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Title: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: FinsnFur on September 29, 2014, 08:41:56 PM
You guys with chain saws. Whats your trick to the gas cap woes? My gas cap is getting so frickin tight I cant hardly even get the threads started any more, and when I do it gets about half way in before it says, "NO MORE".
I tried sanding the threads down and it didnt do squat.
I did some research and it's apparently a known issues with all saws?? The ethanol in todays fuels make the allegedly porous plastic cap swell.
Seriously? In todays day and age we cant make a gas cap that doesnt absorb fuel and swell to the point of uselessness?  :doh2:
A couple of sites I found told people to buy a spare and let one set on the bench for a few days to dry out and keep swapping them. :doh2:
Anyone got this problem? Or any remedies?
nor-cal yote, does your saw do this??
Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: nor-cal yote on September 29, 2014, 11:02:32 PM
Never had this problem.....what kind of saw I might have extras.
Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: HaMeR on September 30, 2014, 05:19:53 AM
I had a cheap Poulan from Lowes that did the same thing.  It was a very good saw til it got burnt up. My Echo is 4 or 5 years old now & I haven't had that issue at all. Maybe it's still too new. I always wondered why that Poulan cap got to be near impossible to use.
Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: FinsnFur on September 30, 2014, 05:31:53 AM
So maybe it's the lower priced saws all doing this.
Mines a 16" Poulan Pro. Its three years old.
Ya know whats funny? When I bought the saw they had one on the shelf opened up as a display model....the gas had had been stolen from it.  :wo: Its starting to come together now.
Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: FinsnFur on September 30, 2014, 06:01:42 AM
HaMeR, what'd you mean "burnt up"? The engine burnt itself up or the saw was in a fire?
Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: msmith on September 30, 2014, 07:25:46 AM
I have 3 Stihls and a Dohlmar and never had that problem.  :confused:
Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: nor-cal yote on September 30, 2014, 12:11:45 PM
I pretty much run still and husky. Had a poulan once it did not adjust to elevation very well.if I went up or down more than 600 feet I had to readjust the carb. I was told they are called poulan because you pull on them for hours to get them to start.
Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: HuntnCarve on September 30, 2014, 02:43:19 PM
If you leave your "pull on" out on the wood pile now, the ground squirrels will have a new home in the gas tank. :alscalls:

Ethanol should not be attacking the plastic?   :confused: Stihl or Husky Jim, the only way to go!


Dave
Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: FinsnFur on September 30, 2014, 10:02:54 PM
I've had the cap off it now for a couple days. I went out to the shop to check it this morning before heading to work...it screwed right in. :iroll:
I talked to a guy at work today also with a Stihl and he said his does the same thing...just not to the same extreme mine does. And it even throws gas when he first cracks the seemingly too tight cap, loose. lol
I cant believe they sell junk like this. I ordered a aftermarket cap when I got home tonight which the reviews claim it hasnt swelled on them. If nothing else, I guess I'll have a spare cap to swap out like the other cheap bass turds running these saws. :laf: :laf:
I gotta do something with it, since it still runs. :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: HaMeR on October 01, 2014, 05:13:06 AM
Motor burnt up on a big hard Maple.  :laf: :laf: 

My Echo starts easily even after it sets for 6-7 months. I'll be starting it up in a couple weeks to trim the trees back around here a little bit. Might even take down the little 60' Walnut tree that's growing against the garage foundation.  :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: Hawks Feather on October 01, 2014, 09:09:44 AM
Quote from: FinsnFur on September 30, 2014, 10:02:54 PM
I ordered a aftermarket cap when I got home tonight...

Jim,

Have you considered a cork.  They are relatively inexpensive and would be easy to remove when you need to fill.    ;yes;

Just a thought. 

Jerry
Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: JohnP on October 01, 2014, 04:48:44 PM
"Have you considered a cork.  They are relatively inexpensive and would be easy to remove when you need to fill.  Just a thought. "

He could do that but then he would have the added expense of buying a corkscrew.   
Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: HaMeR on October 01, 2014, 04:49:05 PM
Quote from: Hawks Feather on October 01, 2014, 09:09:44 AM
Quote from: FinsnFur on September 30, 2014, 10:02:54 PM
I ordered a aftermarket cap when I got home tonight...

Jim,

Have you considered a cork.  They are relatively inexpensive and would be easy to remove when you need to fill.    ;yes;

Just a thought. 



:confused: So are you suggesting Jim put a cork in it Jerry??  :shrug: :shrug:


:alscalls: :alscalls:

Jerry
Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: HaMeR on October 01, 2014, 04:49:32 PM
 :alscalls: :alscalls:  @ the corkscrew!!
Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: Hawks Feather on October 01, 2014, 08:17:39 PM
All this cork and cork screw talk is making me thirsty.  I am headed out for some wine.

Jerry
Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: FinsnFur on October 01, 2014, 09:56:36 PM
Your ALL corkscrewed aint ya? :sneer:
Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: HaMeR on October 02, 2014, 05:02:14 AM
QuoteYou guys with chain saws. Whats your trick to the gas cap woes? My gas cap is getting so frickin tight I cant hardly even get the threads started any more, and when I do it gets about half way in before it says, "NO MORE".
I tried sanding the threads down and it didnt do squat.
I did some research and it's apparently a known issues with all saws?? The ethanol in todays fuels make the allegedly porous plastic cap swell.
Seriously? In todays day and age we cant make a gas cap that doesnt absorb fuel and swell to the point of uselessness?  :doh2:
A couple of sites I found told people to buy a spare and let one set on the bench for a few days to dry out and keep swapping them. :doh2:
Anyone got this problem? Or any remedies?
nor-cal yote, does your saw do this??


Not enough wine in here Jerry??

:yahoo: :yahoo:
Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: KySongDog on October 02, 2014, 06:42:53 AM
Jim
I've had that same problem before and it was on a Poulan.   Bought another cap and started swapping them out.  Worked OK.  Maybe Poulan uses some type of cheap plastic to go along with the rest of their cheap saw.   :eyebrownod:
Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: FinsnFur on October 02, 2014, 10:07:43 PM
Well, the new cap came today and although I havent checked to see how well it fits, I am noticing something very interesting.
Look at the thread thickness difference.

(http://i61.tinypic.com/2yo3lvr.jpg) (http://i61.tinypic.com/9i8sbd.jpg)
OLD CAP                                                                                                       NEW CAP

I actually sanded the threads a little bit on the old cap to try and get it on the saw tighter once I started having trouble. Thats the white your seeing on the threads but the new threads are considerably thinner.

I think your right...cheap saw...cheap plastic

Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: HaMeR on October 02, 2014, 11:08:53 PM
Big difference for sure!!
Title: Re: Chainsaw gas cap blues
Post by: riverboss on October 04, 2014, 12:01:46 PM
I bet its the diameter that has changed. Buy a Stihl you will be very happy.  Ive got two and love them. I wish i could find a handle for my Jonsred it got pinched in a tree and the wind got up blew over and crushed the handle assm.

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