I read post after post, year after year about guys killing all these coyotes. I think it's time some of these "real pros" show up and teach me how to take coyotes at the LBL. Coyotes at LBL are about like the coyotes where I live. Love to live in the thick crap and love laughing at my fatazz.
I hear all this crap about how to take 'em. Next year at the LBL, come an get three or four in two days like you say you do all the time and I will heed more of what you have to say. :wink:
It's easy to talk chit if ya never have to show up in company and get skunked just like the rest of us. I reckon a reputation truly is the hardest thing a man can try and carry.
:innocentwhistle: :readthis:
Quote from: Bopeye on February 04, 2008, 07:06:12 PM
I reckon a reputation truly is the hardest thing a man can try and carry.
:innocentwhistle: :readthis:
Yeah........and after Sat. night you got a BIG one to carry ! :readthis:
Tough crowd , tough crowd :biggrin: . I think our buddy Bop has been framed :wo:
Jeb
Sorry I couldn't make it this year Bop!! :sad: But I gots pictures of both my coyotes if ya wanna see em!! :shrug:
Just lemme know Buddy!! :eyebrow: :laf:
Quote from: HaMeR on February 04, 2008, 07:54:54 PM
Sorry I couldn't make it this year Bop!! :sad: But I gots pictures of both my coyotes if ya wanna see em!! :shrug:
Just lemme know Buddy!! :eyebrow: :laf:
Hamer........ :confused: ...........ya know dang good and well....... :wo: .........oh.......... :doh2:
OK.........show me the pictures....... :laf:
Quote from: straycat on February 04, 2008, 07:25:41 PM
Quote from: Bopeye on February 04, 2008, 07:06:12 PM
I reckon a reputation truly is the hardest thing a man can try and carry.
:innocentwhistle: :readthis:
Yeah........and after Sat. night you got a BIG one to carry ! :readthis:
BITE ME STRAY :laf: :laf:
OK!! :biggrin:
#1
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/grs204/1stcoyote004a.jpg)
#2
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/grs204/2ndcoyote004.jpg)
:laf: :laf:
YOU DA MAN HAMER!!! :yoyo: :yoyo:
eyyyyy Glen you were holding out on us :shck: I dont recall seeing that first one. :yoyo:
REAL COYOTE HUNTERS?...............I think you may have a few of them on this site.
So because we dont go to the LBL we are not "real coyote hunters" ???
Because we help people on the board with their questions as best we can we are all talk and no acton?
Hmmmmm ..... what't that sign in your Avitar say?
AL
:confused: I don't claim to be a pro at hunting coyotes, but I do give it my best shot!!! If I don't kill tons of coyotes so be it, I still got out and did it. And in case you didn't know, I am paralyzed from the waist down!! I hate it when people give me crap about hunting and not killing something!! Some people forget how difficult it can be for some to get out and hunt. If it was just about the killing I think I would quit hunting all together!!! Some people are just narrow minded about hunting and the true reward of hunting.
The LBL is a different ball game for sure. I hunted the TN side this year targeting Bobcats for Muss but I will say, I only seen one fresh set of fresh Coyote tracks in two days of hunting. I wasn't in the areas that I would of been if looking for Coyotes but still one set of fresh tracks? I didn't see much small game either, one rabbit crossing the road and one squirrel. I seen a ton of deer and Turkey but not much small game at all.
Maybe just the areas I was in, not sure. But I would of thought I would of seen allot more sign over there than I did. I would like to see a population study on the Tn side of the LBL. From what I seen this year, the KY side has it beat hands down on Coyotes and Cats. I know they let the Beavers flood one of the best cat areas I found over there.
To be honest if I was looking for numbers the LBL would be the last place I would pick, I would stay on my home turf were the odds and work in preparation for the season would be in my favor.
We had some guys do real good there this year. First cats first Coyotes. I thought for the area we were all hunting the count was pretty good! The LBL gets hunted allot harder than people think, and the winds there are killer, not counting the hikers, other hunters and horse riders. This place has people in the woods year around about every day.
Brent
put some wings on them dogs and I might do alright :eyebrow:
Damnit Bop, some of us have to work :pout:
I see you came back a movie star :biggrin: :yoyo:
JD
Some of ya need to get your damn feelings off your sleeves. Some of the most bullshit answers I ever heard and the guys that responded weren't even people I had in mind.
:rolleye:
Bop, what ya have hee-ah is fay-yah to comune-i-kate. :readthis:
Ya got some of these boys a thinkin youse are talkin about 'em and I KNOWS YA AIN'T, SON. :nono:
Dad
I know what ya meant maybe, I just wanted to comment back to try n be funny :biggrin:
Jim-- That one came in in August while I was groundhog hunting. I had just gotten a new hand call & grabbed it out of the truck to see how it sounded when low & behold here comes a pair to my right from upwind. I clocked the 1st one with the FireBall & the 2nd one lit the afterburners & was G O N E!! :laf: And right where I'm standing in the 1st pic is where I was setting for the 2nd coyote. Just to the right of me in the woodsline. There was at most 50yds between the 2 shots.
