Ordered A Rock River Varmint EOP, 24" 1-12 for light loads. NM trigger, 6 position stock, lefty safety, ambi ergo grip. Only 3 more months to go, out of 4. I'd like to thank Jimmy Zumbo for making me take A closer look at the AR platform for A new predator rifle.
Any thoughts on the 1-12 twist? ~KT
I'm assuming it's a 223? :shrug:
It'll be okay for lighter bullets. (<55gr) My 22Varminter is a 1-12 twist & 60grs & above won't shoot well in it. :noway:
My RRA EOP has a 20 inch Wilson air gauged barrel....all the NM stuff w/ Hogue front and rear...shoots LIGHTS FREAKIN' OUT!!!!! 60 gr Vmax shoots about .45-.60 depending on me.....you will love it!!
Joe
Yes, sir, it's A .223. I had to get the 24" barrel to get the 1-12 twist for the 45-55 grain ammo that I want to throw at predators. I played with A Bushmaster Varmint Special at Cabelas and I didn't think 24" was too much for me. Everyone seemed to like the RRA NM over other factory stuff, too.
I was about to order A lefty Savage LP .204, but like I said after reading up on all that Zumbo stuff. . .
Your right Joe- they are tack drivers. And what's another $200 anyways!
My wife got this version- "After 2 years of shooting I'll save 'nuf money on ammo to pay for that other $200!" :readthis: It worked.
One thing you'll never see me do is reload. No coyote could tell the difference, and I enjoy family time too much. Plus I have worked at Sierra Bullets in Sedalia, MO. . . spent too much time in front of A magnifying glass watching thousands of bullets go by. :madd:
~KT
kiyitec,
I don't think that Rock River Arms makes a bad weapon. I have a SS 16" Varmint barrel on my A4, that has a 1:9 twist.
I don't reload for my AR. The idea of looking for brass in the grass has no appeal to me. My A4 shoots both Winchester (white box) and UMC 45gr. JHP ammo, just fine.....1/2" groups at 100 yards.
Good hunting, Bowhunter57
I suspect some day I'll end up with A 16" bull upper too, but first on the list is A true lefty, Stag.
Now if I can slide the "one lower with 10 uppers still being one gun" idea past the wife this will all work out! She put A cap on me- no more than will fit in the gun safe- right now I'm at 15 out of 24. :roflmao: ~KT
Hey Bowhunter57: Welcome aboard ya ol' OSer. :laf: Good to see ya here. :highclap:
I'm a Rock River Arms premier dealer, and have never had a complaint about the quality or accuracy of an RRA product. The 24" A4 / EOP is a little on the heavy side, other than that it is what an AR 15 should be. You'll love it.
Thanks Dan!
I am A known over analyzer, procrastinator, and pessimist. All of which pointed me towards the aforementioned rifle. :confused:
Any chance you could put in A good word for me? July 23rd is such A long ways away! J/K Dan!
I am not too worried about the weight, but I would have opted for an 18" or maybe 16"in the 1-12 had it been available/made. The way I figure it you'd lose about 4% velocity- that's something else A coyote wouldn't know the difference about. At least out to 300yds w/ 40-55 grainers. ~KT
KT....If the wife said only as many as the safe will hold, ARs come apart and would take up less room that way right? LOL
My wife said I could get one, but that I have to save for it. She know's I can't save money. Evil to the bone sometimes she is.... :pout:
If the weight gets the best of you, I can shorten the barrel and flute it. You will have it before July, I'm getting them in 5-6 weeks. Good Luck.
Quote from: awh on May 08, 2007, 10:09:12 AM
My wife said I could get one, but that I have to save for it. She know's I can't save money. Evil to the bone sometimes she is..
Here is my saving secret, it's also the secret to A happy marriage: SEPERATE BANK ACCOUNTS!!! :readthis:
Dan- 5-6 weeks? SWEET! 6 weeks here would have been, um, yesterday! Looks like I need to make A phone call! ~KT
Yeah I hear ya. Mine seperates my money from the account. Me and Cam have to many guns per her, but when I say something about all the clothes she has...well, lets say I end up cooking when stuff like that comes out of my mouth. :confused:
Yer prolly one heck of A cook by now, huh? :roflmao: :highclap: :bowingsmilie:
Mine just wanted help with the dishes- so I fathered 2 kids AND bought her A dishwasher :shrug: ~KT
Oh I can say me and Cam would never starve to death for sure. And I bought her a dish washer but get chewed out for putting one plate in it to wash. I told her that's what it was bought for and I don't do dishes in the sink. Then I do them in the sink just before the back swing with the skillet.....
