OH-OH !

snowcamoman · November 26, 2008, 09:47:12 AM

Mike (browning),
Trust me, I've been watching how things go down on many forums and I've seen your comments and jabs at me. Again, I'm not paid by any of the e-call manufacturers nor do I advertise for any of them in any way, other than by answering questions for people relating to my experiences with them. For your information, I collect photos of WT's so when people send them to me, I can fix them and refer to photos for certain things. WT has had a knack for multiple and multiple versions of a single caller. I need to know sometimes what jumper wires were used and where they go or if another component was used, so I can install the right items. Trust, me Mike, you've stabbed Martz in a way that drives him crazier than almost anything. I won't drag it out onto a forum and post it for all to see, but just trust me. You'd be black listed in a heartbeat if he knew. I'll drop it a that unless you want to continue down this path. All I can say is you really need to start getting some good posts with backed up information, rather than running off about why FoxPro and PM are so horrible.
I wonder where Skoal38 has been on this post as well, we haven't heard much from the omnipotent one lately? He's probably around lurking, waiting for some gun and run type post that he likes so much. He never did respond to some other post where he wanted to call me out on killing things....very strange...

Again, this all comes down to one company and everybody being mad about something that hasn't even hit the market yet. Maybe JoshT or whoever that guy was will come on this site and answer my questions concerning callers. I'm finally glad that I'll have a caller that I can put 200 WT sounds, the entire JS library and almost every other sound on.

browning204 · November 26, 2008, 10:06:31 AM

Peter, trust me when i say this, I have no idea who skoal38 or JoshT are, honestly I will put my kids on that!

Secondly, I am not the only one who thinks that you are in bed with foxpro. You have asked more than one person for pics of the Wt's brains and you have asked people to set you up with a 2030. Gotta admit it all looks weird.

Funny how you obtained pics of the WT's circuits and memory card, then soon after on PM you wrote on how the WT can not do what it claims to do, due to the fact that the memory card isn't whatever you thought it should be.

Again, I don't recall making fun of your living set-up. And I thank you for wanting to keep the Martz thing off the board, I stand by what I said and do not recall ever stabbing or saying anything about Martz other than "once you get past the rough exterior, he is a nice smart guy" I have said it on the phone to Champion, CCP, Clevenger, Nastygunz and countless others. I have said it numerous times to THO in person. They can vouch for this. But now you have my interest peaked Peter, please E-mail me and tell me or show me what I have done to wrong Martz in any way. Do you still have my address? Or is this a way to make Martz THINK that I do wrong him so he black lists me?

If you need my addy again I will give it to you.

browning204 · November 26, 2008, 10:28:38 AM

Quote from: RShaw on November 26, 2008, 07:58:07 AM

For those who care...It seems that JoshT might not have been Bill Martz afterall.

Randy

Please enlighten us with your finding. I love when I am right (doesn't happen much) and if I am wrong, I will admit it.

Rich · November 26, 2008, 10:43:43 AM

I don't think that Josh T is Bill Martz. Too many posts without long speeches about clock building, and nothing about how small everyone's brain is except his own. I'm 90 percent certain that Josh T used Bill's computer to type his posts though.

browning204 · November 26, 2008, 10:55:44 AM

Quote from: Rich on November 26, 2008, 10:43:43 AM
I I'm 90 percent certain that Josh T used Bill's computer to type his posts though.

I still doubt that. You really think that Bill would let someone use his computer for that? Please since your so "in the know" tell us why and how you think you know that. Obviously you are being fed info from PM.

And if it turns out that it wasn't Martz or his computer, are you or Peter or anyone gonna man up and make a post on PM telling the fact that Martz was wrongly accused? I mean everyone got worked into a "Fury" (pun intended) about how JoshT post could possibly take business away from foxpro. Same applies to WT. The little witch hunt could possibly hurt WT if in fact it wasn't Martz or his computer. I don't really expect anyone to do that, But after all that shit slinging, it would be the right thing to due. Plus I guess my trophy would be on the line at that point, wouldn't it Rich?
So who is gonna be when this breaks? Who will be the MAN. 6 pages of dog pile, someone has to have some hair around his Nuts and make a post of how everyone was wrong (if they are) I think it should be a Mod or another "elite" person, since they let the bashing go on.

