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#81
The Tailgate / Re: Mountain Men
Last post by FinsnFur - November 04, 2024, 06:46:30 PMI used to watch it religiously.
Tom, I agree is a different breed and envied by many.
I only get the reruns now. I got tired of the $200 Phone/internet bill and told em too keep the shit.
No more live TV
Tom, I agree is a different breed and envied by many.
I only get the reruns now. I got tired of the $200 Phone/internet bill and told em too keep the shit.
No more live TV
#82
Big Game / Re: Cougar chasing deer, track...
Last post by FinsnFur - November 04, 2024, 06:36:50 PMQuote from: Okanagan on November 02, 2024, 08:51:42 AMQuote from: FinsnFur on October 27, 2024, 08:15:46 AMI kept scrolling in anticipation of the bloody meal pictures
Jim, I could claim that I did it to keep you hanging on in suspense to find out if the lion caught the deer.But if you read the first sentence carefully it says that the cougar did not catch the deer!
You shoulda went with option #1
#83
The Tailgate / Re: Mountain Men
Last post by Hawks Feather - November 04, 2024, 03:31:18 PMYep. https://fwp.mt.gov/hunt/regulations/mountain-lion
2024 Season
Archery (without dogs): Sept. 3 – October 16
Fall (without dogs): October 26 – Dec. 1
Winter: Dec. 1 – April 14
2024 Season
Archery (without dogs): Sept. 3 – October 16
Fall (without dogs): October 26 – Dec. 1
Winter: Dec. 1 – April 14
#84
The Tailgate / Re: Mountain Men
Last post by bigben - November 04, 2024, 01:33:15 PMyou allowed to shoot em in montana?
#85
The Tailgate / Re: Mountain Men
Last post by Hawks Feather - November 04, 2024, 11:54:30 AMYea, I can see that, but if there is hunting, why not just shoot the cat? Then again they probably can't show a cat being killed, but it is O.K. for beavers and martins. 🙄
#86
Big Game / Deer behaviour, bucks announci...
Last post by Okanagan - November 04, 2024, 11:54:25 AMI think that blacktail bucks sometimes advertise their presence as they look for a doe to breed. They deliberately move upwind and let the doe smell them, or let her see them, or they make some buck noise. If you pretend to be a doe in heat, sometimes they will advertise themselves to you.
A buck did that to me last week (I think it was a buck, but never saw it). I set up to call a deer at the end of an old road, a slot through thick brush. Wind was left to right across the road.
I did a doe in heat call every few minutes. After 35 minutes I did another set of doe bleats and got an instant response. A big animal 25 yards to my left pushed through thick bushes. It was loud and I could hear his antlers bumping limbs. He walked for 6 or 8 steps through the brush, a big animal heading toward the road in front of me. Then no more sound.
I got ready to shoot him when he stepped into the road, but he never came out. I sat there in silence for another 15 minutes, then had to leave. Bummer! I think that the buck was still there, merely being still and listening.
My guess is that the buck deliberately crashed brush in response to my doe in heat bleats. I think that he was announcing his presence to what he assumed was a doe. He had sneaked close without a sound, so he did not need to make the racket. I think he wanted her to know he was a nearby willing buck, and that he wanted her to move down the road to where she could get his scent that was coming in from the left.
I wonder if I had stayed, if he would have eventually come into the road or crossed it in order to get downwind of the doe in heat sound. Will never know.
Am curious is anyone has a different interpretation of what this deer did. What am I missing? I learn to hunt better by analyzing what animals actually did in specific situations. Sometimes I get it wrong until someone explains it to me.
A buck did that to me last week (I think it was a buck, but never saw it). I set up to call a deer at the end of an old road, a slot through thick brush. Wind was left to right across the road.
I did a doe in heat call every few minutes. After 35 minutes I did another set of doe bleats and got an instant response. A big animal 25 yards to my left pushed through thick bushes. It was loud and I could hear his antlers bumping limbs. He walked for 6 or 8 steps through the brush, a big animal heading toward the road in front of me. Then no more sound.
I got ready to shoot him when he stepped into the road, but he never came out. I sat there in silence for another 15 minutes, then had to leave. Bummer! I think that the buck was still there, merely being still and listening.
My guess is that the buck deliberately crashed brush in response to my doe in heat bleats. I think that he was announcing his presence to what he assumed was a doe. He had sneaked close without a sound, so he did not need to make the racket. I think he wanted her to know he was a nearby willing buck, and that he wanted her to move down the road to where she could get his scent that was coming in from the left.
I wonder if I had stayed, if he would have eventually come into the road or crossed it in order to get downwind of the doe in heat sound. Will never know.
Am curious is anyone has a different interpretation of what this deer did. What am I missing? I learn to hunt better by analyzing what animals actually did in specific situations. Sometimes I get it wrong until someone explains it to me.
#87
The Tailgate / Re: Mountain Men
Last post by bigben - November 04, 2024, 11:49:00 AMI believe the idea is to harass them so they associate humans as bad. pretty sure thats what they do in states that have a ban on hunting now. T
#88
The Tailgate / Re: Mountain Men
Last post by Hawks Feather - November 04, 2024, 11:20:20 AMSo, I do have a question that maybe someone can answer. Several of the cats have been run and he has mentioned that cat season is open. Why doesn't he just shoot them? I am fairly sure that there would be a market for them.
And I agree that some of the characters are not worth watching and when they come on I hit the fast forward button.
And I agree that some of the characters are not worth watching and when they come on I hit the fast forward button.
