Besides the wind direction, do you find when setting up for coyote, do they come in better if you're level with them, down hill, up hill etc etc etc.... ?
Like turkey hunting............hunt high.....call em up hill.M2C
thats exactly what I was wondering, if they tend to come in better like turkey do.
:eyebrownod: accept I kill a lot of turkeys :roflmao: :roflmao:
I dont think "come in better" is the right choice of words. :wink:
For conversation sake, because I'm no world champion or anything, but setting yourself up from where you expect the coyotes to come in gives you a visual advantage. You can see them coming sooner.
I doubt a coyote is more comfortable running up the side of a hill to get to the distress sound.
They will generally take the path of least resistance. So putting wind and all other factors aside, if your looking down, looking up, looking sideways, or even looking up side down, it's not going to make them "come in better".
If your at the base of a hill looking upward, your visual parameters are pretty limited. Especially if your close to this hill. So yeah being up higher looking out over where they may come from gives you a great advantage.
Around here the hills are so steep Hunting high for anything will give you some advantage ........But that dose not mean you will see better :nono: Not every time.....It can give you a dis advantage in some areas as far as sight.
Look for the head of a hollow where several heads of hollows come together.....check your wind..... sneak in early evening.....and most important......give it a shot.......I do not kill piles of yotes but I have had em come in on me in places like this more often than not. Getting out there when you can is what it is all about. :wink:
The reason I'm asking is the dogs I've been after come down off a steep ridge to feed in the thickets/creek bed.
I pretty much know where they're cutting down the ridge and can get above and to the right of them if the wind is right.
So far calling below that spot in the creek bottom and/or across from it hasnt panned out. My best stand was the one across the thicket where they came into the thicket and I could hear but not see em. ( close enough for the challange howl to bring the hair up on the back of your neck lol )
These guys have been hunted many times before by a few differnt guys. One guy says I'll never get them, the dogs on the hill are too smart. I say BS, I'm gonna score me one of em and any help from yall is appreciated, thanks :yoyo:
Now with some more specifics I can give you a fair idea of what is happening. There is a reason they use that particular area. And I would bet it has to do with the winds in that bottom. Evrybody wants to hunt the open fields and that is what they have been doing. The coyotes have the hunters patterned.
Getting above them and downwind will be your best bet. I would recomand some type of canine sound for th calls. If you happen to know what others have tried, do not use those sounds. If they are using the ecallers then stick with mouth calls and vary the rythem of the calls, do not be repititous.
And BTW, You can call a coyote in any direction you want. Terrain and how the wind works in there are the biggest problem Jimmie
here's my best paint job....
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f112/RavLID/oakhill.jpg)
red X's are previous stands.
blue arrow is coyotes direction.
yellow dot is wanna be new stand with green dot being e-caller.
Here's the topo of the location as well.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f112/RavLID/topooakhill.jpg)
thanks all
If I can get out of pickin up the kids from basketball I'm goin to see if the wind is right tomorrow evening and give it a whirl.
Set that ecaller down hill cross wind below you. It will help hide you with theire ttention fixed on a lower point.Jimmie
Is that a right of way in the lower left of the photo?? Looks like it goes from the road up over the crest of the hill. If you can follow it up over the crest of the hill you might be able to call them into that right of way by setting the e-call on the right side of it so they have to cross it to get to the sound. The wind would have to be right???
Jim
thats a power line or right of way but I dont have permission up there. At one time I did but the property got sold. There's rock out-croppings with den locations/caves up that way. The local fire dept. has a hunting club on the other side of that where the lines come out, I have a few friends that are memebers I can ask and access it from there.
Gonna try what Jimmie suggested tonight, right before dark. Suppose to warm up just a little bit. I hope the winds are right :fingerx:
GOOD LUCK VIC! :yoyo:
1 red-tail hawk and seen a bunch of deer. :wo:
Did yall ever meet my babe in heat ???? :eyebrow:
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/TeamDuban/SANY1891.jpg)
she came along on the hunt with me only to come home solo again. Maybe I should tie a T-bone steak around her neck and then she'll bring home them alpha males... ??
Why is her tail up?
She's a pointin coyote.. :eyebrownod: I bent it up for the pic, I usually have it in the relaxed mode.
:wink:
Thats awesome!!!! Wish I had one of those.
:laf: What is that, a mount? I hope ya didnt spend much money on it, taking it out in the field with ya. :wink:
It is a full mount, 10 dollar yardsale special I picked up a couple years ago :eyebrow:
:roflmao: That'll work
Like Jimmie said, those coyotes are there for a reason... Are you keeping in mind the "Thermals"? Once the sun comes up and those hillsides start warming up, the thermals start rising from the valley. Southern exposures first. But eventually all. This is in addition to the prevailing winds. A coyote on the ridge top is having scent rolling up to him from all sides, then having it blown and swirled cross ways right into his face. Tough not to get busted. Regardless, I would most definitely try using a climbing tree stand, and getting up off the ground. It might just get you the time you need to see them, and get off a shot.
Thats what my next question was going to be... "THERMALS" and how they work. I did notice the last time I tried setting up the wind was perfect until I got settled in and it changed and started rising right up the ridge.
Thanks, that cleared it up a bit.