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Title: BIRD OF PREY AND INSTANT KHARMA, advice
Post by: vayotehowler on April 02, 2011, 05:37:17 PM
On wed amy sent me a pic of a bird leg and I thought Dakota(dog) had caught a bird. Couple of weeks ago he found rabbit nest and ate all 3 babies. Came home and started looking at the feathers and realized it was a robin. She said look up here and on the boys swingset  was feathers all over the top beam. yesterday came back from tball yesterday  and there was a falcon or hawk laying on side of the road right in front of the house with a broken neck. 1st bit of advice do i need to report soemthing like that??? 2nd advice , Is illegal to be in posession of bird of prey feathers isnt it ?????
Title: Re: BIRD OF PREY AND INSTANT KHARMA, advice
Post by: FinsnFur on April 02, 2011, 10:11:54 PM
I'm not sure about the feathers, but if you get caught with the bird you could be in some hot water. I dont think you can get pinched for not reporting it, I mean who's to say you even seen it.

But you go out there with a shovel to clean it up, and now your in possession of it.  :readthis:
Title: Re: BIRD OF PREY AND INSTANT KHARMA, advice
Post by: vayotehowler on April 02, 2011, 11:15:39 PM
Yeah Jim. I  didnt think would be bad to report it . I called the VDGIF and she confirmed is illegal to possess fthrs. Have to get a spec permit from fed govt . silly I know . I read online 100000.00 if u r in possession of a bald eagle feather on an article i read. not woth it but thought woukd be cook to have em since opportunity was there
Title: Re: BIRD OF PREY AND INSTANT KHARMA, advice
Post by: msmith on April 03, 2011, 06:48:24 AM
Some of the parts, such as feathers, Native Americans can possess. I'm like you though, I think it would be cool to have a couple but I don't have enough pocket change to handle a fine like that.
Title: Re: BIRD OF PREY AND INSTANT KHARMA, advice
Post by: THO Game Calls on April 03, 2011, 08:16:29 AM
You can research it here

http://www.fws.gov/laws/lawsdigest/migtrea.html

http://wildlifelaw.unm.edu/fedbook/mbta.html

In short

Prohibited Acts. Unless permitted by regulations, the Act provides that it is unlawful to pursue, hunt, take, capture or kill; attempt to take, capture or kill; possess, offer to or sell, barter, purchase, deliver or cause to be shipped, exported, imported, transported, carried or received any migratory bird, part, nest, egg or product, manufactured or not. Subject to limitations in the Act.

Violations/Penalties. According to the Act, a person, association, partnership or corporation which violates the Act or its regulations is guilty of a misdemeanor and subject to a fine of up to $500, jail up to six months, or both. Anyone who knowingly takes a migratory bird and intends to, offers to, or actually sells or barters the bird is guilty of a felony, with fines up to $2,000, jail up to two years, or both.

The list of bird species is here

http://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/RegulationsPolicies/mbta/mbtandx.html#alpha1

Notice the the good old American Crow is listed....



Title: Re: BIRD OF PREY AND INSTANT KHARMA, advice
Post by: FinsnFur on April 03, 2011, 09:03:13 AM
Thats a cool link at the bottom there.
Too bad the species werent linked to a pic, I could identify some these feathered critters I'm feeding all winter. :laf:
Title: Re: BIRD OF PREY AND INSTANT KHARMA, advice
Post by: pitw on April 03, 2011, 09:29:46 AM
Quote from: THO Game Calls on April 03, 2011, 08:16:29 AM
http://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/RegulationsPolicies/mbta/mbtandx.html#alpha1

There are birds there that ain't even on the bird watchers list I'm thinking :whew:.
Title: Re: BIRD OF PREY AND INSTANT KHARMA, advice
Post by: vayotehowler on April 03, 2011, 10:04:16 AM
there is a license i can get to keep feathers but I understand it keeps people from killing em and saying . I foudn this deaad bird and the feahters. the bad part is u could find one in the woods not know what it is , show it to the wrong person and u in trouble . I donyt know where to begin to get the permit . I think is a Perrigrine . grey feathers with black bands  on the tail feathers. i love Birds of prey , would love to get into falconry . Gonna see if i can track down that permit to keep em
Title: Re: BIRD OF PREY AND INSTANT KHARMA, advice
Post by: Carolina Coyote on April 03, 2011, 10:43:31 AM
I think there are birds there that don't exist on earth anymore Just a mite to much Government. It looks like if in possession of any feathers you could be in trouble.  :confused: cc
Title: Re: BIRD OF PREY AND INSTANT KHARMA, advice
Post by: THO Game Calls on April 03, 2011, 01:00:50 PM
Here ya go Jim

http://ebird.org/content/wi/

http://www.birdwatchersdigest.com/bwdsite/learn/identification/index.php

Don't let the cat out of the bag, but the state by state E bird list are a great way to find Crows and Turkeys to hunt, as well as other upland birds and water fowl.   These bird watcher are out all the time, in NH, they have an E bird mailing list where people report daily sightings.

It's like having a couple thousand people out scouting for you while you sit home and drink coffee.

Almost as good as driving around subdivisions near the woods looking for lost cat and dog posters.   The more you find, the better the coyote hunting around there for some reason   :confused:
Title: Re: BIRD OF PREY AND INSTANT KHARMA, advice
Post by: FinsnFur on April 03, 2011, 01:07:01 PM
Thats gonna tie me up.  :eyebrownod:
Ah crap I'm falling into the bird watcher category  :doh2:  :laf: