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Title: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: Troy Walter on July 08, 2007, 07:41:44 PM
iam tyring to make bird distress sounds with no luck.Anybody got any pointers.
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: DirtyDog on July 08, 2007, 07:47:50 PM
I am no expert, but some closed reed calls you can just flutter your tongue and get the sound, but every call will make a different sound. Find one that makes the kind of sound you like. I have a few that sound good. All of them are custom calls.
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: Troy Walter on July 08, 2007, 07:51:52 PM
Thanks but iam trying it on an open reed call it can get the pitch right but can't get that flutter down.
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: FinsnFur on July 08, 2007, 08:12:10 PM
The flutter I believe is accomplished by basically doing the 5th grade machine gun sound with your mouth closed and into the call. You remember doing that sound?

Good, because I could never do it  :nono:
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: Troy Walter on July 08, 2007, 08:23:04 PM
Yes i do no how to do that,and that is a little closer then what I had.Thank you
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: canine on July 08, 2007, 09:05:25 PM
Twalter,

If your open reed call has a castration band on it, slide it down to the tip of the call. Leaving about 3/16 to 1/4 inch of reed left. That will hold the pitch you need, now all you have to do is force air through the call while twilling your tongue.. :wink:


Keep your bird sounds short and fast paced..


JD
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: Jerry Hunsley on July 08, 2007, 09:24:14 PM
Twalter4, I was looking in the forum and came accross your question on how to make a bird distress with open reed. I went out to my work shop and made a little video for you. It is not the best of quality, but I think you will see how it sounds and hopefully help you. Always somebody here to help a guy on somthing. Good luck. (http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g78/cyote_man/th_BirdDistressVideoInstructions.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g78/cyote_man/?action=view&current=BirdDistressVideoInstructions.flv)
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: Hawks Feather on July 08, 2007, 10:30:32 PM
Jerry,

You make that look so easy.  Nice video.

Jerry
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: FinsnFur on July 08, 2007, 10:46:46 PM
Yeah he is such a Jerry  :yoyo:
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: Hawks Feather on July 08, 2007, 10:58:37 PM
Jim,

Are you talking about Jerry or Jerry?   :laf:

Jerry
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: FinsnFur on July 08, 2007, 11:36:03 PM
Exactly  :eyebrownod:
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: ohiobob on July 09, 2007, 12:14:31 AM
I think that was a heck of a deal there,,ask a Question and ya get your own Personal Tutorial/ Video Clip  :biggrin:
That was a VERY GOOD gesture Jerry H  :congrats:
NOW can you go back out to your Shop and MAKE Jim a Clip on HOW to make the 5th Grade Machine Gun noise  :laf:
Bob
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: Red Dog on July 09, 2007, 05:32:47 AM
Great Video. Sure can learn a lot here! Thanks guys :highclap:
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: awh on July 09, 2007, 09:46:31 AM
Quote from: ohiobob on July 09, 2007, 12:14:31 AM

NOW can you go back out to your Shop and MAKE Jim a Clip on HOW to make the 5th Grade Machine Gun noise  :laf:
Bob


:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: FinsnFur on July 09, 2007, 09:55:01 AM
bastids  :innocentwhistle:
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: Troy Walter on July 09, 2007, 10:06:09 AM
Jerry,thank you very much that is what makes this forum the best nice people like you that go out of there way to help people out.Wow I can't believe you made me a video that was to cool.I will practice that Iam sure i can get it now with that help.Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: Troy Walter on July 09, 2007, 10:12:12 AM
I don't know if I should post this here or not but I think Jerry video would be great to put in the distress sound forum at the top of predator hunting forum to help other people out.
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: HaMeR on July 09, 2007, 10:29:31 AM
Cool video Jerry. You've helped more than just one member out with that video!!



Bob-- You better leave Jim alone about that noise makin deal!!  It's not his fault he always had a computer to do it for him!!


