I'm gonna rant cause I'm disgusted.
my niece(sis to the one who plays softball) is 26 yrs old and has a 4 yr old daughter.
she is and has been a single parent the entire life of the child.
she announces yesterday that shes gonna go into the air force reserves, signing on for 6 yrs. i cant believe it.
why in the heck would a mother purposely sign up for something that would take her away from her child or children for extended time lots and possibly 4 ever.
i can not believe she cavalierly said, mom and dad said they'd take care of her.
IMO the military should not allow women in the military and Even then there should be very tight restrictions on where and how women can serve.
i do not think that under any circumstances they should let a single parent mom , or dad either for that matter, enlist.
who's thinking of these babies? NO ONE! a womens place is at home raising her kids and caring for her husband and i don't care if that does make me sound like a sexist. its how i was raised and its what i believe.
she should be ashamed of herself for abandoning her baby,IMO.
the up to 15 grand shes says she'll get isnt worth it,imo.
I really dont think joining the military or being in the military could make you a bad mom. I dont know your niece but either you are a good parent or your not. After her initial 3 to 6 months training she will be home except one weekend a month and two weeks out of the summer. $15,000.00 could go a long way in helping mom and the child plus she will still have her regular income from her job. If the child has a normal relationship with her grandparents and they are WILLING to help it sounds like a good move on her part. Then again, I dont know your niece or her parents full situation.
Jeb
i need to clarify one thing cause after i read it i realized it sounded like i dont think women should be inth emilitary on nny level.
i do think if theyre in nursing its a good thing but other than that i dont think they have much business in the military and definitely , inder no circumstances,imo, should women be allowed in combat. my .02
Cathryn
Do you have a job outside of the home one that pays you to work,do you have health care.These 2 things are something people are looking for and with joining the military she will have both.I see nothing wrong with women joining up they have proved that they are as capable of doing some jobs that men can.
I think it should be mandatory for all young men and women to serve this country.If I could go back 25 years I would have joined.
Quote from: Bills Custom Calls on July 02, 2010, 11:22:17 AM
I think it should be mandatory for all young men and women to serve this country.
Care to clarify that statement :holdon:.
Quote from: pitw on July 02, 2010, 01:31:31 PM
Quote from: Bills Custom Calls on July 02, 2010, 11:22:17 AM
I think it should be mandatory for all young men and women to serve this country.
Care to clarify that statement :holdon:.
Yes Barry
Once a young US citizen is done with high school the next step in their life would be to spend at least 2 years in the military.That training would do them a world of good.
Thank you. :bowingsmilie:
It kinda/sorta sounded to me like you thought every one in the world should serve your country and that just didn't seem right to me :shrug:.
God Bless your niece & I wish her the very best in her new endeavour. Sounds like she made a solid decision that she feels will help her & her Daughter.
Making mandatory military service is one of the reasons I voted against the moron in the White House right now. It is not right & never will be. That would be taking away one of the basic Freedoms of every young man and woman. The Freedom of choice.
Quote from: HaMeR on July 02, 2010, 05:08:33 PM
Making mandatory military service is one of the reasons I voted against the moron in the White House right now. It is not right & never will be. That would be taking away one of the basic Freedoms of every young man and woman. The Freedom of choice.
Children have to go to school & get free education. They don't have a choice. :nofgr:
So what if we give 'em 2 more years of education? :shrug:
God bless your niece Cathryn.
I believe she's made a good decision for her & her daughter. ;yes;
Nope. It's not schooling. It's the Military. A volunteer Military in a Free Nation.
I would say there isn't a person on this board that don't know someone that was drafted and done their time,and you would be surprised what the military could teach a person
Self Esteem,the willingness to get off the couch and do something instead of playing video games,fitness,the ability to think for themselves at a moments notice,and COMMON SENSE
I am sure there are plenty of things that I missed but that is a good place to start
I guess it taught you all that huh? :rolleye: :rolleye: Tis a shame. :rolleye: :rolleye:
My dad served 2 years active and 4 years reserve and yes I would say some of what he was taught in the service was passed on to his kids
I had 3 brothers that served and 1 brother served 8 years active and 12 in the reserves.
The reason I didn't serve was because I told the recruiter to much a heart murmur when I was 8 and when I was 16 more heart problems that nixed me from the program right away.I see nothing wrong with serving and protecting this country,and defending the rights that our forefathers fought so hard for.
Alls I'm gona say is.............GOOD FOR HER :congrats:
I didn't serve because it was my choice & I chose not to. If I had wanted to serve I would have let them find out my problems & tell me they didn't want me. All I wanted to do after high school was go to work & start living on my own. I knew I could make it without military training. I made it thru everything else up to that point with little or no help & I felt good about that & myself. I still don't think it's right for the government to force anybody into Military duty in this Country.
So what your saying is Honesty isn't the best policy and it is ok to waste the tax payers money and the military's time
If I wanted in bad enough I would have done whatever I needed to do. Spin it the way you like. You always do anyway. I'm sure at some point even you have tempted faith with an untruth. :wink:
the issue i have is with the fact shes a single mom with a child who depends on her soley for support.
she has a good job now in the ER at the local hospital.
i feel that shes maybe tired of being a mom and is looking for a way out, at her daughters expense.
I believe if anything the bond will become stronger between her & her Daughter. But this is just my opinion.
:doh2: Sorry I got sucked into the hijacking up there.
Cathryn i am old school myself and still like the idea of a wife raising the children instead of them raising themselves or paying someone else to raise their children.
Unfortunately in today society to be able to keep up with the Jones's both parents have to work. In the case above and I dont know all the details it does seem selfish to leave your kids care and raising to someone else so you can make a personal career change.
Their have been several times through out my life I didn't take opportunities because they would put stress on my children also. However I was able to do alot more than some because I had a wife to help out. If I was a single parent the military or any other job that would take me away from my kids and cause someone else to have to raise them would be out of the question.
I know there are alot of single dads and Moms out their serving in our military but believe the vast majority became single Moms and Dads after they were in. I cant see any Man or Women single parent choosing to leave their kids for an extended time for a career or money. Once we have children our lives are lived for the well fair of the child until it can support itself.
Well I agree with alot Rich has to say, but not knowing all the info. I'll just say its nice to hear she is wanting to join the service and in my eye it looks like its a great path for a single mother and a good example for a child. That being grandma is on the boat with helping out.
My grandma was a big part of my life to include me having to live with her several times. Great expereince.
The reserves is not a bad deal any way you put it. Single parent or not. And it is also a carreer move on her part. A friend of mines daughter is in hte saem boat. Her researve training got her a much better higher paying job in nursing. And isn't doing all we can for the sake and safetey of our kids a part of living ?
His daughter is already putting a fair chunk of that salery increase for her kids education. And another part for a home of their own. He is very proud of her and well he should be.
The perk of haelth care alone would be worht it to me if I were in her shoes. ]
You may not be giving her all the credit she is due Catherine. Jimmie
Ok I got a little case of STUPIDITY!! myself I didn't notice the key word RESERVE that puts a new twist on it for me. Not such a bad thing.
Next time I need to try re-reading a post and comprehending it before making a reply. :doh2: :doh2:
Quote from: CCP on July 04, 2010, 07:08:29 AM
Next time I need to try re-reading a post and comprehending it before making a reply. :doh2: :doh2:
Hey you ain't the only Bovine to contact foot and mouth disease :readthis:. I think I may have invented it :doh2:.
Quote from: CCP on July 03, 2010, 08:06:49 PM
Once we have children our lives are lived for the well fair of the child until it can support itself.
Your a good man Rich ! :congrats:
Quote from: HaMeR on July 02, 2010, 05:08:33 PM
God Bless your niece & I wish her the very best in her new endeavour. Sounds like she made a solid decision that she feels will help her & her Daughter.
Making mandatory military service is one of the reasons I voted against the moron in the White House right now. It is not right & never will be. That would be taking away one of the basic Freedoms of every young man and woman. The Freedom of choice.
I knew lots of people like HaMeR back in the '60's. Some of them ran to Canada to avoid the draft. That was their choice and they have had to live with it.
As for me, I think every man should have to serve in the military. If you want to live in this country, you should have to put your ass on the line for it.
Quote from: Semp on July 04, 2010, 09:47:13 PM
Quote from: HaMeR on July 02, 2010, 05:08:33 PM
God Bless your niece & I wish her the very best in her new endeavour. Sounds like she made a solid decision that she feels will help her & her Daughter.
Making mandatory military service is one of the reasons I voted against the moron in the White House right now. It is not right & never will be. That would be taking away one of the basic Freedoms of every young man and woman. The Freedom of choice.
I knew lots of people like HaMeR back in the '60's. Some of them ran to Canada to avoid the draft. That was their choice and they have had to live with it.
As for me, I think every man should have to serve in the military. If you want to live in this country, you should have to put your ass on the line for it.
OK, I know I'mm treading on dangerous ground here :readthis:. I do have a problem with some thoughts though and would like some ideas that I can bite into. If you don't like your president[I've read where some might not] and he is your leader, how can you fight battles for him if you think he might be wrong :shrug:. I know a person should put some things above himself but if you don't believe what you are fighting for is right are you still going to fight as hard. Not trying to piss off any one but I'm just a mite confused on this one :whew:.
Barry you may have heard before
"God and Country above all else"
Without these 2 things you are a wanderer,have no place and no meaning to exits.
QuoteI know a person should put some things above himself but if you don't believe what you are fighting for is right are you still going to fight as hard. Not trying to piss off any one but I'm just a mite confused on this one
Picture you being mad at your wife/kids then one of them going over to the neighbors and doing something wrong and on a scale of 10 wrong. This makes you even more pissed at your wife/kids to the point you want to ring there neck.
Now the neighbor and his buddies come over with baseball bats and start beating your wife/kids. You quickly find yourself fighting for your life and the life of your wife/kids even though they are wrong and you strongly believe what they did was wrong.
Know insert your country in place of the wife/kids.
Each time your country looses a war whether it is in the right or wrong it looses some of it's standing in the world. The standing of your country with the rest of the world effects what it can accomplish for it's citizens and what it can achieve for it's citizens so it does effect you and your wife/kids.
OK then using the neighbor analogy. I'm a firm believer in shooting my own mad dogs so when the neighbors showed up they'd probably find not much to beat on :shrug:. I don't buy the lost war means lost standing either :nofgr:. Let's take Japan and Germany for example as they were both fairly big losers in the last big war. Germany seems to have one of the most robust economy's in the world now and is a leader in the European scheme of things. Japan bounced back to have the fastest growing economy after the war but have run on hard times due to their total lack of natural resources and I think a bit of jealousy by other nations.
I had my Danish friend over for the past few days and I showed him this thread before he left yesterday. They have mandatory military service there. He says it is to defend their country and not to be able to go and beat the stuffing out of some other poor dude. He says if they were to go after another country many wouldn't heed the call as he kinda/sorta thinks along the same lines as me.
Come on Barry you trying to make me think to hard on a Monday morning it would be much easier on me if you just agreed with me. :laf:
Let me make it simple!!!
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They are alive and looking good :shock2:
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i guess im just too old fashioned.
i cant imagine a mother volunteering to miss even one minute of her childs life if she didnt have too.
You mean you wouldn't let your children go & spend a couple weeks w/ the grandparents in the summer! :shock2:
You're a mean cruel individual Cathryn! :sick2:
heck no, their grandparents are nutty on both sides of their family tree,LOL.