The kids first centerfire

FOsteology · October 18, 2007, 05:44:31 PM

He's afraid to shoot your 22-250? Is it the muzzle blast that intimidates him? Does he wear ear protection when shooting?

How much practice has he had with shooting? Has he spent much time behind a .22LR?

Asking a lot of questions as I've got a fair amount of exposure with introducing kids to shooting and hunting.

FinsnFur · October 18, 2007, 07:06:17 PM

He has spent a ton of time behind a 22lr, and still does. But I have to wonder if that's why he's so afraid of the 22-250, because there's so much recoil when compared to his 22lr

I don't think the Timney helps the situation. It's at it's lightest setting which pretty much makes the rifle, "thought triggered". All though he has never prematurely discharged it.

studabaka · October 18, 2007, 07:19:30 PM

:roflmao: never as far as you know :roflmao:

sorry...back on topic.

Take him skeet shooting..... your stainless a heavy barrel? I get almost no kick out of my mossberg and really not much out of my rem 700. Shooting a light barrel at Randy's seemed different, though I was also shooting his reloads and I can only imagine how those compare to factory loads

I'll have my 10 guage at LBL. He can shoot that a bit and after the bruises heal up he won't think nothing of a 22-250.

frshwtr · October 18, 2007, 07:22:33 PM

could be the light trigger because it goes when he isnt quite ready; also some calibers have a sharp crack others have a boom. i'll let you decide what it sounds like. booms arent as hard on my ears then cracks. then again its louder when someone is shooting, maybe he doesnt like the crack rembering how it sounds when you shoot.

FOsteology · October 18, 2007, 08:23:13 PM

Could very well be a combination of the muzzle blast and trigger pull. Even with a stock that doesn't fit well, the felt recoil from a 22-250 isn't intimidating.

Do you have a .223 he can shoot?

FinsnFur · October 18, 2007, 09:02:35 PM

It's not a heavy barreled 22-250... and as far as the load, it's a hand load made up of 55gr Nozler Spitzers with 39.5 gr of H-380. The gun loves em. Holes inside of holes from a bench.

I never thought of the stock bothering him or being uncomfortable to him. And now that i think about it, the trigger was put in two seasons before the stock. So he's shot it both ways.

223?

Not in my house. Not to start a caliber war..but I despise that round. I've watched more coyotes get shot AT, then shot with a 223.
Granted it may all be the round, the gun or the shooter, or any combination. But first impressions are hard to replace.

FOsteology · October 18, 2007, 09:27:48 PM

I feel the same way about the .204

The suggestion on the .223 wasn't specifically for what caliber rifle to get him.... but rather to experiment and see what is bothering your son. Recoil.... muzzle blast.... stock fit..... trigger pull....

If he's been shooting your rifle from the bench,.... have him shoot in field positions instead, or off of shooting sticks. And also have him wear hearing protection while shooting (not hunting).

FinsnFur · October 18, 2007, 09:38:19 PM

Actually I dont think he's ever shot mine from the bench. When were at the bench something needs to be done or checked and I do the shooting. We both always wear hearing protection at the bench.

His experience behind that rifle has all been afield. ..and with sticks. But I follow what your sayin...experiment with another caliber to diagnose his fears.
That could get expensive

Keep buying rifles, he might like this game

FOsteology · October 18, 2007, 09:56:06 PM

One can never have enough rifles!

I would actually look into borrowing a couple different calibers from friends to experiment with.

I've found with most kids, it's not the felt recoil that bothers them..... but the muzzle blast.

iahntr · October 19, 2007, 09:53:59 AM

Jim, I still think the NEF .204 would be a good choice. If my weekends weren't so full, I'd run over there and he could do some shootin with it. With such little recoil, when he saw that he could watch the impact through the scope, I think he'd feel more comfortable. Plus if he'd like to go deer huntin down the road, the barrels for them are perty inexpensive. If he ended up not liking it, your not out as much money, or you'd have a nice little backup gun.

Scott

FinsnFur · October 19, 2007, 03:53:51 PM

Yeah...I seen some ballistic pics over yonder last year on the 204 and I was pretty impressed.
It's going to come down to expense, more then likely, but I've always wanted a 204 too, if he dont like it ...

HaMeR · October 31, 2007, 05:49:18 AM

Whatcha come up with Jim?? Inquiring minds want to know.

FinsnFur · October 31, 2007, 07:27:16 PM

Haven't settled on anything yet.
It'll be a christmas present, but I'm really leaning towards the 204

HaMeR · October 31, 2007, 07:50:25 PM

I like my 204!!

~~You'll~~ He'll like ~~yours~~ his too I'm sure.

Less recoil,noise, & powder if you're gonna reload for it. It's a winner all around. It'll never replace the ol 22-250 but then again it wasn't brought out to. I wish you the best of luck with it & hope Kyle gets to enjoy it for a long long time.

finhunter · December 08, 2007, 04:48:46 PM

We, as I refer to my sweetheart and I, both have NEF Handy Rifles in .223 and they shoot great. I think it would be a great first rifle for a youngster. If you can afford a bolt action repeater that would be an awesome thing to get for a young one. I remember when I got a Remington 788 in .308 Winchester from my dad when I was 14 and I thought I died and went to heaven.