I gotcha Bop!! :biggrin: Kinda like you "LBL SUX" post. :wink: Thats why I posted what I did AND the pics of BOTH my coyotes!! :roflmao: These 2 lucky incidents doesn't make me a professional but I thought I would have some fun with your post. :biggrin:
ya aren't talkin bout me are ya?
I have to say Brent's reply fits the situation pretty well. The word I got from friends who live in the general area of LBL say that place is trapped hard and hunted hard, and also used hard by people who have other recreational interests. If I could have gone to the LBL shebang, I would have been going to meet some of you guys and share some ideas. Anybody who went down there thinking they were going to kill a bunch of coyotes was in for a surprise. Coyotes are hard enough to outsmart anywhere in Kentucky, but areas like LBL are much harder to score in. Old Jimmie ought to be able to fill in a lot of useful info on this subject.
I just got a call from Bop. He is at work and the firewall that they have will allow him to view, but not allow him to post so he asked if I would put this up for him.
He made the post as a joke and was poking fun at himself for not being able to put any fur on the ground at the LBL. He wasn't calling anyone out or anything like that. He said that he would like to have more people come to the LBL so that he could meet them and have a good time, but not really to give him lessons or to prove that they could hunt. He was afraid that this thread would get out of hand with people thinking he was upset, when that wasn't the case. He will be back online after work.
Jerry
P.S. I feel kind of left out. I didn't even get a BITE ME. :biggrin:
Hell Bop i thought all the hunters was out west!Boy i will get it for that one probably!!LOL If there is anyone who thinks Bopeye is taking shots at them obviously u don't know Bop very well!!
I feel your pain Bopeye,whats is it now five or six years that u have been going to LBL and no score!I wasn't able to make it this year but i had hunted the past two and all i got was a glimpse of one!AND I WAS HUNTING WITH THE RICHARD BAXTER so i guess your out of luck!!!!!LOL
Horse Pucky Hawk. Don't go defending him. He got himself into this, now he can pull up his big boy pants and get himself out of it.
Pretty much, the way I am reading it now is:
I aint a real coyote hunter
I'm all talk and no action
and if that's not bad enough...
I'm supposed to be Psychic too.
Let's just see how deep a hole this old boy can dig himself?
It's almost like he moved to Texas to make videos or something after the LBL.
What's next? Seminars? Endorsements? Magazine articles?
At least I'll be able to say "I knew him when" :roflmao:
Al
I agree that if you wanna find REAL coyote hunters, ya gotta go out west. Or at least they will tell you that all day long.
My question is, why the LBL? I know it is a big peice of land with a variety of landscapes but if it is used 24/7 365 then maybe there is another place to go.
As far as eastern hunters go, we have to get out and scout, look at google pics, contend with small and posted property walk alot if not more and do a host of other junk just to get land to hunt. Then find out if that land even holds Coyotes and if it does plan the PERFECT set-up. And still most times we get skunked.
Out west is not even close to that amount of work to kill any thing. I would like to see the "real" coyote hunters from the west even keep up with us in out terrian, never mind begin to know where to look.
So in that I said, we are "real" hunters. Hunting isn't all killing.
Well.... I knew he wasn't referring to me :wo: though that kinda hurts my feelings ...... I think I am a real coyote hunter unless your definition is based just on numbers of critters down. :wo: and it seems to me that I made a fair number of stands with guys I also think are real coyote hunters :wo: and my butt is still dragging from Friday's 'hike and hunt' :eyebrownod:
The LBL hunt [to me] is not so much about putting fur down, though I tip my hat to the fellas that got er done. If it was, I'm not sure I would pick going to a place I didn't know and hadn't scouted, especially at the same time when 30+ other guys were hunting. In the two years I have been lucky enough to make it, I haven't even seen a dog and sign this year on the TN side was scarcer than it is around here. Na, the highlight of the LBL for me is the times when folks gather together and the bull starts flying ;yes; Having the restaurant open this year gave us more of that [Thanks Jimmie!!]. 30+ guys arse to elbow in one of them cabins slobbering over some beautiful calls and other assorted goodies [many from folks that couldn't even come, but some how know how special a gathering like that is] is a sight to behold.