#89
The Tailgate / Today in history 11-4
Last post by remrogers - November 04, 2024, 10:31:52 AM1791
Nov 4
Native Americans deliver crushing defeat at the Battle of the Wabash
On November 4, 1791, a multitribal confederation, formed to resist colonial expansion into their historical homelands, routs a large contingent of U.S. troops along the Wabash River in western Ohio.
This one-sided clash, known as the Battle of the Wabash or St. Clair's Defeat, would be the biggest victory ever won by Native Americans over the United States—with far more casualties inflicted than even the Battle of the Little Bighorn—and would prompt a major overhaul of the American military.
With the passage of the Northwest Ordinance in 1787, the newly independent United States opened an early phase of westward expansion into lands occupied by the Shawnee, Miami, Delaware, Wyandot and other Great Lakes tribes.
Banding together to fight the incursion, the tribes rebuffed an assault in 1790 near present-day Fort Wayne, Indiana, killing 183 U.S. soldiers in the campaign. This prompted the United States to muster an even larger force the following year.
Led by Major General Arthur St. Clair, governor of the Northwest Territory and a veteran of the Revolutionary War, U.S. troops marched north from present-day Cincinnati in September 1791, with instructions to establish a series of military posts and to strike their opponents "with great severity." Beset with problems from the outset, they advanced only a single mile on the first day. Inexperienced, lacking in supplies, and facing increasingly wet and icy weather, dozens of men deserted and others were discharged.
Even so, St. Clair remained confident, saying that "savages, if violently attacked, will always break and give way—and when once broke, for the want of discipline, will never rally." Suffering from debilitating gout, St. Clair had purportedly been warned by President George Washington to "beware of surprise." Yet on November 3, as his force camped along the Wabash River, he posted few watchmen and constructed no field fortifications.
The following morning, he and his 1,400 men were attacked by a roughly equal number of Native Americans led by Miami Chief Little Turtle and Shawnee Chief Blue Jacket. (A young Tecumseh also played a small role in the battle, serving as a scout.) Deployed in a well-organized crescent formation, the Native Americans fired away while, in the words of one observer, moving virtually unseen from tree to tree.
State militiamen fled in panic, throwing the whole U.S. force into disarray, whereas the Army regulars who stood their ground were encircled and mowed down in droves. In just three hours of fighting, at least 600 U.S. soldiers were killed, along with dozens of camp followers. Estimates of Native American deaths range as low as a couple dozen.
However, the Native American victory was short-lived. In 1794, a better-trained, more professional army under the command of General "Mad" Anthony Wayne returned and defeated the multi-tribal confederation at the Battle of Fallen Timbers. By the terms of a subsequent treaty, the tribes were forced to cede most of present-day Ohio, along with portions of neighboring states.
Nov 4
Native Americans deliver crushing defeat at the Battle of the Wabash
On November 4, 1791, a multitribal confederation, formed to resist colonial expansion into their historical homelands, routs a large contingent of U.S. troops along the Wabash River in western Ohio.
This one-sided clash, known as the Battle of the Wabash or St. Clair's Defeat, would be the biggest victory ever won by Native Americans over the United States—with far more casualties inflicted than even the Battle of the Little Bighorn—and would prompt a major overhaul of the American military.
With the passage of the Northwest Ordinance in 1787, the newly independent United States opened an early phase of westward expansion into lands occupied by the Shawnee, Miami, Delaware, Wyandot and other Great Lakes tribes.
Banding together to fight the incursion, the tribes rebuffed an assault in 1790 near present-day Fort Wayne, Indiana, killing 183 U.S. soldiers in the campaign. This prompted the United States to muster an even larger force the following year.
Led by Major General Arthur St. Clair, governor of the Northwest Territory and a veteran of the Revolutionary War, U.S. troops marched north from present-day Cincinnati in September 1791, with instructions to establish a series of military posts and to strike their opponents "with great severity." Beset with problems from the outset, they advanced only a single mile on the first day. Inexperienced, lacking in supplies, and facing increasingly wet and icy weather, dozens of men deserted and others were discharged.
Even so, St. Clair remained confident, saying that "savages, if violently attacked, will always break and give way—and when once broke, for the want of discipline, will never rally." Suffering from debilitating gout, St. Clair had purportedly been warned by President George Washington to "beware of surprise." Yet on November 3, as his force camped along the Wabash River, he posted few watchmen and constructed no field fortifications.
The following morning, he and his 1,400 men were attacked by a roughly equal number of Native Americans led by Miami Chief Little Turtle and Shawnee Chief Blue Jacket. (A young Tecumseh also played a small role in the battle, serving as a scout.) Deployed in a well-organized crescent formation, the Native Americans fired away while, in the words of one observer, moving virtually unseen from tree to tree.
State militiamen fled in panic, throwing the whole U.S. force into disarray, whereas the Army regulars who stood their ground were encircled and mowed down in droves. In just three hours of fighting, at least 600 U.S. soldiers were killed, along with dozens of camp followers. Estimates of Native American deaths range as low as a couple dozen.
However, the Native American victory was short-lived. In 1794, a better-trained, more professional army under the command of General "Mad" Anthony Wayne returned and defeated the multi-tribal confederation at the Battle of Fallen Timbers. By the terms of a subsequent treaty, the tribes were forced to cede most of present-day Ohio, along with portions of neighboring states.
#90
The Tailgate / Re: Mountain Men
Last post by 1snafu - November 04, 2024, 08:50:20 AMI've watched it for a few years. An entertaining program at times. The lion houndsman's belief. He can runs a lion out of it's territory. Is fool hardy when it comes to a territorial lion. Sure he run that lion back into the mountains. But it isn't leaving because of that. Any territorial predator imo. Will not leave it's territory. Unless killed or ran of by a more determined alpha male. Some people amuse me, by their own beliefs as if it is fact in all cases.