:biggrin: :laf: :laf:
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: ohiobob on July 09, 2007, 12:17:47 PM
I WONDER  :wo: IF Red frog can make that noise ??? and I am Talking about the Machine Gun Noise  :laf:
Damn,I am sure SOMEONE on here can help Jim out with that sound,can't they ?  :biggrin:
Bob
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: vvarmitr on July 09, 2007, 03:48:15 PM
Making a growl sound from the back of your throat will do it too.  Grrrrrr, Grrrrrrrr.
:shrug: Works for me.
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: Jerry Hunsley on July 09, 2007, 06:05:12 PM
Thank you Twalter4. That's what these forums are about. No bashing, just good fun. I enjoy doing those videos although I must say the quality is not there. Tomorrow I will put another video on with me calling badgers with bird distress. I spotted some today when I was out and we will see what happens.

I guess it isn't going to happen. I went out at the crack of dawn this moring and I couldn't get them out of the hole. Maybe later. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: bushmaster on August 06, 2007, 03:25:28 AM
Quote from: FinsnFur on July 08, 2007, 08:12:10 PM
The flutter I believe is accomplished by basically doing the 5th grade machine gun sound with your mouth closed and into the call. You remember doing that sound?

Good, because I could never do it  :nono:


I was The MAN in grammar school for my gun emulations!! :laf:  You should see my .50cal machine immitation, teeth chatter an all :roflmao:
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: Rich on August 07, 2007, 10:25:58 AM
Here ya go. http://www.cronkpredatorcalls.com/sounds/coonSpecial.mp3
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: Rich Higgins on August 07, 2007, 06:42:58 PM
Hey Jerry, I need an instructional video about undressing Angelina Jolie. Got anything?
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: FinsnFur on August 07, 2007, 08:43:45 PM
I couldn't make that sound if I wrapped a rubber band around my tongue to help it spin  :nono:
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: Jerry Hunsley on August 07, 2007, 09:03:33 PM
Rich, No I don't but I could make one of my wife if you would like. I have to retract that statement to keep peace. Too many emails.  :laf:
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: Randy Roede on August 07, 2007, 09:21:39 PM
Hey Higgins, the first part would be about making a billion dollars, once you get the billion dollars getting her to acknowledge you and undress for half of the billion dollars will be a snap.
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: wv_yoter on August 13, 2007, 10:01:07 PM
Thank you Jerry and Rich, now I have something to practice along with.                                                                                                                                   
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: caller223 on August 14, 2007, 09:45:44 PM
T,  video shown is great tutorial.  The Verminator Tweety is a commercial call that makes bird calls easy since its higher pitch than some of the louder calls.  Most open reeds works closer to the tip of reed ( higher pitch ).
Richard Grantham
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: KillerCaller! on August 22, 2007, 09:26:58 PM
sorry so late to this party but....
I agree with Richard that the Tweety makes great bird sounds. I make most bird sounds using a rodent/squeaker type call or a small open reed.
The best way, for me, with an open reed is to get 1/4" in on a reed and use constant air from my mouth, not diaphragm and tap the reed end with my tongue. It is yet another way to get away from the rest of the crowd that is using a standard "twittering" woodpecker type sound. It sounds birdish, rodent-like and pup whimperish all at the same time. The Standard is another great call to make this sound on. There are a couple other calls that I like to use but they are hush hush.
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: wv_yoter on August 22, 2007, 09:43:06 PM
Killer, That's a little different than what I'm used to but it sounded pretty good when I tried it, thanks for the tip. :eyebrownod:
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: KillerCaller! on August 23, 2007, 08:22:26 PM
You are welcome WV!
Some people are call addicts, I am a call sound addict. The more sounds that I can make on one call, and sound what I feel to be realistic, the better. I do a lot of experimenting to see what it takes to get different or better.
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: ohiobob on August 25, 2007, 09:26:06 PM
I really NEVER Gave a woodpecker or any Bird in distress a thought,because I DIDN'T have one,,and really didnt hear to much talk about it UNTIL this Post by Twalter4,,but then a few weeks ago I got this African Predator Bone Call from Africa,,it is called the Cat Killer,,anyway I went back to this Thread here and re-read all the stuff by Knowledgable People that are on here,,when I put all these tips to work I was amazed by the Sound,,I wasnt amazed by anything said here or the Cat Killer call
I was amazed that I actually made a half decent sound with my very own Mouth,,,and then Brent and a few other people chimed in that they LOVE using the sound,,so I will have this cat Killer Call on my Lanyard at ALL times
Bob