Now I know Bop and he can get wound up at times :doh2: He probably just made this post when he happened to be near the keyboard and there was still tears in his eyes from plucking a wild hair out of his.... ah...er.... chewing gum :shrug:
PS.... this east/west thing seems pretty silly to me when you go beyond the obvious differences of terrain and numbers. .... :wo: kinda like me saying vvarminter don't know nothing about hunting ground hogs cause he is lucky enough to live in an area that has a bunch. Why not just take what folks have to offer and dismiss what ya think ain't worth keeping or doesn't apply to your situation? As far as people making money off what they know or claim to know..... I never had a problem taking responsibility for what I choose to spend my money on and there are just as many if not more shady players in all the other things that take up the lions share of what I spend on. Getting bent out of shape in the activity I look to for enjoyment kinda defeats the purpose.
I had the pleasure to hunt west of the Mississippi for several days before heading to LBL. The terrain wasn't all that different than around here, but the sign was. We made 20+ dry stands before having a dog come in....... it sure didn't feel like ducks in a barrel to me :nofgr:
well I was joking with him but obviously it went over poorly.
I'm just a guy who likes to hunt. No expert at all, so from now, just like with the calls, I will keep my opinions to myself.
Maybe one day I will get to go out west and see how it really is. Doesn't make a difference on way or the other to me though. Hunting is hunting and if you get to go, that;s a good thing.
Al
First is the size of the LBL, an area large enough to handle all that would come to such a little get together.
Two, the coyotes here are such a challenge that they are perfect for the more advanced hunter.They let you know real quick if your not on your game. I blew my chance at the trophy of a lifetime because I let my guard down and was not prepared.And sometimes they even seem to have a sense of humor, they will mark their territory on your tires and trail :laf:
Numbers of animals is also high enough that we can spend a half day with a newbie and teach many things whether an animal is taken or not. I took Bill into an area where he was able to see all that group does within a couple of miles of road. These groups have much smaller territories than you will find at home. They showed me where they were going to feed, what they were feeding on, and gave me at least a half an idea of where they were bedding. A beginer can learn more about reading sign in a few hours than he could learn in years on his own!!
Now under these very tough conditions they took six coyotes and a bobcat in just a couple of days hunting. This was an area they did not know before hand for many of them. Numbers of animals that came in was pretty darned good as usual. From what they talked about it was again around thirty animals called in total. I had two of those myself, wind shift and being asleep at the wheel were my problems.
The facilities themselves are also a great draw. The folks there are happy to see us every year. The money we spend helps to keep them open during th off season. They have bent over backwards to help us and themselves each and every year from the beginnning. They are located right in the heart of the area, making it very easy to be hunting within minutes of leaving camp if you so wish .
Yes there are many others using the area. How many depends a lot on the weather conditions that year. Thjis year it happens that it stayed much drier and warmer than normal. Making it very dificult to pattern the coyotes because they were changing bedding areas all the time.The weather saturday was very warm making it more likely for all sorts of folks to be out wandering around. They visit the graves and old homeplaces of their ancestors and sometimes just get out to get rid of cabin fever. Itrs all part of the experience of the LBL. I get to talk to all sorts of folks there. they ask questions and learn about hwat we do. It's a great oportunioty for public relations with non hunters that come to the area. I have come to love that place in all these years of working with this gathering of friends.
If you come down the fellows and other people you meet along with the LBL will find a fond spot in your heart as well. :biggrin: Jimmie
I've been fooling with this coyote hunting thing about a year now and am convinced it ain't rocket science. Ya just got a be in the right place at the right time. And that's the hard part for me. Finding sign in a good lookin area, the right setup, wind direction and then hoping they can hear me.
I've hunted the LBL on and off for years. EVERYTHING in the LBL is tough. Talk about call shy turkeys! Go to the LBL and they will educate you real quick! :eyebrownod:
I like the FnF LBL hunt because I get to meet some great guys and learn something about coyote hunting. I plan to keep going every year. :biggrin:
Semp
LBL is an awesome place, alot of land and alot of animals. I find the fun part is to outsmart the animal I am hunting. I am new to coyote hunting, but I know that when I do outsmart one, then all of the hard work will be worth it. And then I will start all over again.
Lot of love for the western hunters :shrug:.
Nothing wrong with the western hunters :highclap: ! Hope to get out out west one day for some predator hunting. In most places far east its just a different ballgame than you see on videos made out west.
Jeb
+1 to what Jeb said. I would luv to hunt out west. I've got to figure out a way to get out there before I get too old to cut the mustard anymore. :biggrin:
Quotewell I was joking with him...
Al, buddy...Good to see you're making progress. :biggrin:
Ya ever notice the guys that travel all over the country coyote hunting?
Yet they never seem to end up at the LBL, except for guys like Kee. All I was trying to do is get some of them to start showing up at the LBL. Was I talking shit? You damn right I was.
Was it intended for anyone that has replied to this? Hell no.
THO, I still believe, is a friend of mine and a heck of a call maker. Just because we get our wires crossed and I get pissed is hardly any reason to dismiss that. I apologize for not catching the humor Al. I have no excuse other than I just thought you were serious. :iroll:
You have been kind enough to send many calls and lanyards for me and my kids on many occasions. You have been one heck of a donator when it comes to any kind of event. My hats off to you.