Rich · November 26, 2008, 11:59:41 AM

"I still doubt that. You really think that Bill would let someone use his computer for that? Please since your so "in the know" tell us why and how you think you know that. Obviously you are being fed info from PM."
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No Mr. WCSS, I am not being fed information from P.M. I read a post this morning from Mr. W.T. himself. He said he didn't post that Josh T stuff. Since P.M. tracks I.P. addresses, they more than likely know exactly where the posts came from. If it wasn't actually Mr. Bill, you can bet that it was someone using a Martz computer. Are you following me? Your title isn't on the line in this match sir, you are still the champ.

browning204 · November 26, 2008, 12:50:37 PM

and please tell me where did you read the post from mr. WT himself?

browning204 · November 26, 2008, 12:54:27 PM

scratch that, I found it on Hunt masters.

browning204 · November 26, 2008, 01:16:31 PM

Quote from: possumal on November 26, 2008, 07:45:35 AM
The Scorpion is a good example. There were no pending issues with the FCC when the field staffers received their prototypes to test. It is a different deal with the new Fury as the timing of production and getting the required FCC certification made it impossible to get them out to the field staff for prior testing.

AL, either you are a liar or just plain stupid. If you are so in tune with what Foxpro does, then why have there already been comments about the same speakers and same sounds used in the FX callers? Apparently some one has already used it and from what it sounds like, don't really care for it!! The person who used it told someone else and it is written in a thread on another site. SO I guess I was correct, there are some out there without the FCC stickers. THAT IS ILLEGAL!!!!! and if MARTZ was so wrong and bad to do it, then you might wanna add the Dillons to your list of people to talk badly about on the forums!

Do you think you can find the thread or do you need me to point you toward it? Your probably not gonna look because heaven forbid your precious friends are put under a bad light!

possumal · November 26, 2008, 01:40:07 PM

Browning204-The quote you presented was a direct explanation to RShaw about a question he posed about the field staff. Anybody that has followed your "Career" on the various forums is well aware of who the liar is and who is stupid. Rich Cronk put the right title on you. I hope you enjoy your trophy.

browning204 · November 26, 2008, 03:21:15 PM

you did not answer my question. How is it that there are already reports on the Fury if none have been released? How is it that people know it uses the same speaker as the FX series.

snowcamoman · November 26, 2008, 06:39:16 PM

Mike / Browning204,

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Secondly, I am not the only one who thinks that you are in bed with foxpro. You have asked more than one person for pics of the Wt's brains and you have asked people to set you up with a 2030. Gotta admit it all looks weird.

Funny how you obtained pics of the WT's circuits and memory card, then soon after on PM you wrote on how the WT can not do what it claims to do, due to the fact that the memory card isn't whatever you thought it should be.

First off, check your email that I sent you earlier today. If you changed addresses, let me know and I'll forward it to another one. Secondly, I'm not in bed with any of the caller companies...period. Now Martz and me have had our differences (Still do), but he makes a good caller. I have asked more than one person for pictures of callers as explained in my other post. I work on, customize, and fix people's WT's because they want something custom on their caller, or they just plain out don't want to deal with Martz. Seems kind of strange that people would send a caller 3000 miles to Alaska, when they could pay less and send it to New Hampshire. That just goes to show you how many of their own customers don't want to deal with them (nothing against Martz's wife, she's always been great to deal with). I was "shopping" around for a 2030 awhile back but have since checked it out and have everything I need from it. I'm sure glad I didn't plop down the money for that unprogrammable thing though. I explained the memory card thing in an email, if you really want me to get into the details of that one on a forum, just say the word and I'm all over it. I'd probably keep it posted under my questioning of Martz on the Huntmaster's forum thread.
http://www.huntmastersbbs.com/cgi/cgi-ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000304

This one from Martz really kills me though

QuoteI can't promise that I will be nice, but I will promise as usual that I will only make truthfull statements. Considering that their are some among you people that don't like to hear the truth because it tends to remind them of their lack of life skills.v

The only skill I'm missing is the ability to gobble down his lie about multiple FRS licenses for remotes that he "could" use anytime he wants. I crack up every time I think of the time he told me that.

The other great one was this:

QuoteWildlife callers are not the only product or service we provide.

Isn't that obvious!!!! Especially the service....

I wonder if "service" includes threats to come visit me when he's in town?????

Finally, and I'll be done:

QuoteNow that you got facts, how about we just start riling each other up.

Let the riling begin, this is fun. Martz, I really hope this new WT can play 1000 sounds too because I have about 200 of yours ready to go.

Anyways, you know where I stand on this whole thing. If you have any questions just let me know and I'll find an answer. If Martz has any evidence to show he has multiple FRS licenses, show me what you got and I'll graciously apologize for all to see. If not, fess up and say you're full of it.

Dan Carey · November 26, 2008, 06:50:57 PM

Bill loves to hear people brag about STEALING his sounds, and putting them on junk callers.

Get a life and grow up in the process . A grown man arguing about a friggin caller company, and it's ALWAYS FP humpers.

What a joke!!!

browning204 · November 26, 2008, 07:02:23 PM

Peter, I got your E-mail and read it but forgive me, I have had my 2 kids all day by myself and only got to rake and clean the yard before company gets here tomorrow.

I will read it again and respond as soon as I have more time.

snowcamoman · November 26, 2008, 07:28:33 PM

Dan,
If you're referring to me, you're highly mistaken. I have had over 11 WT's including these classic models: The tube model with the speaker built into some kind of ABS tube, a few backpack models with 2 and 3 speakers, 4 programmable units, 2 non-programmable units, and my favorite, the MP3 player. That MP3 model is an absolute beauty with some of the finest dremel work I've seen on an old Diva MP3 player. The nice thing about that MP3 version is that you can ramp up/down the volume rather than being stuck with the 6 presets (10 on the 2030's I believe). There are sounds on some of those old one's that aren't around anymore. I'm talking about an almost full 2 minute Coyote sequence. I've dumped quite a load of cash into those things, so stealing it isn't. I have a load of the old "cards" that the old backpack callers used too, which are kind of fun to tinker around with. They do sound good on the other callers, especially that FoxPro Snow Crow Pro. That thing will mess up your hearing. They also sound good on the Scorpion and Minaska UO. The handy thing is they're all editable. If you're calling me "humper", you're sorely mistaken, I think they'll all flat out call animals...period. I even think that WT makes a good call, because honestly, they DO!!! It's not the caller that so many have an issue with, it's the man running the show. No problems though, there are always ways around those types of things.

Dan Carey · November 26, 2008, 07:39:57 PM

You are not unlike a lot of the American public. You want your ass kissed by an accomplished salesman to make you feel good about your purchase. i on the other hand don't give a damn if I like the maker or not. At the end of the day its performance that counts. I will buy a fury as soon as they hit the streets. I like the Dillon boys, but the caller better be what a caller is supposed to be or it will be down the road in a flash, and I will tell anyone that reads my posts what I think about the product, be it good or bad!

browning204 · November 26, 2008, 08:09:18 PM

Dan, lets go Halves on a Fury. I want to see what this wicked pissa little caller can do with its magical remote. We will share custody of it! But if it is anything like the other callers from the same maker I have used, you will soon get full custody quickly. I won't even want to see it on holidays.

snowcamoman · November 26, 2008, 08:24:31 PM

Dan,
I personally don't care what a salesman says to me, I use my own noggin' to determine what I want. If I wanted my rear to be kissed, why would I be buying the WT's? I can guarantee you that I'm not going to get any kudos from the "salesman" when I buy a WT. All I'm after with the WT's are the sounds. You could say that I'm a "collector" of vintage and unusual animal sounds and callers. I use what works too and if it doesn't it gets put on the shelf for a later "project". Please post your results of the Fury when you get it, especially the remote range and features.
Dan or Mike,
Since this post seems to be about remotes and FCC type things, did you upgrade your 2030 remotes to the newer non-antenna model? If so, why don't you let me know what the FCC ID is on it, I'm curious if it's been re-certified. I don't see an update on FCC's site with a new certification, which is required when you change anything with the antenna. It could just be that FCC's site isn't updated though too. Either way, if you have that information, I'd be glad to hear what it is. I mean, if FoxPro did something like that, you'd have the pitchforks out and be ready to string em' up. Everybody should play by the same rules I would think.

browning204 · November 26, 2008, 08:38:15 PM

I have not up dated my remote, I only learned of it yesterday.

Rich · November 26, 2008, 09:15:10 PM

"Dan, lets go Halves on a Fury. I want to see what this wicked pissa little caller can do with its magical remote. We will share custody of it! But if it is anything like the other callers from the same maker I have used, you will soon get full custody quickly. I won't even want to see it on holidays."
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Once the WCSS belt holder tries a new Fury, we will likely see a W.T. being displayed at a garage sale.