From what I can learn there will be no Diner this year. Forestry dept has taken over all LBL amenities. No way of knowing who or what dept will be running this from now on.
So pack up on groceries fella's.
From what I can learn it will not be open again until spring break. Jimmie
Bring lots of :confused: What'd Bopeye call that stuff?.........Bar B Que?
Sucks, If for no other reason a kinda warm place to hang out with everybody......Cept HaMaR, I have a warm place for him :innocentwhistle:
I think that was what you called it Jim. the rest of us had another name for it :nono:
:nono: no no...dont get me involved in this.
Slag will be very popular this year and Reggie better throw in another three coolers.
Should we create one of our own then? Anybody have a big tent? I am willing to Bring a big pot for soup or chili for Friday and saturday night. :shrug: :shrug: If a few people would wanna chip in on the ingredients we could feed 30 - 40 out of one pot.
We like Burgoo and Chili the best but it doesn't matter to me whats put in it.
securpro,I have plenty of deer burger I would be more then happy to donate
If y'all have a tarp laying around bring it with you. We can put them on the sides of the shelter house. I've got one or two of those blue plastic tarps I can bring. Don't know about heat for it though.
I will get a roll of plastic from the shop. We will need heaters for sure? All of ours will be in use at work if it is cold.
Semp dont live to far from the LBL maybe we can ALL meet up there for a meeting. :eyebrow:
Quote from: Jimmie in Ky on January 11, 2011, 09:16:32 PM
I think that was what you called it Jim. the rest of us had another name for it :nono:
Thanks for getting my back there Jimmie. Seems Jimbo is suffering from a little CRS. :eyebrownod:
You mean a little BMB?
Bite Me Bopeye
I can bring my slow cooker and make stew. You can ask Fozzybear my stew is perty good. I will need some help with the meat tho. I need like 15 pounds of good stew meat. Any kind of meat will work.
a couple salamanders should work to heat that big shelter house if we wrap it in tarps.
A salamander up here will certainly not warm anything but a shore birds belly :nono:.
Quote from: WldWldWest on January 11, 2011, 09:14:25 PM
Sucks, If for no other reason a kinda warm place to hang out with everybody......Cept HaMaR, I have a warm place for him :innocentwhistle:
I'll sleep in the car. :laf: :laf:
I think there's a couple restaurants not too far away from there. :confused: Any idea on how big that shelter area is so we know how many tarps to bring? :shrug:
Some of you may remember our first LBL. While on another board, many years before FnF, a few of us put our heads and hearts together to help promote an idea of my good friend and hunting partner, Bopeye. "Lets have a get together for the folks here in the east". We talked it over, many people were interested but none of us had done anything like this before. Several weeks passed, we had several locations in mind but none were top of the list. That is until Jimmie in Ky suggested his old stomping grounds, Land between the Lakes (aka LBL). Plenty of land to hunt, a good population of coyotes (most with a PHD in survival), fairly easy to get into and well managed. They even had a special coyote hunt in Feburary, a win-win for us. The LBL get together was born. We had the place, now to secure more information and get it all set up. Even after several road trips and long distance phone calls to the LBL staff we were still pretty much running in the dark and on our own. The restaurant was supposed to open for us Fri. and Sat. evenings. When we arrived we were instantly faced with a situation, the restaurant was not going to open. The big open shelter had been reserved so we would have a daytime meeting place (we all took something... Coleman lanterns, folding chairs, tables, tarps, cooking stuff, heaters, etc.). When we got there they told us, because of possible fire hazard, we could not use anything but elect. heaters (no open flame or kerosene type heaters, stoves or cookers) even in the open shelters. By the time most of us had gotten there it was late, almost dark and getting pretty cold, with no warm restaurant to greet us. There may have been a few guys staying in the Wrangler's cabins but I don't remember anyone having any of the large cabins rented. Finally, Jimmie in Ky and I approached the officials at Wrangler's, asking if they would take the money for the shelter rental and apply it towards renting a big cabin. I guess the kind folks there felt sorry for our half frozen gang of coyote chasers, they agreed to do so. It was a bit crowded but it got us out of the night wind. Today, thanks to the unselfish efforts of many, the LBL has become a yearly tradition. A meeting of friends, both old and new.
Hopefully everyone will depart the LBL with a feeling of brotherhood and fellowship in their hearts.
I don't know if they still charge rental on the open air shelters but worth checking on. It used to be $50 per 24 hour day, maybe more today. Another place that might be worth a look is Brandon Springs. I remember they have or had? a meeting hall/dorm of some sort but they also charged a hefty fee for it's use.
I can feed 20-25 people two bowls each with my electric cooker. More if I cook over the fire. I have a salamander just have to see if Darren minds hauling the extra gear.