Having said that, I was not talking about you in this thread. Next time I talk about you, I'll say something like "Al, ya big turd" or something like that. Then we won't have any misunderstanding. :wink:
Browning, I can assure you I wasn't talking about you either. I said "REAL COYOTE HUNTERS"...... :laf:
The fella in the wheelchair, are ya serious? How in the hell would you even remotely think I was busting your balls when I don't even know who you are? I am dang proud that you get out and get after them and don't let a handicap hinder you so rest easy partner.
:sneer:
The rest, c'mon, I really thought you knew me better than that. You know dang good and well why the LBL was started and if not go here http://www.easterncoyotes.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=45 (http://www.easterncoyotes.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=45)
The guys I was trying to flush out some are dudes like Criner that get's to travel the world, but won't come visit us. George Ackley that kills coyotes all over but won't come visit us. I'd love to meet these guys in person. We are all part of a very small fraternity and I like to meet folks face to face.
Like me or hate me, I could give a flying rat's ass, but I do enjoy people. Am I over the top.......yep. Do I have the adult version of ADHD......probably. Am I gonna change......don't bet on it. This thread was suppose to be fun, but what the hell. Gotta have some bad ones every now and then to know when your having a good one.
This is the FATAZZ, James D. Holbrook signing off........... :yahoo:
Quote from: yucca on February 05, 2008, 02:08:11 PM
Lot of love for the western hunters :shrug:.
Hard to love someone you're sooo envious of! :laf:
Now iffen you come to Ohio & let me buy you lunch between stands I could start warming up to you. :shrug:
BITE ME BOP!!
I DIDN'T MAKE THE LIST :wink:
I knew ya was just horsin around....so was I with my reply!
JD
Never though that you where talkin about me, And I did catch the REAL part.
DAMMIT!! I thought for sure he was talkin about me!!!!!! :argh: After all I've shot twice as many as VV & Bill combined!!
:eyebrow:
:roflmao: :roflmao:
We'll get you one this Saturday if you're still up for the hunt Bill!! :wink:
Bop,,,
your dates and are dates were the same time this year .. you where at the LBL and I was up in Maine on the Eastern hunt In Stratton Ma, we have been doing are hunt there for 3 years..
I am not shore why you are pointing me out :wo: :wo: :wo:
Real coyote hunter :confused: lets just say everything about me is real and leave it at that :wink:
FOR NOW THIS EASTERN BOY IS HEADING TO GLOBE :wink:
AFTER READING YOUR FIRST POST I FEEL I NEED A NEW REPLY
YOU SAID
I read post after post, year after year about guys killing all these coyotes. I think it's time some of these "real pros" show up and teach me how to take coyotes at the LBL. Coyotes at LBL are about like the coyotes where I live. Love to live in the thick crap and love laughing at my fatazz.
I have read this again and still don't see what I could teach ya buddy boy, I TO live in a un friendly place to call
YOU GO ON TO SAY
[I hear all this crap about how to take 'em.
/b]
when have i told you how to take them!!!
THEN THIS
Next year at the LBL, come an get three or four in two days like you say you do all the time and I will heed more of what you have to say.
Again buddyboy,, what are you talking about?? when and what have i said?
THEN YOU SAID THIS
It's easy to talk chit if ya never have to show up in company and get skunked just like the rest of us. I reckon a reputation truly is the hardest thing a man can try and carry.
(reputation) I have no reputation Kid!!! i have no videos up on youtube!!! I have no one sending me calls!!! I have no web site talking about how to kill eastern dogs!!!!!
you do my friend :confused:
and you didn't kill anything at lbl,
so if you need to call me out to make you look better then so be it , that's just like so many on line callers out there trying to make a name for them self.
So let me say this , If you need me to come anywhere so you can try me just strait out ask me pal because
there are 3 things in life i love to do and calling is one of them and the other 2 i am just as good at :eyebrow:
bottom line any where any time just be prepared to deal with a guy like me :wink:
George
Damn, this thread is getting out of context. George, I don't think Bopeye was trying to insult anyone, but would genuinely like to meet some of the better hunters, and would like them to come to LBL. I think he recognizes you as a good coyote hunter, as he does some of the others who post about kills and techniques. A lot of misunderstanding on a post that was meant to be fun. At least that's my take on it. Hell, he may have been poking fun at me too. I have no idea, but if he is, I'll laugh with him. :biggrin: :laf:
I think the important thing to realize is that we are all REAL COYOTE HUNTERS. We all really hunt coyote, to be exact. Some are more experienced that others. As with anything luck plays a huge role.
I have worked with dogs for a long time, granted domesticated dogs, but dogs is dogs. They all have instinct and intellegence. And just when you think you have figured them out, They can make you look stupid, andf they do have a sense of humor.
