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Lilminnesotangl · December 04, 2007, 09:23:12 AM

I am 4' 11" and my arms are pretty short, I would like to get a gun for hunting. Any recommendations would be great!

FOsteology · December 04, 2007, 09:47:41 AM

My recommendation would be a Youth size rifle. Personally, I'd opt for a Remington Model 700 or Model Seven.

For a good all around cartridge the 7mm-08 is hard to beat. If you hand load, the .260 Remington is another excellent choice.

I have a Remington Model Seven SS with a 22" barrel and a youth walnut stock I was going to sell within the next couple weeks. If it's something you would be interested in, let me know and I'll post up some pictures.

Lilminnesotangl · December 04, 2007, 09:49:48 AM

Quote from: FOsteology on December 04, 2007, 09:47:41 AM
My recommendation would be a Youth size rifle. Personally, I'd opt for a Remington Model 700 or Model Seven.

For a good all around cartridge the 7mm-08 is hard to beat. If you hand load, the .260 Remington is another excellent choice.

I have a Remington Model Seven SS with a 22" barrel and a youth walnut stock I was going to sell within the next couple weeks. If it's something you would be interested in, let me know and I'll post up some pictures.

yes please post some pictures, i'm interested.

HaMeR · December 04, 2007, 10:03:01 AM

Savage also makes a youth model. Altho I don't know about wood stocks on them. Which is just what I prefer.

FOsteology · December 04, 2007, 11:25:08 AM

No one nowadays seems to make a decent youth stock. It's either a crappy tupper ware stock or cheap wood.

Another option if you prefer a wood stock is find a nice looking stock to fit whatever rifle you end up purchasing, and have it cut down to size with a 1" Decelerator pad.

Personally, I prefer a good synthetic stock as I do a lot of hunting in nasty weather, and in thick heavy thorn infested brush. Wood stock if not cared for properly on a regular basis will swell, crack, and throw off your POI. A good synthetic like a McMillan can handle the abuse without the concerns that wood has.

Here's a few quick pictures of the Model 7 SS with Youth stock:

Sans the rings (as not included) it weighs in at 6 lbs 2 oz

Fully loaded (depending on scope and rings used) it'll go between 7 to 7 1/2 pounds all up.

This one has a 22" barrel, and with the youth stock the balance is just a tad nose heavy. A 20" barrel would probably balance it much better. As luck would have it, I traded a guy for another Rem Seven 7mm-08 SS which has a 20" barrel. Should arrive at my FFL holders place tomorrow or Thursday.

FOsteology · December 04, 2007, 11:26:14 AM

Forgot to mention, the LOP is 12 3/8

Hawks Feather · December 04, 2007, 12:20:08 PM

I think Fos' recommendations are pretty good. I read a little more about the 7mm-08 and it sounds like a pretty solid round. The write ups of the 7mm-08 and .260 are pretty close - the reloading manual writers like both of them. The 7mm-08 has been used in Silhouette shooting, which if I had to pick between the two would make me lean that way. Bullets (if you are reloading): For the .260 - - - 85, 100, 107, 120, 140, 160, For the 7mm-08 - - - 100, 120, 130, 140, 150, 160, 168, & 175. Look like either would be a good choice.

The youth stock should be about right for you. I am 5'8" and like shorter lengths of pull, especially if I have a thick coat on. I have shot a few rifles with youth stocks on them and if I had a thick coat, I would consider it. I have a couple of MacMillan stocks and they are excellent, but I also would not rule out some of the better synthetic stocks like came on some of the older Remington 700s. Personally, I do not care for the Tupperware stock that was used on the 700 ADL. There was too much flex and I felt that accuracy was lost with it. (I had a .243 with the Tupperware stock and it left within 3 months. I had bought it for possible "wet" hunts. I did try the barreled action in another stock and the accuracy improved, so my thoughts are that the accuracy was stock related.)

Fos,

Maybe it is there and I missed it, but what caliber is the Model 7?

Jerry

FOsteology · December 04, 2007, 12:23:34 PM

Quote from: Hawks Feather on December 04, 2007, 12:20:08 PM

Fos,

Maybe it is there and I missed it, but what caliber is the Model 7?

Jerry

7mm-08

cb223 · December 04, 2007, 07:29:23 PM

What Jerry and Fos said.

Lilminnesotangl · December 04, 2007, 08:26:26 PM

my fiance tells me I need a shotgun

Hawks Feather · December 04, 2007, 08:54:21 PM

Tell him to buy you the shotgun and you will buy the rifle. Sounds like a Win-Win to me.

Jerry

FOsteology · December 04, 2007, 08:59:43 PM

Lilminnesotangl,

What game animals are you going to hunt? What type of terrain/environment do you hunt in? Average shot distance? How do you hunt (spot and stalk, still, or stand)?

bowslinger · December 05, 2007, 06:55:19 AM

since we live in a shotgun only area i'm going to get her a 20 nef single shot with a slug and shot barrle to see how well she likes gun hunting

FOsteology · December 05, 2007, 09:41:58 AM

Wouldn't be my first choice for a shotgun unless $$ was extremely tight. If you do go that route, be sure to put on a good pad!
My son had one (NEF 20 gauge) a couple years ago..... didn't like the recoil. Ruined him on shooting for a couple months as he was scared (experience was that bad....) The stock shape and drop on the NEF seems to accentuate felt recoil.

I have a Remington 870 20 gauge slug gun (rifled barrel with cantilever mount) and he can shoot that with no distress.

Hawks Feather · December 05, 2007, 09:59:47 AM

I haven't shot the NEF, but I have an 870 in the Express model (with both barrels) and it is pretty nice to shoot. I like the non-Express model better, but I got this for the girls to shoot and knew that it was not going to spend much time in the field.

Jerry

bowslinger · December 05, 2007, 10:29:30 AM

i have a mossberg 12 trophy sluggster i'm also thinking a bout getting her that in 20

vvarmitr · December 05, 2007, 05:42:11 PM

In raising girls I learnt NOT to go w/ the single shot route.

I actually had them shooting an auto. One shell at a time. Have an 1100 LW which the action hangs open after the last shot so all they had to do was take another shell from their pocket, drop it in the action, push the button on the underside & they were ready to go again. Doesn't get much simpler than that.

Doesn't take much muscle & takes some of the recoil out.

Never felt under gunned w/ a 20ga. Most of my hunting life I never owned a 12ga & all the deer I've shotgunned has been w/ the 20ga. Actually prefer it over the 12ga.

Unless I skimmed over it you still didn't say what your hunting.

HaMeR · December 05, 2007, 06:29:01 PM

I was at the gun shop this afternoon & Mossberg has a shotgun with interchangeable recoil pads for length of pull as the youngster grows taller/bigger. Might be something to look into.

Lilminnesotangl · December 05, 2007, 08:01:43 PM

Quote from: vvarmitr on December 05, 2007, 05:42:11 PM
In raising girls I learnt NOT to go w/ the single shot route.
I actually had them shooting an auto. One shell at a time. Have an 1100 LW which the action hangs open after the last shot so all they had to do was take another shell from their pocket, drop it in the action, push the button on the underside & they were ready to go again. Doesn't get much simpler than that. Doesn't take much muscle & takes some of the recoil out.

Never felt under gunned w/ a 20ga. Most of my hunting life I never owned a 12ga & all the deer I've shotgunned has been w/ the 20ga. Actually prefer it over the 12ga.

Unless I skimmed over it you still didn't say what your hunting.

I am brand spanking new to hunting

and I want to hunt deer along with the stupid raccoons that hang around our house.

Lilminnesotangl · December 05, 2007, 08:06:12 PM

Quote from: HaMeR on December 05, 2007, 06:29:01 PM
I was at the gun shop this afternoon & Mossberg has a shotgun with interchangeable recoil pads for length of pull as the youngster grows taller/bigger. Might be something to look into.

my fiance would like to know what gauge it is? lol, this youngster isn't going to be growing taller or bigger