Rental of hte pavillion is hte same as large cabin. But Like Chet mentioned we cannot use open flame heaters of any kind in it. Although it can handle as many as 80 I think. And htey will allow us to use tarps on hte outside walls. This would get us out of hte wind and rain if it occurs.
No way of knowing what the weather will be like there just yet on that weekend. Any resteraunts in hte area would be glad to have us show up but at fees that would out do those of LBL by a considerable amount. And getting such at this date would pose a problem as well.
I think hte Dawson Spring building will be out of bounds for hte same reason we lost the resteraunt this year. From what I gather there has been a major power change up there and everything is in limbo until programs are re-established in spring.
We have made do before with what we have . I don't know how we are going to fit fifty plus people in a cabin without some make shift shelter attached to the porch. We may need to get some Ok to do this. We already know just a wind break will go a long way as long as it's not raining saturday night.
As for food , I aint worried about this bunch. Most of these boys come ready to eat any way with the resteraunt open . Never had a problem finding a snack between meals :nono:
So do we check on hte pavilion or about adding shelter to one of hte cabins? Since we have a blanket reservation anyway the pavilion would be hte easiest thing to do at this point I'm thinking.Jimmie
I got an idea. :eyebrow:
As long as he washes them...if Bopeye brings a pair of his insulated underwear, you could wrap the entire Wranglers Campground parameter. :alscalls:
It might be tough to heat but at least you'd be able to tame the winds. :biggrin:
Checkmate :alscalls: :alscalls:
I am going to get a list of ingredients together for Friday and Saturday evenings and try to post it tonight, also does anyone have a really big skillet (20-24 inch or bigger)? would be nice for fryin up a bunch of eggs.
I will call over there tomorrow and see what I can work out. We already have the whole place reserved on a group permit, and that may include use of the pavilion. I don't know, but I'll see what I can learn tomorrow. In any event I will drive over there sometime in the next week or so and see if I can get the dimensions of the pavilion so we will know what we need in the way of tarps.
Pat
I wonder about the meeting hall at the old Cherokee Park (I think that is the name of the place) in Aurora? Not sure who has jurisdiction over that place now, but they have renovated the big building there? If it is state run, maybe the fees would not be as bad as if its private.
Is there no open flame cookers allowed at the cabins? Maybe not inside, but outside. I'm talking about something like a coleman 2-burner camp stove.
The cabins have small covered porches. Cooking on Coleman stoves out there is okay. They also have fire rings with grills, so cooking over wood or charcoal is okay there. I will be bringing a two burner coleman stove for the porch as well as a microwave and crock pot for inside.
We had two stoves outside last year and an awning over the fire ring.
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Pat
Pat, Rich and I ran around hte idea of setting up a windbreak at my cabin as well. That old fence row could come in pretty handy. It's a little more out of hte winds than hte pavilion is. And with a couple of portable heaters it could work , depending on weather of course. And I am sure we could use the pavilion if nescescary with that blanket reservation. Just need to pony up a few dollars to cover it that night.
And we need to settle on something for the future. I don't think the resteraunt will ever be available again at this time of year. To add the pavilion might be hte better idea , I don't know yet. I have no idea of how much more this thing is going to grow. We have already out stripped the campgrounds cabin capacity this time from what I am hearing. There are others asking about cabins now. How do we deal with the growth in hte future. Some things that will have to be discussed at some time.
Coleman stoves and such are allowed outside in the open. Fire rings are grills are provided at most if not all hte cabins. Jimmie
I have a carnival tent that has walls that are about 8ft high and 40ft long (I think) and I am using half of the roof right now for another project. The walls would make a good wind barrier and should cover a large portion of a shelter house but they are very heavy and I wont be there till Friday but I would be willing to meet up with some body if they want to take it(them) earlier, I live in Northern Ky and could meet up with someone in the area of cincinnatti or lexington. Just a thought
Easy they need to build more cabins :biggrin:
If I remember the size right hte pavilion is about 30 by 40 feet. And it wouldn't be needed until saturday night anyway. That could cover one end and part of a side of hte pavilion. Jimmie
I'm thinking I've got enough wall to cover the entire pavillion, but I'll have to get it out this weekend check to be sure.. Hopefully I can find somebody to help me :iroll: those things are to much for one person to handle :biggrin:
I plan to hunt and BS. Not work. :nono:
Quote from: Semp on January 12, 2011, 07:06:19 PM
I plan to hunt and BS. Not work. :nono:
Consider yo se'f drafted :eyebrownod: Jimmie
Ok so Friday nights dinner is on me and Bill (BillsCustomCalls) we are going to be fixing CHILI and TEN gallons of it, the only thing we dont have are foam cups or bowls and spoons and crackers/cheese if you like them.
