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Title: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: FOsteology on January 28, 2011, 07:22:59 AM
What gun set up do you think he would be packin?  :confused:
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: HaMeR on January 28, 2011, 07:24:38 AM
30-06   :biggrin:
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: THO Game Calls on January 28, 2011, 07:51:20 AM
30-30 and a sidearm in 44 mag.  Fast, light, easy to get ammo almost anywhere, and enough gun to do what needs to be done.  30-06 would be good too, but I think a might heavy and big to pack around all the time, but again real easy to get ammo.

Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: WldWldWest on January 28, 2011, 07:55:42 AM
M1A SOCOM II With a matching pair of Kimber 45's in duel shoulder rig's (1911's of course) and a KABAR :biggrin: :biggrin:

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Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: FOsteology on January 28, 2011, 08:03:16 AM
The 30-30 and .44Mag sidearm sounds 'bout right.

Easy to reload, components readily available, and excellent case life. Thumps game pretty good, and more than enough range available for a decent hunter.

A well built drilling sounds good too. 12x12 over 30-30. Although, 7x57R would likely be more common. Maybe a barrel insert for .22LR thrown in for good measure.

Something like this:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/FOsteology/My_Rifles/drilling1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/FOsteology/My_Rifles/drilling2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/FOsteology/My_Rifles/drilling3.jpg)

Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: WldWldWest on January 28, 2011, 08:09:54 AM
I thought ya'll said modern...30-30 :confused:

That's yesterday :wink:
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: securpro on January 28, 2011, 08:22:19 AM
I'd say he'd be carrying a AR with a .458 or 50 beowulf upper for the big game and those pesky scalpers and a light weight 22 upper for them little critters and for a side arm I'd say a HK USP compact 9mm just so he could carry more ammo than in .45 with the same results. :biggrin:

But if it were me  :eyebrow: I'd stick with My old trusty Marlin 30/30 and good 6 inch revolver in .357 or .44 mag. IMO using an automatic in those temps would be a mistake :rolleye:
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: securpro on January 28, 2011, 08:23:30 AM
 :holdon: WWW the 30/30 will never die  :eyebrownod:
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: pitw on January 28, 2011, 08:31:42 AM
  Fos, I have looked and drooled over a lot of drillings and that is a fine looking sample.  Could you furnish a bit more info.
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: FOsteology on January 28, 2011, 08:36:23 AM
Barry,

Needless to say, the drilling unfortunately isn't mine. I've been drooling over it for the past week myself as a gent on another Forum has up for sale.

The particulars:

QuoteJP Sauer and Sohn hammer drilling in 16/16/9.3x74R with a 22 magnum insert for the right hand shotgun barrel. LOP is about 13 ¾ inches to the front trigger. Barrels are 26 inches long.
Barrels are marked Krupp Esson Fluss Stahl. It has an under lever to break the action. Barrel selection is by moving the lever on top of the pistol grip. The gun has very limited fine engraving.
The gun is I think, about 100 years old and has been hunted. It has wear in the bluing and patina and marks from field use. It has claw bases, but no rings fitted to them.
It has a bead front sight and a shallow v rear sight. There is a cartridge trap in the butt stock. The butt plate is, I believe, horn.

It has a worm marks and chips that you would expect from a gun of this age. I bought it several years ago from Gary Reeder. It was his hunting gun. He took it to Alaska and shot a caribou, fox and ptarmigan with it. He acquired it from an estate in Florida where that owner had hunted Africa. When I bought it, I had JJ Perodeaux (Champlin Firearms, Inc.) bring it back on face and repair the right hammer. The shotgun barrels have been opened to 2 ¾ inches. I shot a few 2 ¾ shells to test them, but have only hunted with short shells.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/FOsteology/My_Rifles/drilling4.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/FOsteology/My_Rifles/drilling5.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/FOsteology/My_Rifles/drilling6.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/FOsteology/My_Rifles/drilling7.jpg)
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: coyote101 on January 28, 2011, 08:41:10 AM
I have kicked myself many times over the years for not buying a drilling when I was stationed in Germany in the mid 80's. The eastern European guns were pretty affordable when the exchange rate approached three and a half Marks to the dollar. Thanks for posting that FOs.

Pat
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: FOsteology on January 28, 2011, 08:46:01 AM
I lived in Germany during the mid 80's.... (1981 thru mid 1985)

Where were you stationed??
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: coyote101 on January 28, 2011, 09:02:40 AM
Quote from: FOsteology on January 28, 2011, 08:46:01 AM
I lived in Germany during the mid 80's.... (1981 thru mid 1985)

Where were you stationed??

Goeppingen, which is about 30 miles east of Stuttgart. Whenever I travelled anywhere, I tried to get to the local Rod and Gun club. A lot of good deals to be had at that time, especially mid 84 to mid '85. Then the U.S. government started driving down the value of the dollar. The dollar was worth 2 mark 43 the day I arrived, peaked at 3 mark 47 I believe, and was at 1 mark 95 when I left in December 1986.