Hey Bop, this is not aimed at you or anyone else. This looked like a good conversation and I wanted to get my pennies in.
Goerge, you need to get down here and meet Bop in person. Ya can't he'p but like the boy. He do get wound up at times. It agravates the snot out of him that the LBL monkey is riding his back hard and he just can't shake him. I too would like to meet you myself if you could ever make it. Bop's post was just his way of inviting all to come next year and join the fun. He needs a bigger audience for his shenanigans :eyebrownod: Jimmie
Quote from: possumal on February 06, 2008, 10:46:03 AM
Damn, this thread is getting out of context. George, I don't think Bopeye was trying to insult anyone, but would genuinely like to meet some of the better hunters, and would like them to come to LBL. I think he recognizes you as a good coyote hunter, as he does some of the others who post about kills and techniques. A lot of misunderstanding on a post that was meant to be fun. At least that's my take on it. Hell, he may have been poking fun at me too. I have no idea, but if he is, I'll laugh with him. :biggrin: :laf:
This is exactly they way I looked at it and even laughed at the ole Bop. I too am one that seems to never show up at the LBL but I will have to break that and start going like I say I will. From the looks of some posts :shrug: you would think Bop fired the first shot at Ft Sumnter !! Spend 2 minutes around him and I promise you will be laughing your ass off. :roflmao:
Jeb
Quote from: George Ackley on February 06, 2008, 10:15:32 AM
bottom line any where any time just be prepared to deal with a guy like me :wink:
George
ALRIGHTY THEN!!!
Anywhere? Land Between the Lakes
Anytime? February 2009
Thanks a bunch George, I appreciate it and look forward to meeting you. :wink: :biggrin:
LOL That was easy enough Bop , how many more to go ? :laf: :roflmao: :laf: :roflmao:
Jeb
Hey Bop, er....Son
I been a thinkin (not good I know).....let's see now.....You've been skunked at LBL for all these years.....I (on the other hand) just started huntin yotes a year ago and killed my first one at LBL this year.....hmmm.......I'm a thinkin I'm a REAL COYOTE HUNTER and I'd be more than happy to give ya a few pointers. :biggrin:
BWAAAAAAA!!!!! :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
Just kiddin, son.. let's not get our panties in a wad. :roflmao: :roflmao:
Just think, Bop, all this crap when you were just trying to get your gay award presented on time. If someone ever posts that picture I keep hearing about, rumors might start flying like geese. :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
WTG George Ackley!!! :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
I bet you had ol' Bopster studdering there for a minute. :bowingsmilie:
Sure would be great to meet ya at the LBL. :eyebrow:
you got it 09 it is :wink:
I may even have to make a trip out to LBL in a couple weeks just to see the place
and see if this big city boy can kill couple critters
but first this eastern caller is going to globe
Quote from: George Ackley on February 06, 2008, 05:33:54 PM
you got it 09 it is :wink:
I may even have to make a trip out to LBL in a couple weeks just to see the place
and see if this big city boy can kill couple critters
but first this eastern caller is going to globe
Goodluck George , let us know how the trip went.
Jeb
George, If your planning on stopping when ya come back holler and let me know. As long as we can get in there before the end of the month we can hunt. Unless your planning a late spring hunt for yard birds or the crappie run :biggrin: Jimmie
I got George to come and all y'all can do is poke fun at me......... :confused: :eyebrownod: :wo:
Now where is that big weiner Stevie Criner......or is that winer? ....... :biggrin:
Does anyone know if Criner still hunts nekkid? :puke: :doh2:
Surely you jest VV......do you think I could possibly studder...... :nono:
Hey Possumal you need to come as well. Just as soon as I get my "gay award" maybe you and I can have a picture made together....... :eyebrow: :innocentwhistle: :wink:
Hey, boys , simmer down. You fellas think it is easy out here in the West. Not so , where I live. I live in the Midwest and let me tell you, there is a lot of work that goes into finding and killing coyotes out here. The mange has wiped out a very large population of coyotes. Here is a little story I would like to tell. This last week-end , I rode along with a friend and checked his traps. One mangey coyote is all. We drove 50 miles South of town. Then we drove another 30 miles West and made many, many stops and tried locating with siren and group howls. We had one group of coyotes answer. We set up closer to where we heard them and no luck. We tried locating in some magnificant areas and never heard or saw one coyote all day, so please don't think the West is easy. True, in certain spots there are lots of coyotes. Kansas seems to have lots of coyotes. We still have to get out and do our scouting for contests just like you guys. The guys that do well do just that. The whole key is having enough ground and be mobile enough to cover it in a day or two. You can't kill numbers if you don't have em. You can be the best caller around and without numbers you will be just like where you guys hunt. So for me to come down there and hunt, I probably would get skunked just like you guys. Our areas are wide open and you can hunt them year after year and expect coyotes to be in those very same area. I have seen our areas go from excellent to real shitty over the last few years. You could drive around and see 15 or 20 or more coyotes just driving around , but not now. In talking to a friend we both agree that this mange isn't going to clean up until we have a lot of hard ,sustained cold winters. That's what it is going to take to clear up the mange. I pray to God you don't get it your way. The rabbit population has exploded which is probably because less coyotes. I'm not sure on that. I do know the litter sizes are larger in our area because we don't have the densities we used to. So we are kinda in the same boat. I have found that there are still some isolated areas where mange hasn't been a problem yet. The secrect if you hunt for the fur is to find these places. So you see ,we have problems out this way also. I hunt coyotes and trap just like you guys and I don't pretend to be any better than anyone else. I hunt and trap because that is my bag and will as long as I am able to. One last thing. Our coyotes in the sheep and cattle country are hunted from the air, year around in problem areas. We have 19 full time trappers in the State of South Dakota, plus all the recreational callers. Every rancher carries a rifle which is legal and they shoot them year around. We have snowmobilers do a number on them when there is snow and they are especially vulnerable . It's a wonder there are any left.