For Saturday Night we are thinking of Burgoo (similar to vegetable soup with alot more meats)
Heres what we need: Beef or Venison Roast 6 lbs
Chicken 6 lbs
Pork 6 lbs (I will supply)
Mixed Vegetables 5 lbs (I will supply)
Canned Tomatoes diced 5- 28oz cans
Onions 3 large
KENTUCKY Bourbon 1- 5th
Styrofoam Cups and Bowls
Wild meat if you want (raccoon, groundhog ect.) NO Coyote !
Why not coyote, Ed should have at least two by then and with any spices at all who would know :confused: Jimmie
Ya gotta point there Jimmie :alscalls:
Quote from: Jimmie in Ky on January 12, 2011, 07:32:19 PM
Why not coyote, Ed should have at least two by then and with any spices at all who would know :confused: Jimmie
I got one on ice right now. You need it? :laf:
I got one that's been aging for two weeks. Should just about be ready for the pot. :eyebrownod:
:alscalls: :alscalls: :alscalls: :alscalls:
Should I add some more :alscalls:
might as well throw in some crow to
:nono: I was enjoying what I was reading, all of a sudden I barfed :puke:
Well clean yourself up and come back for 2nds
Nobody walks away hungry :laf:
I take it you guys dont want coyote in your soup either ! :shrug: :alscalls: :alscalls: :alscalls:
I can make this stew as well
Bear’s varmit stew
15-20 Lb Chuck roast
(cut into large bite size chunks & brown, garlic salt and salt)
5-7 Lb potatoes
1 Large stalk Celery
1 Large bunch carrots
3-5 Lb onions
2 large green peppers
2 medium heads cabbage
Approximately 1 gallon tomatoes
Garlic salt, salt, pepper to taste
1 10 Oz bottle soy sauce
1 small jar La Choy brown gravy sauce
6 bay leaves
2- 2 ½ tbsp crushed red peppers
4 Oz dark Karo syrup
2 Large cans tomato Juice (approx 1 gallon)
(May substitute V-8 Juice)
Simmer until carrots are edible
Serves 20-25 people @ 2 bowls per person
I can make this exeact receipe in my electric roaster oven. I have never had anyone turn my stew down. I have made it with venesion and beef but I want to try it with elk or moose
The guy I need to talk to at LBL is out of the office until Monday, so I will call again then.
Pat
Slag, That sounds good to... I would just like to narrow it down as to whats on the menu for saturday evenings meal. I am hopeing that if we have something for everyone that will eliminate the need for a long drive out for dinner.I am guessing there will be 60 - 70 people there from the looks of it.
I work at a plumbing store and we sell 4mil ploy platic sheeting for ground cover in crawl spaces, its 10x100. That 4 mil is pretty thick, can we not just tie up walls with it with 550 cord. It is clear in color so wont be too dark. Hell for that matter we could double wall it. I could grab a couple rolls. If needed.
Jeremy that would be alot easier than dealing with the weight of the tarps,sounds good.
Ok, I will bring a couple of rolls then.
I spoke to the LBL folks today. Since the restruant is going to be closed, they are going to let us use the pavilion and waive the fee. There is electricity at the pavilion which they are going to turn on for us. I am going to drive over there on Thursday and get the measurements to see what it will take to enclose it or at least set up a windbreak. More to follow.
Pat
Pat, check to see if it has a fireplace too.
Quote from: coyote101 on January 18, 2011, 06:12:22 PM
I spoke to the LBL folks today. Since the restruant is going to be closed, they are going to let us use the pavilion and waive the fee. There is electricity at the pavilion which they are going to turn on for us. I am going to drive over there on Thursday and get the measurements to see what it will take to enclose it or at least set up a windbreak. More to follow.
Pat
Your the man Pat!
I dont' think you want to go in there on thursday PAT. If you do go early and get the heck out soon. You don't want caught in there if this snow storm is worse than they are predicting
Jimmie
Thanks Jimmie, I'm keeping an eye on the weather.
Pat
If it does what they say you can get in and out by noon and be safe enough. If it comes early that deamens hill will be a tiny bit too slick with those temps. Jimmie
I went by Wrangler's this morning to check out the cabins and pavilion. The pavilion should be plenty large for our gathering. It is an open air facility, but we can string tarps or some other form of windbreak on one or more sides if necessary. We will have lights and electric there and can use propane heaters and/or torpedo heaters if we bring them.
The pavilion has about 60' X 36' +or- under roof.
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It has a concrete floor and twelve picnic tables.
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There are four lights and four electric outlets on each side.
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There is a fire ring and a double wide fire pit/grill a few feet away on the east side.
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There is a good chance that the outpost (restaurant) building will be vacant by next week. If so they will allow us to use it for our gathering. We won't be able to use any of the kitchen equipment, and will of course have to clean up after ourselves, but is indoors and will be more comfortable than the pavilion, although a bit more cramped. I will know more about that next week. The Forestry folks at LBL have been very accommodating and easy to work with throughout this and we need to thank them when we see them.
Looking forward to seeing everyone the week after next.
Pat
THANK YOU Pat for all your efforts to get this lined out. :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:
Yes indeed, Pat. Thanks for your efforts. I'm sure everyone appreciates all you are doing to help make the LBL get together a success!!
Jim
If the tables and chairs are still there hte resteraunt building is hte best bet by far and a lot less work for Semp to do :eyebrownod:
Jimmie
Quote from: Jimmie in Ky on January 20, 2011, 04:33:16 PMa lot less work for Semp to do :eyebrownod:
Jimmie
Wasn't like we were expecting you to work :innocentwhistle:
Thanks a bunch Pat!! :yoyo: :yoyo:
Whoa!! Never ever use the word WORK and my name in the same sentence. :nofgr: Ya wanna give me a heart attack?? :alscalls:
I am retired:
- No Job
- No Money
- No Work
- No Cares
- Will Hunt For Food
I forgot to add:
Thanks, Pat!!!!
Thanks again, Pat. Looking forward to telling you that in person!
Dang I miss the plans of going :sad:. Pat not only helps get you there but put's up with you too :yoyo:. Thankyou Pat :bowingsmilie:
Wow, the way that pavilion is set up, I'm thinking half the gang could sleep under there. :laf:
If my thinking is correct then we should be able to use 2 rolls of that 4mil poly which is 10x100 to enclose the shelter. Tie off to one corner and run it down the wall around and to the opposite corner on both sides. It sounds easy anyway. We'll tie off to a couple of the beams on the way down the wall. We may need a small ladder to do so which i dont have if someone can swing it. It looks like the problem lies at the eve on the ends. Havent figured that one out yet, but it aint gotta be perfect I guess.
Pat I dont care what any body says, Your allright!!
Quote from: securpro on January 12, 2011, 07:26:53 PM
Ok so Friday nights dinner is on me and Bill (BillsCustomCalls) we are going to be fixing CHILI and TEN gallons of it, the only thing we dont have are foam cups or bowls and spoons and crackers/cheese if you like them.
For Saturday Night we are thinking of Burgoo (similar to vegetable soup with alot more meats)
Heres what we need: Beef or Venison Roast 6 lbs
Chicken 6 lbs
Pork 6 lbs (I will supply)
Mixed Vegetables 5 lbs (I will supply)
Canned Tomatoes diced 5- 28oz cans
Onions 3 large
KENTUCKY Bourbon 1- 5th
Styrofoam Cups and Bowls
Wild meat if you want (raccoon, groundhog ect.) NO Coyote !
Quote from: securpro on January 24, 2011, 09:38:39 PM
Quote from: securpro on January 12, 2011, 07:26:53 PM
Ok so Friday nights dinner is on me and Bill (BillsCustomCalls) we are going to be fixing CHILI and TEN gallons of it, the only thing we dont have are foam cups or bowls and spoons and crackers/cheese if you like them.
For Saturday Night we are thinking of Burgoo (similar to vegetable soup with alot more meats)
Heres what we need: Beef or Venison Roast 6 lbs
Chicken 6 lbs
Pork 6 lbs (I will supply)
Mixed Vegetables 5 lbs (I will supply)
Canned Tomatoes diced 5- 28oz cans
Onions 3 large
KENTUCKY Bourbon 1- 5th
Styrofoam Cups and Bowls
Wild meat if you want (raccoon, groundhog ect.) NO Coyote !
OK I can supply the Kentucky Bourbon, and maybe a slice of apple pie !!
Chilly & burgoo is my fav. :biggrin:
I got some propane heaters that i can bring that would heat the pavillion I THINK. Thats if we don't get the diner i guess. Just need to know somthing by Sat.
Quote from: Biscuit on January 26, 2011, 12:58:26 PM
I got some propane heaters that i can bring that would heat the pavillion I THINK. Thats if we don't get the diner i guess. Just need to know somthing by Sat.
I should know tomorrow or Friday if we will be able to get inside. I'll let you know.
Pat
Hey Pat I got the chicken. Dont spend a bunch of money. I am willing to put in my share.
I called the Wrangler's facility manager this morning. We will be able to use the outpost building for our get together. The tables and chairs will still be there, but if we have a large crowd a few of us may have to bring our folding chairs or stand. Looking forward to next week.
Pat
That's good news. Thanks, Pat.
Thats good news , Somebody tell Jeremy we dont need the plastic.. :highclap:
Thanks alot Pat. :wink: Should be a little warmer than the pavilion. :yoyo: :yoyo:
Good deal, boy that was nice of them.
Nice legwork Pat :congrats:
Pat you are the man. If you dont care tie a few yotes up for me while your at it.