This for Barry to see what a persimmon tree looks like with persimmons.
This is some Persimmon Trees.
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Persimmons on the tree.
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More Persimmons.
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If you eat one of the persimmons at the stage they are now (Green) they will take the swelling out of your head and are :puke: bitter, in the fall they will turn orange and taste pretty good, all Wildlife love them. cc
Way cool Carl. :yoyo: :yoyo: Never saw one of them before for a fact and I found a way to take the swelling out of my head last week without them :doh2:. Why would they remove swelling :confused:.
Looks like they got fly poop all over the leaves. :laf:
Barry you have to be careful asking me questions like that you never know what I might come up with, :biggrin: but actually they will make you pucker just like this :puke: make your mouth draw. But good when ripe. We have a Deer Stand at about 250 yards from those trees and is one of our favorite places to hunt, see lots of Deer along with other critters. cc
Looks like a good crop on that tree there. Be a nice place to be after the frost.
Were those trees cultivated for a crop or are they wild growing?
So are persimmons a fruit or a nut :shrug:. I hate being an idiot but hey I was born with what I have :readthis:.
It is a fruit. Coyotes love them.
Semp lets be honest. If it is a wild critter it loves persimmons :eyebrow:
What's it taste like :shrug:. Besides a Persimmon :doh2:.
Sweet and and pulpy. but to compare them to something is impossible. Ya got to try one to find out.
The wood from a persimmon tree is also an excellent wood to make calls from. :readthis: It's very dense and solid, but it is a very plain looking wood that is light tan in color.
Brian
Quote from: slagmaker on July 14, 2010, 09:16:18 PM
Sweet and and pulpy. but to compare them to something is impossible. Ya got to try one to find out.
Well then send me a seed or two :wink:. How much harder can a Persimmon be to grow than a Peanut :shrug:. And don't forget the Buckeyes :innocentwhistle:.
OK I will have to see what I can find. I have several buckeyes so ifnf I find some persimmon seeds to send your way you will get some buckeyes as well
The Persimmon has a unique taste, makes real good jelly. The trees in the picture are wild growing but we do fertilize them from time to time, there are Persimmon trees all over the property and new ones coming up every year and we avoid cutting them down, every tree in the picture produce a heavy load of fruit every year but not all trees produce fruit, strange? we have one area that we call the Persimmon Patch that is 2 to 3 aces in size with 25 to 30 trees in it with only about 25% produce fruit, we have not figured out why some produce and some don't, they all look the same and don't know if one is male or female but they are a magnet for wildlife. CC
Ever seen a deer drunk on 'em? If they spend more than an hour eating them they ferment on hte stomache. I watched one for an hour and a half once before I got a shot. And for some strange reason deer here only feed under certain trees.
And coons are the most fun to watch around one. They do get into some strange positions trying to the ripe fruits. And even fall out occasionally. My laughing has cost me more than one bow shot over the years at deer. I don't know why they spook :shrug:Jimmie
Thats pretty neat...I wonder if Possumal will be hitting them up when they ripen ... :biggrin:...I allus heard possums loved em.
Quote from: Jimmie in Ky on July 15, 2010, 04:00:39 PM
Ever seen a deer drunk on 'em? If they spend more than an hour eating them they ferment on hte stomache. I watched one for an hour and a half once before I got a shot. And for some strange reason deer here only feed under certain trees.
And coons are the most fun to watch around one. They do get into some strange positions trying to the ripe fruits. And even fall out occasionally. My laughing has cost me more than one bow shot over the years at deer. I don't know why they spook :shrug:Jimmie
I'd spend the days out there watching that stuff and never worry about shooting anything. Tha t would be right up my alley for a fact. While in Australia I found a tree covered with grape vines and the birds were getting snookered. They soon found out it was not a good idea to drink and fly :alscalls: :alscalls: :alscalls:
I've never seen the Deer get drunk that would be something to see, I have seen the Coons fall out of the tree trying to get the persimmons out on the very end of the limb, Jimmy I guess the Deer that spooked never heard a guy from Kentucky laughing like a Hyena. :hahaha: :hahaha: cc
I have seen deer and horses get drunk from eating ferminted fruit. It is quite comical to watch.