Jerry: That is sad news about the mange problem. Sorry to hear that. I have often wondered if all those guys hunting the coyotes with greyhounds and kill dogs would have any effect on using the decoy dogs like Wiley. Hunting them from the air, from snowmobiles, with greyhounds, and now the mange. All that adds up to tough hunting for you.
Bopeye, you big rascal. We got to get this missing picture thing worked out before we make any future plans. I heard it seemed to put you and Brent in a compromising position. :roflmao: :roflmao:
:eyebrownod: Ok, maybe I should explain my taking exception to what was said, I think you need to see what I have had to deal with lately. i have a guy that is always on me about my hunting, and I mean he is vicious about it. He says that I am horrible at hunting and that I don't do it right and I should be hunting where the deer are or that I don't really have any good spots to hunt and that I talk a good game but I never have anything to show for it!! I constantly hear this from him. I would love to walk away but I work with him!!! It never ends. He thinks hunting is all about killing, my philosophy is a little different being disabled. If I get deer close, and I mean within bow range and I don't get a shot, this is a success, but to him I am a lousy hunter. I hunt with a great group of friends, but I get a little frustrated that sometimes I don't get something and they do, but they take me out and if I shoot a deer they show up to help me find it and clean it. I have my sucesses in my opinion, but this guy whose name is Jeff browbeats me constatly that I suck as a hunter. I know I shouldn't let it get under my skin, but when I wrote my original response I had just spent several hours trying to ignore his comments and I did take exception to what was written. I should have been a little less upset with Jeffs comments and not vented my frustration here, but I did and it happens. So please forgive my vent in my first response and try to understand me frustration.
If I get the chance next year, I would love to come hunt the LBL if I could maybe get a little help getting into the field.
Kuipdog-- It's a shame Jeff doesn't have a clue. :rolleye: I believe you are a skilled hunter to get game within bowrange while in a wheelchair. That can't be easy trying to hide on the ground & keep things hidden. I would hunt with you any day of the year!! :thumb2: I'm not so sure I can say that about Jeff tho. :rolleye: And I'm sure he's a nice guy but he just doesn't have a clue. :rolleye:
Quote from: Kuipdog on February 06, 2008, 11:04:09 PM
If I get the chance next year, I would love to come hunt the LBL if I could maybe get a little help getting into the field.
We have a couple of guys that hunt our annual hunt that are disabled. Both are wheelchair bound. They never have any excuses they just like to hunt like everyone else.
Here is one checking his coyotes in with his son.
(http://wassonhuntingservices.com/phpBB/userpix/4_bringing_them_in_1.jpg)
Kuipdog don't let anyone get you down just get out and have some fun.
Sorry you have to deal with such an idiot Kuipdog. He has no right to speak to anyone in such a manner, and I mean anyone handicapped or not. We all have to deal with our own skill levels and knowledge. The fact that you have worked hard enough to get within bow range of a whitetail says more for you than most of the folks I know.
If you wish to come down here I will personally see to it that you have a quality experience with us. Let me know what your limitations are and what you might need. The cabins are handicap accescible so that is no problem. Not sure about he facilities at the shower house but I can find out. Bring a friend along as well that can help and would enjoy the trip too. If your vehicle is equipped for you let me know what it is so I can scout accordingly for access. I already have one place in mind if the winds co-operate. Jimmie
There you go Kuipdog!! :thumb2: :thumb2:
And if you bring Jeff along make sure you have plenty of duct tape. :wink:
The B area shower house is handicap accessible for sure.