Here are a few Pics of the African Predator Cat Killer Bone Call

(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z277/ohiohunter55/AfricanPredatorsCatKillerBoneCal-3.jpg)

(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z277/ohiohunter55/AfricanPredatorsCatKillerBoneCal-4.jpg)

and last one
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z277/ohiohunter55/AfricanPredatorsCatKillerBoneCal-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: FinsnFur on August 26, 2007, 02:30:28 AM
KC...how are you tapping the reed with your tongue if you only put it in 1/4"?

I can't trill my tongue, so I'm curious about your method. Also......you must be holding the call upside down to your lips. :confused:
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: KillerCaller! on August 26, 2007, 12:04:19 PM
It is a bit hard to explain but easy to do. Try and create a vacuum with your mouth. Suck on the call with a finger blocking the bell end, creating an air tight seal.
To create the sound, keep that seal-like effect but while pushing the air out, without the finger blocking the bell of course. You want to push the air out and tap your tongue against the back of the toneboard, thus interrupting the air flow. Or you can vary the air pressure using your mouth or diaphragm. It takes some practice to get the right feel for the location on the reed so that it is repeatable. In the end it should sound somewhat like this....... http://media.putfile.com/PsychoTweetyBird or this http://media.putfile.com/PrettyBird
It may not sound like much but you will be amazed at the amount of bird activity you suddenly notice about you. I use them at night and throw in 2 or 3 high pitched fox type barks and if there are fox in the area they will sometimes bark back. Some people don't believe in using bird sounds at night cause it seems out of place. That is exactly why I use them at night. It is out of place and apt to get more attention. I called in my very first predators, 2 fox, using bird sounds so they hold a special place for me.
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: wv_yoter on August 26, 2007, 12:36:02 PM
Killer, they both sounded good and I don't know that I've ever heard anyone do it like that. :congrats:
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: FinsnFur on August 27, 2007, 07:13:57 PM
They do sound good  :eyebrownod:
I'm gonna have to give er a whirl here when the neighbors go to bed.

Oh by the way KC...those to links gave away your identity  :doh2: :eyebrow: :eyebrownod:
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: KillerCaller! on August 27, 2007, 07:47:58 PM
I know they did. I posted the sounds the day before and noticed that the name was on there so I took them off. Then figured, who cares. I haven't sullied their reputation any more than a few admins already have by sending out such an ignorant email. It was fun playing cat and mouse for a while.
It's not my real name anyway. My last name isn't smithers and my first name isn't c. Maybe it's me and maybe it's not. I could have found those sounds and linked to them. No one knows whether it's me, whoever I am, behind that call. Is it or isn't it? Maybe I know a Smithers or a Smothers brother. I like yo-yo's.
My name is Bill Trachzewski from Kenosha, WI. I have been a Badgers fan for 48 years and season ticket holder for the Packers for 31. I can be who and whatever I choose. It's the freakin internet. I could be a 12 year old girl for all anyone knows. :yoyo:
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: vvarmitr on August 27, 2007, 08:54:50 PM
Quote from: KillerCaller! on August 27, 2007, 07:47:58 PM
I could be a 12 year old girl for all anyone knows. :yoyo:

Maybe JD was right about you being a woman? :shrug:
:roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:
Title: Re: Making bird distress sounds
Post by: ohiobob on August 29, 2007, 12:27:55 AM
Quote from: KillerCaller! on August 27, 2007, 07:47:58 PM
I could be a 12 year old girl for all anyone knows. :yoyo:

Is this Chris Hanson from Dateline News,,and is this the "To Catch a Predator" Show  :biggrin: :laf:
Bob