To let Barry know what a ripe Persimmon looks like I took a couple of picture while Deer Hunting this past weekend.
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The Deer are eating them as fast as they hit the ground, CC
possum love em and grays will eat em too.
here we have so many this year that theyre literally laying deep under the trees.
i tried to make persimmon butter a couple years ago..i threw the recipe in the trash.lol
I don't know about the butter but good home brewed Persimmon wine is mighty fine :biggrin: :eyebrownod:
So what do they taste like :shrug:. Kinda/sorta look like crab apples but I ain't eating a green one[I still don't know why but Straycat has cured me] :laf: These things grow like everywhere down there :shrug:. Man that would be like baiting I'm thinking but legal. :wink:
Once again thanks. :bowingsmilie:
I think a crabapple is very is a good comparison but the texture is different kinda tart like a crap apple. My neighbor to my property has one growing and got some seed from him last year . got about 10 seeds only one to propigate. tree was planted in may and the tree is now about 2 feet tall. i hear can be like 10 years before they fruit. You have to put them in substrate or or winter over in the fridge or cold area and then soak for several days or use dand paper to break the husk on the seed. I want to plany a variety called fuyu(insert comment here freely) they get the size of a baseball, are a japanese variety
My first encounter with a persimmon was a "buddy" handing me one and saying try this.... I didn't know your gums could curl back from your teeth! :alscalls: I guess I was about 14 at the time. There are male and female trees.. some bearing fruit and others not... the wood is very hard... they used to use it for golf drivers. :wink:
crab apples to persimmons are like lobsters to crawdads, lol.
after the frost persimmons are sposed to be good...
Persimmons after frost are good and the make good Jelly, they have a sweet taste better that a Crab apple, but when green are very bitter and will make your mouth pucker up, The wild life love them. I am not sure about the male and female but there are some that will never produce, they are kind of a mystery. cc
its a male and female , when i was trying to get the seed to propigate they talked about the male and female trees and need a male ... welll u know the story cross pollination and all. the females produce the fruit. Gonna try to get some more and grow a bunch and put them in a field I have just for that reason
the wildlife that is
Were did you get the info on the male and female, I have heard that you can Graft the trees that don't produce, I understand the cross pollination but we have places that all the trees within 400 or 500 yards produce and then place that don;t produce, :shrug: do you know if there is a way to tell the difference in male or female? I know people that grow trees that would love to have that information. cc
Quote from: Jimmie in Ky on July 15, 2010, 04:00:39 PM
My laughing has cost me more than one bow shot over the years at deer. I don't know why they spook :shrug:Jimmie
My guess is they saw your face. I get spooked every now and then when I see you as well. Why would a deer be any different. :laf:
My first time with a persimmon was very similar to Yotehnters. We were in Duncan, Oklahoma at my great grandmothers house and my dad handed me this little green fruit and told me to eat it. I was just 8 years old and couldn't believe what was happening to my mouth. Looking back on it makes me think it was very similar to squeezing a tube of Preparation H in your mouth. :eyebrownod:
Quote from: Carolina Coyote on October 21, 2010, 08:22:23 AMdo you know if there is a way to tell the difference in male or female?
Just look underneath the leaves. :alscalls:
Persimmon trees are usually either male or female, but some trees have both male and female flowers. On male plants, especially, occasional perfect (bisexual) flowers occur, producing an atypical fruit. A tree's sexual expression can vary from one year to the other. Many cultivars are parthenocarpic (setting seedless fruit without pollination), although some climates require pollination for adequate production. When plants not needing pollination are pollinated, they will produce fruits with seeds and may be larger and have a different flavor and texture than do their seedless counterparts.
http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/persimmon.html is the link and found some of it while looking thru nuseries talking about planting diff varieties to get pollination hope this helps. Mine I grew from seed this spring is now 25 inches and i hope it isnt a male . but probably wont produce with a female. hope the bees hit the neighbor tree and mine together :alscalls: :alscalls:other wise . If hand to sand paper the husk to get to start growing, or stratify them. got any seed that are good u wanna send up message me . wanna try to plant a bunch more on my place., will send $$$ for u to mail the seeds. thanks
that should read without a female