Glen, I like the duct tape idea :yoyo:
You do realize that if he comes I will be in your honey hole don't you WV :eyebrownod: Jimmie
Well I love all of you. :doh2: The only good thing that came out of this post was I got to hear from one of my personal heros which happens to be Jerry Hunsley and I got George Ackley steamed up enough to come hunt with us. :wink:
Outside of that, this post didn't accomplish much but hurt some feelings. I hope you guys can just remember that I am taking a 12 step course to help me not blame Yankees for everything and that I bought three of Jenny Craig's plans......be losing weight in no time ....... :eyebrownod:
Maybe I'll be better real soon and you guys can go back to loving me.......... :nono: :innocentwhistle: :biggrin:
Having said that, each of you can
BITE ME! :laf: :biggrin: :yoyo: :highclap:
Hey... I'm not a "real" coyote hunter either but I do play one on the internet. :roflmao:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v50/coyotehunter_1/coyote2.jpg)
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That's O.K. Jimmie, I'd like to see him get one or two. :biggrin:
I got George Ackley steamed up enough to come hunt with us.
HUNT ???? 09 IS A CONTEST :biggrin:
Shoooooooot Bopeye you didnt hurt my feelins atall, and I just gotsta say I LUV YA MAN :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
Kuipdog, I would be honored :bowingsmilie: to hunt with you at the next LBL hunt as I believe all of us would, and nobody would say any thing if you didnt kill out, if they do you just let me know and I'll take care of it. After all its not about the killin its about the huntin thats why its called HUNTING. just ask Bopeye he's one of our best hunters..... :readthis:
Bopeye: You know that all us nuts love you, so why would any of us get mad at you cutting up? You am a wild and crazy guy! :laf: :biggrin: :laf: :biggrin:
Quote from: George Ackley on February 07, 2008, 09:31:21 PM
I got George Ackley steamed up enough to come hunt with us.
HUNT ???? 09 IS A CONTEST :biggrin:
Fair enough. Whatever get's your happy butt here............ :laf:
If I lose what happens? :wo:
Better yet, if I win what do I get? :laf:
It'll be the same thing it has been every year. A lot of fun. There's no money to be made. No sponsors to stroke. It won't even make ya famous, such as Globe does.......... :nono:
It's just bragging rights for a year and I'm well past due........ :eyebrownod:
I feed my family with my job. I have my fun taking my gun for a walk. I never mix business with pleasure. :wink:
See ya in 09 Papa George........ :yoyo:
QuoteSee ya in 09 Papa George........ :yoyo:
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It's on now!! Popeye VS Bopeye LBL "09!! Be There!! :laf: :laf: Otter be a goodun!!
don take it serious kid i am just playing with ya , like you where with me in your post..
I to think you be a fun guy to hunt with :bowingsmilie:[/size]
besides there is no fun hunting against a eastern boy every one knows they don't know what they are doing right :roflmao: :roflmao:
SO BE GOOD KID, AND IN 09 I WILL BRING THE Jack
George
I just wanna get a pic of em together. I think george is something like 6ft 8 and bop is what 5ft8 maybe smaller?
Hey Little Buddy: You want a pix of George & Bop together get your tushy to the LBL & take it yourself! Besides I could use a hunting buddy. :wink:
i'll be there this year. i felt like crap about not being able to go last time. maybe me and george can hook up and head down together?
Quote from: bigben on February 08, 2008, 08:23:57 AM
I just wanna get a pic of em together. I think george is something like 6ft 8 and bop is what 5ft8 maybe smaller?
Bop will probably tell ya he's 5ft8 by 5ft8. :nono:
Understanding the coyote is not as important as knowing where they are.
Once you figure out where they are, then you can figure out the best way to snipe one.
Coyotes are creatures of habit and the best way to figure them out is to talk to the people that see them regularly. People are creatures of habit as well.
You'll hear farmers say that they always see a coyote crossing his field at the same time every day. That's because the farmer is in that particular spot the same time ever day as well.
A few years ago I talked a farmer into starting up his tractor in the dead of winter and drive around a field 3 or 4 times. The reasoning was that the sound of the tractor tends to draw coyotes. It worked but I missed the coyote. Sometimes you have to think out of the box.
For you guys in Tennessee,
If you wanna go dancing, you gotta know where the dance hall is.
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Now see - here we go again. A western guy tell an eastern guy how to do things.
Everyone in Tenn. knows if you want to go dancing you go to the Family Reunion. :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
(sorry, it was like a hanging curve ball, you just gotta swing at it)
AL
That one made me laugh out loud.
I gotta do some work on my similies or whatever the heck tey're called.
This is fun.
How about this one...
If you wanna drink milk, you gotta find a cow first. :iroll:
To answer the original question of where's the real coyote hunters my guess would be that either they're 70 - 80 years old or dead.
OK, now leave my wife out of this.