Pat
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: FOsteology on January 28, 2011, 09:39:31 AM
Pat,

I fondly remember those days in Germany. We lived in Karlsruhe (Paul Revere Village), but my father unfortunately spent most of his time in Grafenwoehr as he was assigned to the 79th Engineers out of Gerszewski (The "Zoo") Barracks. We still managed to travel across Europe extensively. It was without a doubt a fantastic place for a young man to go through adolescence.  :eyebrow:
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: WldWldWest on January 28, 2011, 01:27:17 PM
quoteHK USP compact 9mm just so he could carry more ammo than in .45 with the same results.



NOT!!! :doh2:
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: THO Game Calls on January 28, 2011, 01:56:13 PM
The real question is not what gun, but..........

"Can you skin a Griz, Pilgrim?"

Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: KySongDog on January 28, 2011, 03:25:38 PM
Jeremiah would still be carrying Hatchet Jack's 50 caliber Hawken. 
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: FOsteology on January 28, 2011, 03:58:32 PM
Quote from: THO Game Calls on January 28, 2011, 01:56:13 PM
The real question is not what gun, but..........

"Can you skin a Griz, Pilgrim?"

{Bear Claw runs through the cabin with a huge grizzly bear close behind and jumps out the back window}

"Skin that one, pilgrim, and I'll get you another!" hahahahahaha
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: WldWldWest on January 28, 2011, 07:01:25 PM
Very Sweet shootin iron FOsteology!!! :biggrin:

I still say the MODERN day Jeramiah is gonna be gunned up with a lil more than a 30-30! Now granted he may well carry a 44 but I bet the Hogleg has glass on it :eyebrownod: I'm thinking this is how he's gonna be packing!!!


(My gas guns run in the cold)

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(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo183/WldWldWest/DSC00207.jpg)
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: FOsteology on January 28, 2011, 07:10:59 PM
I think MODERN day Jeramiah would get awful tired touting that behemoth up and down the mountain, and the inevitable hang-ups in the brush. Not to mention the frequent trips into civilization to stock up on batteries.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: coyote101 on January 28, 2011, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: FOsteology on January 28, 2011, 07:22:59 AM
What gun set up do you think he would be packin?  :confused:

Let's just ask Tikaani.  :iroll: :iroll:

Pat
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: WldWldWest on January 28, 2011, 08:09:37 PM
The MODERN day Jeramiah would just take the batteries out of his battery operated socks and put in his equipment if they ran low :shrug:
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: Tikaani on January 28, 2011, 08:30:09 PM
Thanks Pat, just had to drag me into this didn't you :eyebrownod:  But if you must know, dealing with big animals as Jeramiah had to, big bears, moose, buffalo, when they are riled you usually get one maybe two shots, better make it count.  His choice today would be a 300 or 338 WinMag rifle maybe even a 375 with a 44 magnum sidearm, but like I said that is just my opinion.

John
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: FOsteology on January 28, 2011, 08:35:23 PM
Quote from: WldWldWest on January 28, 2011, 08:09:37 PM
The MODERN day Jeramiah would just take the batteries out of his battery operated socks and put in his equipment if they ran low :shrug:

Battery operated socks for perpetual warm feet...... {L}, that's some gear I can wholeheartedly get behind!   :highclap:
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: securpro on January 28, 2011, 08:37:09 PM
WWW you are obviously a fan of the .45 and so am I, but the fact of the matter is a 9mm is just as effective as the .45 and the final results are nearly identicle. Here is an article that many of you .45 guys might find interesting.
http://joebarrett.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/9mm-versus-45-cal-you-be-the-judge-but-think-about-it-first/

And as for the cold (dont) keep your gun oiled if you want it to work in subzero temps,I have a friend that found out the hard way hunting with his M1 Garand :rolleye:
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: WldWldWest on January 28, 2011, 09:16:28 PM
[/quotefact of the matter is a 9mm is just as effective as the .45 and the final results are nearly identicle. ]

That battle has gone on for a while hasnt it? I cant argue the the point that people that are alot sharper than me have made but I can go from personal experience that a 230gr bullet that penetrates "10-12" and stops does much more damage than a 115-130gr bullet that penetrates completely. For home defence a 9mm is much more apt to penetrate your average walls than a 45 is.

As for a real mans rifle.....Ya dont oil an M1 Garand, You grease it! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

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Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: pitw on January 29, 2011, 08:56:28 AM
  Wouldn't it depend on who had died for him to find for what kind of gun he would carry :confused:. 
Title: Re: If there were a modern day Jeramiah Johnson.....
Post by: iahntr on January 29, 2011, 07:36:44 PM
Watchin the movie right now.  ;yes;