Hunting coyotes with pups?

[ohiobob]

ALL HAIL THE AMBER AMPHIBIAN!!!   :roflmao: :roflmao: 

The only thing I got against PM is their gestapo tactics to suppress free speech ie: deleting or editing posts, their holier than thou attitude towards many, the way the dudes in charge actually became in charge, how some of the mods actually begged their butts off to become mods, they've bastardized a sport I love for damn money.........outside of that. I LOVE 'EM.

I've been on that board longer than most the mods, so yes, I have seen the changes and they all suck. I wish Will Craig could return from the dead, he'd fire most those limp noodles.

Bopeye
You must have read my mind ,,,edit,delete,,edit,delete SSDD
Bob

[Bopeye]

  Yep , even ol' Bop has a few endearing qualities! :roflmao:

Not many...........I have friends on PM, it's just the way the dang board has changed.  

Guess I'll just stay here most of the time.  

[possumal]

I don't hunt them much in hot weather just because it is not enjoyable to me. If I do go, I keep in mind that the main reason I am allowed to hunt on so many farms is that those farmers are having trouble with calf depredation. If they found out I was protecting coyotes, I wouldn't be allowed to hunt there anymore. Being humane to an animal that is not humane in his approach to hunting is a wasted emotion as far as I am concerned. You can't kill them out anyway by hunting. I do hunt a good deal on deer hunting lease properties at the request of the lease holders.  If you call them in using fawn distress calls, it is a win-win situation. If you kill him, he won't bother any more fawns. If you shoot and miss or just crease him, he may think twice about hunting fawns again.

[MI VHNTR]

IMHO, as long as a person is complying with their own respective states hunting laws concerning coyote hunting, what gives anyone the right to condemn or belittle them? Every law abiding hunter has their own equipment, techniques and ethics and hunts according to what they feel is correct for them. They do not have to answer to anyone but themselves.

Expressing a view on a subject is one thing, trying to force their views on someone else is just plain wrong. MI VHNTR

[NASA]

Well, here's a thread that sounds familiar.     No need for me to post my opinion, most of you already know what it is.  Just as most of you already know the reasons for that opinion.   But just in case 1 or 2 of you may have misinterpreted my opinion, I'll stick around to help you with any clarification issues, if needed.   

[Mallardsr]

Well ? Lets have it! After all its just your opinion! 

[CCP]

I got to go to work will be on the road the next 5 hours. When I get to the motel I bet I check this thread first thing.

[NASA]

Well ? Lets have it!

Was there a "particular" point you had in mind    or are you just chummin'?   

[Mallardsr]

I found your position presumptuous on the inflated popularity of your opinion. Just encouraging the fulfillment of your position. 

[NASA]

Mallard, I like you already!     You're right, though.  I was assuming most everyone here had followed the thread of similar content over at PM.  So I will again assume that you are not a regular visitor to the realm of the grenouille rouge?

[Mallardsr]

So sorry to have misled you. I often visit Red Frogs domain and have done so since 2002. I was responding on the behalf of the many new members we have here at FNF that were not able to do so for various reasons. Once again just encouraging your participation here at FNF.

[NASA]

Although I live in a state that has no closed season on coyotes, I don't hunt them during their denning season.  I believe that springtime hunting should be reserved for dealing with problem coyotes only.
I do not agree that every coyote is a "problem".   People that do usually have very little understanding  of coyote biology.  I do not hate coyotes, nor do I champion their extermination from the planet.

I do believe that just because it's "legal" does not mean it's "right" or even "necessary" to do something.  Take flag burning, for example.  You have a "legal" right to do it.  Does that mean you have to do it?  Does it mean it's even the right thing to do?  Is it even something to take pride in?  In my eyes, "legal" is not the only justification to take into consideration for one's actions.


Now, there is an opinion.  Does anyone feel "threatened" or "intimidated"?  Does anyone feel anything "being shoved down their throats"?  Does anyone feel they are "being told what to do"?   I sure hope not because then this is all a dream and I'm still at PM.   

[slagmaker]

I personally dont feel right hunting animals during the denning seasons. I do belive in the conservation of our wildlife no matter what that wildlife may be. If ya go out and shoot a yote that has pups then those pups will most likely not make it. Thus you have in effect killed not one but several yotes. I like hunting and the outdoors and fell that if ya harvest too many you take away from future enjoyment.

Look at the passenger pigion the common thought was that there are so many of them that you could not possibaly hurt the population. Now the passenger pigeon is a thing of the past.

[NASA]

And just look out on our plains and you'll find the next passenger pigeon ......... the prairie dog.  I really would hate to see them disappear too.  They are just too much fun to shoot to have them  just vanish.  Nationwide, coyotes are nowhere in that level of decline.  But I know of areas where the combination of mange, parvo, ADC A/C, and recreational shooting have driven the numbers of coyotes so low that it isn't even worth the cost of gas to drive there and try to call anymore.  This is on public land, too.   I'd like some of those Texans to send us a few hundred head of their surplus coyotes so's we can re-stock those barren hills.   

[slagmaker]

I totally agree with you on the prarie dog issue. I would love to try my hand at a prarie dog shoot but with the number of people that are shooting prarie dogs I just cant bring my self to sit out and see how many I can shoot in a day. That kind of thinking can and will push the PD to extention.

Coyotes arnt on the decline by any means in the grand scheme of things but part of being a hunter is CONSERVATION. Shooting somthing just to be killing something is in my opinion immoral and wrong. Shooting something to help control population or damage from there burrowing or orther forms of there normal day to day actaivity is another matter all together.

[FinsnFur]

I think there's a plenty of members here NASA that all in all dont know you from Adam. I'm not saying all of them, I just mean there are plenty that dont.

I think you could benefit greatly in making your point by exposing some of your passion. Tell the boys about your years actually raising coyotes and studying them.

[Bopeye]

Thanks a lot Jimbo...........been listening to Nasa on this subject for years. Okay, I'll listen again.............just give me a minute to get ready..........................hold on...........okay............go...........



:roflmao: :roflmao:
Just razzing ya Nasa. Although I can see your side of it and do agree with your point that I don't want coyotes exterminated........I love to hunt 'em too much for that. I'll still hunt whenever it's legal, if I choose too.
For what it's worth though, I don't hunt coyotes too much in the summer.........I guess "seldom" would be the word I'm looking for, but it's not for the reasons you gave.
I simply don't like setting in the heat, sweating my fat butt off, getting covered in skeeters, dog pecker gnats and ticks, just to shoot a coyote. I'd rather hunt when it's cooler. Having said that, it also means that I'm not hunting the little dumb, young coyotes that some are hunting in September either. The dumb ones are usually dead as a hammer by the time my fat butt get's out. Two sides to every coin. 

[Jrbhunter]

That is one giant leap you took there NASA.  It'd take an awful lot of VERY succesful predator hunters hitting one VERY unique area to knock numbers down in that manor.  Just because an area isn't suitable for calling doesn't mean it's remotely close to barren of all coyotes.

It's okay to feel sorry for the cute puppies- but population eradication is one giant leap.

[slagmaker]

I simply don't like setting in the heat, sweating my fat butt off, getting covered in skeeters, dog pecker gnats and ticks, just to shoot a coyote.


well there is that to Bopeye

[Dogwood Creek]

Skeeters, dogpecker gnats & ticks. If that don't take the urge out of ya, nothin will. You make it sound so enjoyable.