmaker on February 27, 2010, 12:32:42 PM
I worked with a guy many a year ago that got some real neat colored/grained wood from some packing crates that came from Korea. He carved some really neat stuff out of it. Couple days later his hands started swelling up and he got down right bad sick. The docs were stumped until they found out he had carved some exotic wood. Turned out the wood was bad toxic. There was even a ban on that type of wood being used as crates but foreign country's don't seem to care what they ship out just what comes in.   It took Charlie a long time to get over the exposure to the toxins in that wood. He never really did get all the way over it. Seems like he became allergic to everything afterwards.
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: slagmaker on February 27, 2010, 12:49:44 PM
Barry, You still have a bit of the thorn in your finger? If you do it may need some help comming out. Take a piece of the lining from an egg shell and lay over the hole where the thorn went in. cover that with a band aid or seomthing. It shouldnt  take long and it will draw it out.

The thorns on a locust have a waxy coating that is toxic. It will need to fester a little so that it can come out. The egg shell membraine will help with that. If you would rather use something else get some "UTTER BALM". It will work even better than the egg shell. Dont know if they have it where you are at.  It works wonders drawing out poisions, infections and such. It is in a square can that is green and red and has clover all over it. Usually found in the animal medical section of your local farm supply stores.
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: Hawks Feather on February 27, 2010, 01:04:24 PM
Barry,

Slag is just trying not to get banned for using a "bad" word (utter rather than bag).  Normally it is call Bag Balm and you probably already have it.

http://www.bagbalm.com/

Jerry
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: pitw on February 27, 2010, 01:10:27 PM
Yes sir guys I got the 'Bag balm" here and I'll be putting it on right after I make sausage today.  Thanks for the tip slag and I have eggs too.  Might wait until the wife gets home to put on the balm as that always excites her with the thought I'm going to massage an ol' bag :wink:.







Where the [L] is the smiley.
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: Jimmie in Ky on February 27, 2010, 01:13:13 PM
And it will ruin a good saw chain right quick. First one I cut showered sparks the whole time and took 2 chains to get er down. When I burned the stump it burned for two weeks. Wild watching smoke come out of hte ground 20 feet from the original stump.

If ya still have it when ya come back I will be glad to operate  :eyebrownod:  And you will if'n you dont get er out now. They tend to keep on going sometimes. Jimmie
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: slagmaker on February 27, 2010, 02:29:53 PM
Might ruin a saw chain but it makes a heck of a good fire wood. Love watching it burn in the fire at the camp site..

My grandma got me to calling it utter balm when I was a kid. I have seen my mom use it on all kinds of ailements. Best drawing salve I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: HaMeR on February 27, 2010, 02:36:38 PM
Quote from: alscalls on February 27, 2010, 12:06:07 PM
:laf: :laf: :laf: :laf: :laf: :laf:

Damit HaMer.........Fix the smilies!

They aint broke Al. We were just running low & since they were coming from Washington DC & the city has been shut down we don't know when the next shipment will arrive. Sorry about the inconvenience but we did find a couple extra boxes of the  :laugh2: out back if you need em.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: alscalls on February 27, 2010, 03:10:15 PM
You know if they call a Lynch mob............ me, Dave and Bill are closest three to ya so.......
PUT THE GIGGLING SMILEY BACK UP :argh:

Jimbo said you done it so it must be true..... :innocentwhistle:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: HaMeR on February 27, 2010, 03:16:32 PM
Dave can't  catch me.  :laf:

You can't see if your glasses fall off.  :laf:

Bill will be laughing too damn hard at the two of you to remember what he was there for.  :laugh2:

I don't have the know how to make those things disappear.  :shrug: You're gonna have to talk to someone with web experience like Jim & Richard.  :wink:

And what's wrong with the little  :laugh2: dude.  :shrug:

:laf: :laf:

Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: pitw on February 27, 2010, 04:39:14 PM
HaMeR if you can get me to put up a check mark then percentages say you can do anything on a computer :wink:.  Now put the dang thing back :readthis:.
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: HaMeR on February 27, 2010, 05:48:11 PM
I didn't take it off but I'll take the blame just so another wrong person doesn't have to befall the wrath of the congregation.  :yoyo: :yoyo:

I think Bill has something to do with it.  :readthis: http://forum.finsandfur.net/index.php?topic=11487.msg129112;topicseen#new

:innocentwhistle:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: alscalls on February 28, 2010, 09:10:47 AM
Back to the............ Wood Toxicity Table

http://www.billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/WoodToxicityTable.cfm (http://www.billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/WoodToxicityTable.cfm)


I can not get this to print......  and I think I should take it to my Doctor.  :eyebrownod:
Cause I feel fine know........But every now and then I still have a spell........and they are scratching their heads over why it is happening....... I see a lot of wood on here in red that I have used recently.