If ya really want to get them going off, if you have younger children, do like I did when Cam was about two or three. He would get in the car to go somewhere and end up in the front seat. And tell her "boy's in the front....Girls in the back" That never went that well either for some reason. :shrug: She's a good egg and puts up with alot of crap from me and Cam, so she can stay for a while longer I guess.
you will love your RRA, they are great rifles.
I have a Bushmaster and I love mine. I am not totally crazy about the .223 round yet. Maybe it is lack of experiance but I don't like the huge arc it has during flight.
I keep thinking about gettind a .204 upper for my lower but I already have .204 bolt gun.
Danny, I tried to answer your PM, but my PM thing don't work.
Dan, Your PM thing won't work till your a reg member, 25 posts.
Well I have 23, and gaining fast. :biggrin: Thanks
Dan, Just give me a yell when ever. No big hurry here.
You keep saving and I'll keep posting. Someday we'll both have enough. :biggrin:
Now if we could work out a deal where Jim paid us per post I'd have that AR in no time. :innocentwhistle:
Quote from: browning204 on May 09, 2007, 04:42:57 PM
I am not totally crazy about the .223 round yet. Maybe it is lack of experiance but I don't like the huge arc it has during flight.
Here in central Missouri I never take A shot over 300yrds. Most ain't over 200. And in the cost of ammo, and it was my most logical choice. If I can't live with bulk stuff, Hornady has the 40 GR V-MAX or Moly 40's(same price) that shoot 3800fps muzzle, and -5.5 @300 w/ 200yd zero.
Don't get me wrong I love the .204, and my 8yo is saving up for one as we speak. She even dropped the plans for an ipod thinking she'll get MORE use out of her new predator rifle. Gotta love her! ~KT
Quote from: Dan Carey on May 07, 2007, 10:31:00 PM
I'm a Rock River Arms premier dealer, and have never had a complaint about the quality or accuracy of an RRA product. The 24" A4 / EOP is a little on the heavy side, other than that it is what an AR 15 should be. You'll love it.
Dan,
Do you have a website or something I could check out. I really hadn't even considered Rock River Arms.......not sure why. :confused:
I have been leaning towards a Bushmaster, but after reading this thread.......well..... :wo: let's just say I am reconsidering.
I go to AR-15.com and it just seems to confuse me a lot more than it helps me. I'd love to chat with ya. As soon as you can pm let me know.
If this is not allowed, delete it, I won't be offended.
www.careycustomrifleco.com
Wow........that's outstanding. :highclap:
Now I just have more stuff to analyze........ :wo:
It could take months for me to make a decision like this...... :innocentwhistle:
I Bought a Bushmaster Predator and i LOVE IT!!! its a 1-8" twist and it shoots all bullets from 50 Grn up to the
Black Hills 69 Grn Sierra match grade Hollow Points,,it LOVES the 69 Grn Black hills but DAMN that ammo is getting hard to come by,i bought 100 rounds BUT shot all but 40 of them up,,so i bought 1000 rounds of some "other" stuff for playing :innocentwhistle:
I havent tried anything smaller than 50 grns in it yet but another guy that has the Predator shoots nothing but 40 grns and he says it is accurate as hell
well MY Predator is accurate as hell to if i do my part,,i liked the 20" Barrel on the Predator,,but with all the "bullshit" bans coming at us now i think i will get 3 more,, and 2 in different calibers,,25wssm 204 and another in 223 but 16" barrel,,NOW if i can get the wife to go along with the,,,but honey WE need to buy these Rifles NOW because they will be OUTLAWED here soon and WE wont be able to buy an AR-15 for you then :innocentwhistle: i will let you know if it worked :wo: But anyone buying the AR Platform WILL LIKE IT!
Bob
Here's what I need ... :eyebrow:
http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=543
For you vvarmitr
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You da man Rich :yoyo: Thanks sooo much!!! :biggrin: :eyebrownod: :biggrin:
Just curious as to how far that target was that they were shooting at. :wo:
Any comments on this round Mr. Carey?
I wonder if an AR with 3 times the power of the old 45ACP Tommy gun is wanted. Or, has the boys from the Harvard business school, thought of a new way to separate us from our money. Nevertheless, the 450 Bushmaster and RRA 458 SOCOM are here.
I just think of it as A pissing contest. We'll see who can hit the ceiling. The 450 & 458 would be something I'd kept next to my bed at night. But what fun would 9 shots be compared to 30? For the price of ammo I just don't see me having fun with them.
For now I'll stay mainstream. ~KT