Coyotes acting strange!!!!!!!

[alscalls]

My uncle has a farm that no one lives on and they love to go there to picinic and hunt. There is a real nice little hunt cabin there and a real big, well mowed yard around it.
My uncle went out there a couple of weeks ago to eat lunch with my aunt and do some mowing.
When they sat down to eat a coyote appeared from the near by woods and just stood there starring at them from 30 yds.
My uncle slowly got up and went to his truck 50 yds away and loaded his pistol as he walked closer to the coyote ....it ran off.
I have since been there and hunted one set with no success.
Today my cousin and his wife and two small children sat at the same picnic table to eat lunch.......Two coyotes came within 20 yds. of them showing thier teeth as if to not be affraid......
I have seen foxes act like this before when they get sick...Mange or Rabbies.
Could this bee what is going on?
My cousin shot his pistol at them and claims his wife said he hit one of them twice....22mag.
He said he was so shook up he aint sure he hit anything. Why are they acting like this?
I have had stange encounters here myself but nothing this srange. They would come and scratch the ground all up and pee where I set my scent out and leave scat. But never just walk up on me unaffraid.

[pitw]

Were they pup's?  When I am close to a den the pups will come towards me when I'm quiet.   I've also had coyotes drinking out of the other side of a water trough I'm filling from my truck.

[FinsnFur]

I gotta think I'd invite a couple of my bestest friends to lunch next time.
You may know them, Sturm and Ruger.

I can't tell ya why they'd be acting that way, but I am curious to read some of the responses.
Not to doubt you or anything you have been told but do you have any suspicions that maybe the snarling part was added for drama effect when whoever told you?

Like I said I'm not doubting you But we all know that every time someone see's a coyote that isn't a regular hunter, well the coyote is the biggest one they have ever seen in their life. You know what I'm saying?
So if these people maybe THOUGHT they were snarling and they really werent. Well that would make much more sense, since young of the year can be stupidly brave and curious.

[THO Game Calls]

Perhaps someone else has been using that picnic table and feeding them.  Someone you are unaware of.

Al

[alscalls]

I dont understand it all but they have caught a coyote in town that Frogman posted about. It was so tame they are walking it around on a leash.
They caught a guy a few weeks ago raising pups in his home. Now I get these two reports of strange acting coyotes......
Things aint adding up. I have hunted with my uncle and my cousin my whole life and I know the story is at least true.
Embelished? Could be I am always a sceptic.......I am going to scout it today and see if I can find anything......

[Bills Custom Calls]

I don't know if ya need to do any scouting just take picinic basket and set at the table,they will come,oh yeah
take the gun with you 

[Silencer]

Where we having lunch at today Al ?  I'm buyin, better yet, how bout a good southern BBQ at your uncles farm 

Wonder if they were the pups raised by the humans and let go on their own not knowing how to hunt or to be afraid of humans ?

Keep us updated, this is interesting. 

[HaMeR]

I aint real smart but I think they need to be shot no matter what. Especially if they are approaching that close. It would take just a few seconds for one or two of them to grab a small child & inflict serious life threateng wounds around the jugular vein. I'm not a cold hearted killer but I think the wild in them will eventually win out. Hope you get this resolved with nobody getting hurt Al.

[alscalls]

well fellas,
I went out there today and we have a situation...
I took a gun but was not setting up and calling....I was looking for the yote that was shot last evining. He was definetly hit hard and I believe he will die and must have been a rather large dog from what I could tell.
We looked for a long time and got barked at by a single yote for several min.
I went with my uncle to another spot on the property using an ATV.
We found a lot of scat and tracks and on the way back we had a yot running in front of the ATV up a steep bank.
I think the bastid was following us!
I want to give the place some time to calm down but they are definetly there right now
What do yall think?

[CCP]

What do yall think?

I think I would post a pic of a dead coyote tomorrow afternoon. 

[alscalls]

Can't hunt Sundays........But should I be agressive and ( run em off / Kill what ican if I can)??
Or should I just do a simple set and leave it at that? I am working a lot of overtime but I think I can get there in time to do a good set before dark.

[Rich]

Al,
I think that I would slip in there and make a simple set just as soon as I had time. It doesn't sound like they are afraid of people anyway. Just my own opinion is all.

[alscalls]

Left too right looking at the red blocks.........is the order of the encounters. Far left is twoo weeks ago.....Two in the middle was yesterday......Far right and away from the others is todays sighting while on the ATV.

[alscalls]

Rich I have hunted here before and I have seen coyotes....They seemed afraid before, Now it seems different somehow.
It has not been that long ago that I hunted here. I just would like all the help I can get......I want to do this one right.

[FinsnFur]

Another humble opinion.
This aint rocket science and I'm by farrrrrr no professional. But in my edited copy of your picture in which I have highlighted the heavily wooded areas with yellow, you'll notice that the coyotes are following the wooded protection as far as they possibly can in the direction towards your camp. They are entering via the areas that provide them with as much cover as possible before getting there, the two points closest to the camp.

This is a gimme...any coyote in his right mind does this, they have taught us the hunter that much.

One thing I'm not getting from your picture is the wind direction, but if it were me and the wind direction would allow it, I'd approach the area further back and set up a stand where I've put the red "X".
If the wind is right I'm betting they are going to enter the open area between you and the camp. Be ready

[Frogman]

Al,
     That's really interesting.  I think we need to do a stand there ASAP!!  The wind is really screwey right now, coming out of the East.  That might work well in this situation assuming the map you posted is oriented with N at the top?  Would we be coming in on that road from the W??  Maybe we could go out there tomorrow look around a little and put some raw hamburger up in the crotch of a nearby tree then go back on Monday and kill them.

Jim

[weedwalker]

Rich I have hunted here before and I have seen coyotes....They seemed afraid before, Now it seems different somehow.

So Al, are you saying that since the coyotes have seen you hunting before, that they now feel safe around you? :roflmao: :roflmao:

[alscalls]

Jim:  I would love to set up the way you said but I must enter the property via the private road from the left.....or West of the Pic. and I do not have permission to hunt that part of the field.
There are three properties with right of way to this gated road and I have a key to the gate but only permission to hun from the picnic table and 55 acres to the NE of the pic I am frustrated by this but.....

Frog man: I must ask permission for you first but we should be able to get er done.

weedwalker:  I havent fired any warning shots here yet after calling but maybe the word has spread this far by now.
                                   :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

[FinsnFur]

Well I would definitely look for other approaches. It's not going to do much good to continue to approach from the same direction to the same area time after time and expect them not  to pick up on that pattern.

If you can get in ANY other way, it'll be to your advantage.

[alscalls]