If one of you fellas can........Please send me a printable version of this.....
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: HaMeR on February 28, 2010, 11:06:13 AM
 :confused: I got it to print but you'll need a magnifying glass to read it. Want me to send it?? Or just talk to your Dr & email him the link & tell him which woods you worked with on the list.
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: alscalls on February 28, 2010, 03:51:43 PM
Quote from: HaMeR on February 28, 2010, 11:06:13 AM
:confused: I got it to print but you'll need a magnifying glass to read it. Want me to send it?? Or just talk to your Dr & email him the link & tell him which woods you worked with on the list.

E-mail it to me Glen...... alscalls@yahoo.com        That would be better than nothing.  :wink:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: HaMeR on February 28, 2010, 05:24:16 PM
 :confused:  Email what I printed?  :shrug:  Or email you that link?  :shrug:  I'm kinda lost on this one Al.  :wo:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: John_NY on February 28, 2010, 05:42:54 PM
I E-mailed you a list in .txt format Al.

John
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: HaMeR on February 28, 2010, 07:29:11 PM
Thanks John. I wasn't sure what Al wanted.  :yoyo:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: alscalls on February 28, 2010, 08:37:54 PM
Thanks...
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: FinsnFur on March 02, 2010, 09:55:47 PM
If someone reminds me, I can convert that to a pdf file and make it printable or saveable, and post it. By the way does anyone know if it's copyrighted?
But I wont be able to get to it until this weekend.
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: alscalls on March 02, 2010, 10:11:08 PM
That would be awesome Jim.......cause I am still having trouble with it.
I aint stealing it I am trying to show my doctor......I dont know how to tell if its copyrighted or not..... :shrug:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: Todd Rahm on March 02, 2010, 10:53:45 PM
Al, you'll know your blowing toxic wood when your lips swell up like Angeline Jolie's.  :alscalls:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: alscalls on March 02, 2010, 10:57:24 PM
I truly think the exotics screwed up my heart........and staying away from it makes it much better..........I aint  even taking the meds. now..... :shrug:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: Todd Rahm on March 02, 2010, 11:23:34 PM
Was ya turning a particualar exotic wood at the time?
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: alscalls on March 03, 2010, 05:30:30 AM
Several...........Bocote, yew, cocobolo, Grapevine, apple, pear, blackwood, and I been cutting up all kinds of left over wood in the shop preparing for turning..... mostly drilling and preparing bands.
Some were mixed bag woods from wood craft so I really dont know for sure what they were. :confused:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: vvarmitr on March 03, 2010, 07:03:25 AM
Quote from: FinsnFur on March 02, 2010, 09:55:47 PM
If someone reminds me, I can convert that to a pdf file and make it printable or saveable, and post it. By the way does anyone know if it's copyrighted?
But I wont be able to get to it until this weekend.

Pleeeeeeeeeease,plet,plet,plet,plet,plet,pleeeeeeeease! Pretty please! :biggrin:  :biggrin:  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: slagmaker on March 03, 2010, 08:39:49 AM
YEW!!!!! that is one nasty wood!! Yeah if you were working Yew I could belive you developed problems.

I think If Jim could, it would be a real nice jesture to have that sticky/posted here on the site. If you got the wood from wood craft they may be able to supply you with something like a MSDF for any wood you are working.
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: HuntnCarve on March 03, 2010, 02:11:14 PM
Most folks know my Wood Tech background.  That being said, I've seen some terrible reactions to various woods throughout the Wood Products industry.  This is serious stuff that folks should be aware of!  I once did some testing on some wood from Cameroon Africa in the lab.  A woman working there, handled a few pieces in passing...Long story short, it made her deathly ill!  To me, it only produced hay fever like symtoms, which I shrugged off?  Was I whistling past the graveyard??  There are oils, and chemical toxins, and decay mechanisms in alot of woods.  Ingested, they pose a serious health threat! Heed the warnings if you are experiencing a reaction.
I've mentioned this story before, about overhearing a conversation at Cabelas, between a customer and a Duck call counter salesperson.  The customer was saying how a friend was in the legal process of suing a call maker for a reaction he had to a Cocobola call!  Unfreaken real!  But that's the nature of the beast.  I love the looks of Cocobola, but have sworn off using it for that very reason.   Just my two cents worth...

Dave
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: HaMeR on March 03, 2010, 03:58:30 PM
That wood toxicity table should be printed out & hung on your shop wall. Right next to the respirator. I just use dust masks but then again I don't mess with a lot of the bad woods. I even quit using coco & purdy much all Walnut. I will only make walnut pens & I wear a mask for those.
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: slagmaker on March 03, 2010, 05:12:43 PM
Have ya ever seen the after effects of a mahogany splinter? It aint perty. No, not at all. I worked in a furnature mmanufacturing facility right out of high school and learned first hand that mahogany is a nasty wood.

Cocobola is pretty and I have one call made from it. glad it is an open reed call.
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: alscalls on March 03, 2010, 07:08:49 PM
I have used walnut for many many years....I have not had any trouble that I know of.....One thing I have changed is my shop is very enclosed now and I may look into a dust collector.....when its warm out I will go outside and do a lot of my work Like I do with antler calls. My small lathe is portable and I like turning outside anyway.
Went shopping for a respirator today ....... :whew:  Lots to choose from ....... :confused:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: John_NY on March 03, 2010, 07:40:27 PM
I had to quit turning walnut until I got my respirator. That stuff was killer on me.

JOhn
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: Jimmie in Ky on March 04, 2010, 12:09:53 AM
Interesting post you should read Al . I just found it over at another board where I lurk  :biggrin:


http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/33322/t/Are-there-any-bowyers-that-suffer-from-yew-poisining.html


Check the symptoms list against your own . ia think this may be your trouble. Jimmie
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: vvarmitr on March 04, 2010, 08:31:11 AM
Eew yew! :puke:
I think I'd stick* w/ Hedgeapple for self-bows! :wink:




* no pun intended  :innocentwhistle:


Quote from: HaMeR on March 03, 2010, 03:58:30 PM
That wood toxicity table should be printed out & hung on your shop wall.
That's what I was thinking. ;yes;
Now if we can get Jimbo's butt in gear. :shrug:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: alscalls on March 04, 2010, 09:09:29 AM
Thanks for the link Jimmie!!!!

VV Jim has made it possible and I have it laminated..... :wink:
http://forum.finsandfur.net/index.php?topic=11528.0 (http://forum.finsandfur.net/index.php?topic=11528.0)
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: vvarmitr on March 05, 2010, 08:23:09 AM
 :madd: :madd: :madd:
Grrrrrrrr! I'm getting pissed! :argh:

How in the "L" do I get it to print?
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: slagmaker on March 05, 2010, 08:35:15 AM
My first thought would be use a printer.. :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: vvarmitr on March 05, 2010, 09:56:45 AM
Would help if i had some paper. :doh2:
:iroll: :rolleye: :loco:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: alscalls on March 05, 2010, 02:00:22 PM
Big Lots $3   :laf: :laf:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: HaMeR on March 05, 2010, 06:19:36 PM
Quote from: vvarmitr on March 05, 2010, 09:56:45 AM
Would help if i had some paper. :doh2:
:iroll: :rolleye: :loco:


Try the Charmin Ultra.  :laf: :laf:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: vvarmitr on March 06, 2010, 03:02:34 PM
Quote from: HaMeR on March 05, 2010, 06:19:36 PM
Quote from: vvarmitr on March 05, 2010, 09:56:45 AM
Would help if i had some paper. :doh2:
:iroll: :rolleye: :loco:


Try the Charmin Ultra.  :laf: :laf:
:shock2: You mean that'll work in the printer! Kewl!!! :biggrin:
Title: Re: Wood Toxicity Table
Post by: HaMeR on March 06, 2010, 06:45:16 PM
Like a Charmin VV!!!  :laf: :laf: