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Title: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: cathryn on August 30, 2008, 12:31:35 PM
(http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r446/trappingal/IMG_0134.jpg)


(http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r446/trappingal/IMG_0136.jpg)
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: FinsnFur on August 30, 2008, 12:36:03 PM
A very ugly one  :sad3:
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: weedwalker on August 30, 2008, 12:40:49 PM
It's either a king snake or an eastern milk snake. Looks more like the king snake. Both are good to have around the barn for rodent control.


   
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: Hawks Feather on August 30, 2008, 12:45:13 PM
Not real sure, but I think it is a DEAD one.

Jerry
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: coyotehunter_1 on August 30, 2008, 12:54:27 PM
:shrug: Yep, looks to be a dead one to me too, Jerry. :laf:




I do believe that what's called a whip snake and/or corn (king) snake around here, a young one. Quite harmless unless you're a mouse or deathly afraid of snakes.

The pupils of it's eyes will be round, like ours... unlike the cat's eyes of poisonous vipers. Also notice the long, slender and keenly pointed tail, one more indication of being a nonpoisonous species.
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: weedwalker on August 30, 2008, 01:02:27 PM
Quote from: coyotehunter_1 on August 30, 2008, 12:54:27 PM
The pupils of it's eyes will be round

Those pupils look flat to me. :biggrin:
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: coyotehunter_1 on August 30, 2008, 01:12:34 PM
 ^^^ :laf:  :eyebrownod:

Yep, along with the rest of it's head  :wink:   



Edit: One of the most dangerous things about snakes is having a hunting partner that don't care for them... in any variety.

Especially when he's walking ahead of me and a snake slithers out of the leaves at his feet... a man can get trampled.  :roflmao:   
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: centerfire_223 on August 30, 2008, 02:45:10 PM
Chet who is going to get close enough to check his eyes out?  :roflmao: Definately not ME!!!!!!   :biggrin:
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: KySongDog on August 30, 2008, 03:21:18 PM
Looks like a corn snake to me.   Some people keep them as pets.  Nonpoisonous.
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: Silencer on August 30, 2008, 05:30:07 PM
I'm with WW and Semp, either a corn or milk.  Milk snakes are very aggressive and put on a big show but arent poisonous.
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: pitw on August 30, 2008, 06:47:26 PM
Looks like a "good" snake to me.
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: alscalls on August 30, 2008, 09:12:27 PM
 :nofgr:.. :holdon:..........We do not commonly have the snakes named above!
What you very likely have there is a copperhead!............A baby one has that coloration until it sheds a couple of times
Then they look like this.........
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh123/alscalls/SNAKE0008.jpg)
I have a lot of chances to see the babies come right from the mother........When they are hit with a weedeater and I tell ya that is a dangerous little fella.........You can pry open his mouth and find its fangs with a stick to be sure but a young one like that has not matured enough to know how much venom to give so they give it all at once.......CAREFULL.
The color varies but the young are born alive and are very different in color until they shed a few times mind the eyes and the pattern and for God sakes do not get bit.LOL
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: alscalls on August 30, 2008, 09:24:33 PM
Oh and do not believe all that crap about them having a yellow tipped tail and the patterns being different......
They look different in different parts of the world.
I used to catch them for biology teachers and I am telling ya that could be one.
FYI:
I asked my wife what kind it was and she said without hessitation "looks like a baby copperhead".
She knows all to well :wink:
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: weedwalker on August 30, 2008, 09:53:54 PM
The belly scales don't look like a copperhead. They have a single row of scales past the anal vent, as do all pit vipers. This snake appears to have multiple scales. I tried to blow it up a little to check.
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: alscalls on August 30, 2008, 10:07:01 PM
It is hard to say from a photo and the pattern on the scales can throw ya off.
I have some old pics somewhere of baby ones I just cant seem to find them.......I will look again
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: weedwalker on August 30, 2008, 10:11:32 PM
It's kinda hard to tell from the pic. It won't blow up enough to be sure. Pit vipers have the single row of belly scales towards the tail and non-poisonous snakes have a split row of belly scales after the vent. :shrug: They come in so many different colors that you can't judge them by that.
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: ErictheRed on August 30, 2008, 10:14:48 PM
rat snake.
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: coyotehunter_1 on August 30, 2008, 10:26:53 PM
QuoteThey look different in different parts of the world.