AL
Damn :doh2:
That's what she gets for not letting me go to the LBL this year :)
Al
Uncle Jay: I am glad you made that post. I have often wondered why coyote hunters forget to do the most important part of scouting---ask the farmers, the rural postal carrier, etc.. They are there all the time, just like the coyotes, and sure give out some good information. Your smilies are fine! :yoyo: :yoyo:
What was this thread about again? :wo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
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Screw all you guys !!!! That's it, I'm tired of this East vs. West crap !!!! :mad2:
East is harder, west is easier,,,, no west isn't easier, we're just better,,,
we can call em over there, no ya can't,,,,,, east and west, west and east,
blah blah blah :madd: :mad3:
What about us central guys,, huh? We're just here in the middle, kinda get left out of everything. :pout: :sick2:
It's tough huntin here too. doesn't mean we don't know how to hunt. :rolleye:
Can't ya include us in the arguements sometimes. :sarcas3: :sarcas3:
We have feelings too ya know. :noway: :sad3: :sad2:
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Sorry Iahntr..............would a big fat "BITE ME" make ya feel any better......... :eyebrownod:
please,,, :sad3:
that'd be a start, :iroll:
Mr Bopeye,
Call your taxidermist and get a price on a full body coyote mount ,,
Because ifin you don't get a coyote by the last day of the 09 hunt, I am fixing to take you out and help you with getting a LBL dog on the ground kid, it's the least I can do for the invite.
look's like me and Big Ben just my be rolling in to the LBL camps in 09
Uncle Jay,
Good advice,but i also have some wisdom to share.
The things about are dance halls are they are small, and I must be ugly, cause when I do find them they don't wont to dance much :confused:
Now in the south west of the US, It seams there are dance halls every where, it like you can fall right out of one and into another. and the dancing,,It is insane , As ugly as I am when I am out there! I seams i cant stop dancing.
So i will invite you to PA and maybe you can show me a couple new steps :bowingsmilie:
George,
Good deal! I look forward to seeing you next year at the LBL! Sounds like plans for a good time! :biggrin:
Tell my old buddy I said Hi, when your setting a stand with him at Globe!
Brent
it was nice meeting you today george. I was standing there talking to a buddy of mine at the eastern sports and outdoor show and a big fella(I was looking up at him) comes up and says are you bigben? yup I reply and you look like george ackley.
sounds like a plan george. I am heading down there in 09 no matter if I drive myself.
Hey, Little Buddy maybe we can meet up & caravan down. :eyebrow:
I'll probably be driving Bill's bean puckered butt down again, so I wouldn't ask ya to take your life into your hands by riding w/ us. :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
Ben I am going,,, it looks like the northeast hunt will be happening later in the year next year.
It was cool seeing ya there at the show sorry i was short but i had a commitment i had to get to.
I am hopping to meet the next time Aaron has a get to gather at his camp.
What a blast
I am going to have to get up with Weedwalker and make to LBL next year
kyfuzzyface, we can do that. I've already told my job I'm taking a 4 day weekend next February. :wink:
Me too Weed. I'm gonna take the whole week off. Give me time to bs, hunt, scout, bs, eat, scout, bs, meet George and Ben and whoever else is coming. I love meeting new folks and sometimes I even shut up long enough to learn from them. Best teacher I had this year was Topdawg........now that boy knows how to get'em....... :eyebrownod:
I think Paint might be wanting to add something here to, but I'm not sure. Paint!! Oh Paint!! Anything to add son? :roflmao:
Quote from: Bopeye on February 11, 2008, 11:21:05 PM
sometimes I even shut up long enough to learn from them.
I must not have been around when that moment happen. :confused:
:laf: :laf: :laf:
VV
There are silent pauses during the silverback and sumo poses where ya might get a word in edgewise. :roflmao:
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: @ Semp
Okay I remember. Your right, but I was eating chile at the time & had my mouth full so I couldn't take advantage of the opportunity. :laf:
Even though I hold you both in the highest regards, I must bequeath thee with this permanent honor........... :eyebrownod:
BITE ME !!!
yeah that you like to crawfish :roflmao:
so you like my stalk and spot method bop. :fingerx: :thumb2: :roflmao:
when does most everyone show up? I hope to atleast be there for three full days of hunting.
Quote from: topdawg on February 12, 2008, 03:05:02 PM
so you like my stalk and spot method bop. :fingerx: :thumb2: :roflmao:
Absolutely LOVE it...... :wink:
Quote from: bigben on February 12, 2008, 04:31:44 PM
when does most everyone show up? I hope to atleast be there for three full days of hunting.
I should have waited for the LBL experts to speak. :doh2: :shrug:
Semp
Hunt is first full weekend of the month of feb. Many will arrive by thursday and stay through sunday or monday. Just depends on how much they like a butt kicking by the coyotes . :wink: Jimmie
Looks like next years is Feb 6,7, & 8