in my mossberg 835.........when I first got it I never saw the microscopic lettering on the factory choke so I shot steel through it and when I was cleaning it one night found this:
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And now I wont shoot steel through it no mo :nono:
I use it for a pencil holder on my desk now :wink:
Interesting, was that extra full ?
ttp for gunz, well ? lol
Its the stock ultra full turkey choke that comes with the mossberg 835.
Yeah the lettering is sometimes hard to read especially with that choke grease all over it.
I raised hell with mossberg about the lettering on the choke being so small n they sent me a replacement :yoyo:
I don't ever shoot steel through mine anyway, but just for giggles I checked out my choke. It says "Lead Only" on mine, but then again I can read more than just Playboy Mr. Nastygunz. :roflmao:
I shoot tons of steel but only a few extra full chokes are actually made for it. I had a gut feeling that was an extra/ultra full stock choke.
QuoteI raised hell with mossberg about the lettering on the choke being so small n they sent me a replacement
Thats pretty good customer service, they could have recomended bi-focals :laf:
That crack appears to be in the threaded area of the choke tube, and this would seem to mean that the choke tube failed before the shot even entered the consricted area of said tube. Seems mighty strange to me.
i BELIEVE THE 2009 CABELAS SPRING TURKEY CATALOGUE HAS A MOSSBERG 835 ON THE COVER :yoyo:
Quote from: Bopeye on February 03, 2009, 10:13:14 PM
I don't ever shoot steel through mine anyway, but just for giggles I checked out my choke. It says "Lead Only" on mine, but then again I can read more than just Playboy Mr. Nastygunz. :roflmao:
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+1
Im a Hustler man, I like the cartoons :yoyo:
Quote from: Bopeye on February 03, 2009, 10:13:14 PM
I don't ever shoot steel through mine anyway, but just for giggles I checked out my choke. It says "Lead Only" on mine, but then again I can read more than just Playboy Mr. Nastygunz. :roflmao:
Quote from: Rich on February 07, 2009, 07:49:21 AM
That crack appears to be in the threaded area of the choke tube, and this would seem to mean that the choke tube failed before the shot even entered the consricted area of said tube. Seems mighty strange to me.
I agree. Seems rather strange. :confused:
Wouldn't the gas pressure be behind the wad?
Quote from: alscalls on February 11, 2009, 09:32:16 PM
Wouldn't the gas pressure be behind the wad?
I guess I don't understand your point, Al. The steel shot is what causes the damage, not the gas pressure. Steel shot does not "give" or deform when it travels the length of the tube which causes stress on the constricted portion of the tube. I'm no expert on this stuff so that is just my theory about it. :shrug:
Quote from: alscalls on February 11, 2009, 09:32:16 PM
Wouldn't the gas pressure be behind the wad?
I would sure hope so! :doh2:
:laf:
Hey Nasty: is the shot buffered in the steel loads you shoot? :wo:
I would never have noticed the crack but being a muzzle loader hunter also I know it pays to lube your choke or breech plug threads...so learning from that experience I always check all my chokes now and then for any damage.
The threaded portion of the choke would be hit hardest by the steel shot......settling as it exits the end. The crack was formed in the area with the most stress.
That being said the gas pressure is constricted as is everything else, forcing the pressure to be at its greatest behind the shot and in the choke tube....(The threaded area).
The combination of being beaten with the steel pellets hitting the edge of the choke and extreme gas pressure causes the crack to form on the highest stress area....(the threaded area).
It is thinner here and has room to expand as well, so it adds up to be the most likely place for it to crack.
I hope I make sense for ya.....After all I have a degree on the subject. :wink:
Quote from: alscalls on February 12, 2009, 02:33:04 PM
The threaded portion of the choke would be hit hardest by the steel shot......settling as it exits the end.
If your theory is right, ALL chokes in an 835 should show cracks and damage when using steel shot. :shrug:
Yet the open chokes don't show the stress damage that the full choke shows with steel shot. The constriction is at the
end of the barrel, not where the choke threads in to the barrel on an 835.
A choke made for steel shot is designed not to crack with use of steel shot or lead...........a choke made for Lead Only is marked as such and no part of the design is made to crack.
The choke in question is thicker at the end and moves with the harmonics of the barrel, the threads move with the harmonics as well as swelling in the small gap in between the threads and is clearly the weakest point, when miss used.
OK. I wonder too if the gas pressure is higher than normal as the gun tries to shove the steel shot out of the small choke. :confused: I could see how that higher pressure might crack the threaded portion of the choke. :shrug:
Maybe you boys need to grab the narrow end of your tube and choke it. Did that sound right? :confused: :roflmao: :innocentwhistle:
roflmao !!! :bowingsmilie: :roflmao: :nono: :yoyo:
IM GETTIN A MIGRAINE....... :biggrin:..........now as I recall back.....I only have 2 chokes for my 835, the turkey choke that came with it and the polychoke2 I use for everything else........I know better then to shoot steel through a full choke especially an XXfull choke....I was in Vermont hunting Fall turkey season and spotted some birds coming up the side of a corn field so I grabbed a couple of shells and the shotgun and hit the woods and went to cut them off at the edge of the field...which I did and nailed a tom from an ambush position....but in my hurry I had grabbed some #4 steel duck loads...which I did not notice until after I shot and then shucked the shell out........so I am thinking thats what cracked the choke...whenever I use steel in it for waterfowl I always use the polychoke2 now and same for buckshot, never had a problem since.
Quote from: Bopeye on February 13, 2009, 06:39:27 AM
Maybe you boys need to grab the narrow end of your tube and choke it. Did that sound right? :confused: :roflmao: :innocentwhistle:
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The pressure is definitely getting higher now Semp............. :roflmao: :roflmao:@^^^