Southern copperheads
(http://www.jdmpics.com/animals/copperhead-6.jpg)
(http://www.jdmpics.com/animals/copperhead-4.jpg)
(http://www.jdmpics.com/animals/copperhead-1.jpg)


Northern copperheads
(http://www.jdmpics.com/animals/northern-copperhead-2.jpg)
(http://www.jdmpics.com/animals/northern-copperhead-1.jpg)



source:
http://www.jdmpics.com/snake-pictures.htm
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: alscalls on August 30, 2008, 10:33:29 PM
This is a baby still inside the sac.........same color as Cathryn's snake and clearly from a copperhead.
I see a lot of them and as I said I could be wrong but dang sure looks like it could be one.
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh123/alscalls/copperheadbby.jpg)
This is not just some random Photo either,.........I killed this snake when it tried to bite my wife. (West Virginia)
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: KySongDog on August 30, 2008, 11:30:08 PM
Hey Cathryn

Did the snake have fangs?   
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: wv_yoter on August 30, 2008, 11:40:51 PM
That's not a copperhead. It could be a milk snake but it's not poisonous.
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: coyotehunter_1 on August 31, 2008, 12:00:24 AM
After many hours of in depth research I found the answer....  :wo:



It's a king sized corn eating milk drinking smashed headed very much dead snake.  :whew: 




Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: HaMeR on August 31, 2008, 12:07:36 AM
QuoteIt's a king sized corn eating milk drinking smashed headed very much dead snake.     :whew:

And here all this time I thought it was one of your every day average run of the mill nuttin special bout it "GOOD" snakes. Guess I was plum wrong tho!!  :rolleye:

:laf: :laf:
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: Jimmie in Ky on August 31, 2008, 12:50:09 PM
Definately not a copperhead. Scales and tail do not match. And I have killed more than my fair share of 'em. I see the same thing done with the highland water snake and th cottonmouth. Folks see the water snake and holler cottonmouth just because of similar markings in th young and it's found around water. Thin head like your thumbnail leave it alone is a general rule for non poisonous snakes. Heads shaped like an arrowhead , kill the sucker quick  :eyebrownod: Jimmie
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: ErictheRed on August 31, 2008, 08:38:31 PM
I still think it is a rat snake.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8c/Pantherophis_guttatus_emoryi2.jpg)
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: alscalls on August 31, 2008, 08:57:15 PM
The pic I posted.......I milked the venom right from its fangs.....The babies looked a lot like cathryns snake I would need to see it up close to be sure but nothing wrong with caution.
From the size of it I would say there are many more nearby.LOL :wink:
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: nastygunz on August 31, 2008, 09:04:45 PM
is the pic from a snake in WV ?
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: nastygunz on August 31, 2008, 09:32:46 PM
Northern Pine Snake.
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: wv_yoter on August 31, 2008, 09:33:05 PM
 I think Eric may be right. Look at the markings on Cathryn's and these two. They look the same to me.
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc82/axley07/snakes/ratsnake-1.jpg)
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc82/axley07/snakes/baby_black_rat_2.jpg)
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: cb223 on August 31, 2008, 09:58:33 PM
Well regardless of what kind it is or should I say was! It is a good one, DEAD!

I'm not a big fan of snakes. I won't go out of my way to kill them but if they are near my home turf well, they probably won't see another day.
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: Bopeye on August 31, 2008, 10:41:55 PM
That is a discombobulated snake.......... :eyebrownod:
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: alscalls on August 31, 2008, 10:50:55 PM
Quote from: nastygunz on August 31, 2008, 09:04:45 PM
is the pic from a snake in WV ?
Cathryn, Jason(WV Yoter) and myself are from WV
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: northern coyote on September 08, 2008, 03:54:29 PM
milk snake
Title: Re: what kind of snakle is this?
Post by: Kuipdog on September 09, 2008, 12:57:29 AM
I would agree with Eric, Rat Snake. At least thats what we call them.
Kuipdog