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Title: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: Butcher45 on November 03, 2010, 09:01:52 PM
of these calls (I can take it lol).  I'm pretty new at making calls, so I could use some honest feedback.



(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x65/butcher45/Calls/P1020022.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x65/butcher45/Calls/P1020035.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x65/butcher45/Calls/P1010957.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x65/butcher45/Calls/P1010992.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x65/butcher45/Calls/P1010966.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x65/butcher45/Calls/P1010994.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x65/butcher45/Calls/P1020186.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x65/butcher45/Calls/P1020051.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x65/butcher45/Calls/P1020125.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x65/butcher45/Calls/P1020173.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x65/butcher45/Calls/P1020145.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x65/butcher45/Calls/P1020166.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x65/butcher45/Calls/P1020074.jpg)
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: Bills Custom Calls on November 03, 2010, 09:12:50 PM
Are you painting them
They are certainly different

What material did you make them out of
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: Butcher45 on November 03, 2010, 09:17:42 PM
Quote from: Bills Custom Calls on November 03, 2010, 09:12:50 PM
Are you painting them
They are certainly different

What material did you make them out of


I make these by hand (no lathe....my hands are my lathe) out of borosilicate.
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: Hawks Feather on November 03, 2010, 09:31:53 PM
First time that I can remember seeing calls made from glass.  Do you have your own glass blowing set up or are you doing it at a college?  Having watched my wife work glass in college (many years ago) I can say that it isn't easy and you have done a nice job on them.

Jerry
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: Butcher45 on November 03, 2010, 09:38:25 PM
Quote from: Hawks Feather on November 03, 2010, 09:31:53 PM
First time that I can remember seeing calls made from glass.  Do you have your own glass blowing set up or are you doing it at a college?  Having watched my wife work glass in college (many years ago) I can say that it isn't easy and you have done a nice job on them.

Jerry

Thanks.  To my knowledge, these are the very firstl borosilicate game calls.  I work out of a shop space I rent.
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Post by: slagmaker on November 03, 2010, 09:39:29 PM
Thems cool. I would love to hear one. That glass has to give them a diffrent sound than wood or plastic.
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Post by: FinsnFur on November 03, 2010, 09:40:22 PM
They are glass??  Wow.
I was planning my reply as I looked through the pics, which was going to start with something like...."I dont really care for the shape, but now that I hear they are glass....that put's a whole new spin on things.

Very interesting thats for sure. I'm looking forward to seeing and hearing more about these.
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Post by: Butcher45 on November 03, 2010, 09:44:50 PM
Quote from: slagmaker on November 03, 2010, 09:39:29 PM
Thems cool. I would love to hear one. That glass has to give them a diffrent sound than wood or plastic.

These calls are just now starting to hit the field.  Should start hearing some feedback on them soon.  I am going to get with a friend of mine that has some recording equipment so I can record some calling with them, and post what they sound like.
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: pitw on November 03, 2010, 09:48:47 PM
You could send one to me if you want to see it beside a dead coyote :innocentwhistle:.
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: Butcher45 on November 03, 2010, 09:53:39 PM
Quote from: pitw on November 03, 2010, 09:48:47 PM
You could send one to me if you want to see it beside a dead coyote :innocentwhistle:.

Tried to send you a message, but can't view your profile/find an e-mail.
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Post by: FinsnFur on November 03, 2010, 09:56:28 PM
He's mooching Butcher45 :alscalls:
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Post by: John_NY on November 03, 2010, 09:58:32 PM
They are pretty slick. I have no idea about that material. I'm assuming it's not real fragile?   Have you give any thought as how to attatch a lanyard on them?

John
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: pitw on November 03, 2010, 10:01:42 PM
Quote from: FinsnFur on November 03, 2010, 09:56:28 PM
He's mooching Butcher45 :alscalls:

 Dang it Boss if you tell all my secrets I'll be screwed. :holdon:  

  Butcher we are going to have to wait until you talk yourself into the pm prison :iroll:.  
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: Butcher45 on November 03, 2010, 10:04:47 PM
Quote from: John_NY on November 03, 2010, 09:58:32 PM
They are pretty slick. I have no idea about that material. I'm assuming it's not real fragile?   Have you give any thought as how to attatch a lanyard on them?

John


I try to create a constriction in the shape so the loop doesn't travel much if at all.  I have considered adding rings of raised glass to form a groove between them, using a tool to form a groove in the glass, putting strategically placed marbles around it......  The toneboards I just started using have lanyard grooves built-in (as seen on a few of these calls) so that frees-up what I can do with the shaping quite a bit.

They might break if you dropped them onto a hard surface from a good height.....borosilicate is more durable than one might think when they think "glass". 
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Post by: FinsnFur on November 03, 2010, 10:05:27 PM
You can PM him, moocher...he just cant PM back...yet.
PM him your email address and pick up the conversation.

I cant believe I just led you through that. :doh2:
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: John_NY on November 03, 2010, 10:09:33 PM
It sounds like your options are limitless in things you can do with these calls.  How much will you be selling them for or haven't you thought that far ahead?

John
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: pitw on November 03, 2010, 10:10:20 PM
Quote from: FinsnFur on November 03, 2010, 10:05:27 PM
You can PM him, moocher...he just cant PM back...yet.
PM him your email address and pick up the conversation.

I cant believe I just led you through that. :doh2:

 Now what the [L] are you talking about :confused:.  Just trying to increase your post count I suppose :argh:.
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: pitw on November 03, 2010, 10:11:18 PM
Quote from: John_NY on November 03, 2010, 10:09:33 PM
It sounds like your options are limitless in things you can do with these calls.  How much will you be selling them for or haven't you thought that far ahead?

John

Hey hang on with these type of questions while I'm begging :madd:.
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: John_NY on November 03, 2010, 10:18:52 PM
I won't buy until I hear your critique Barry.  :doh2:

John
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: Butcher45 on November 03, 2010, 10:23:09 PM
Quote from: John_NY on November 03, 2010, 10:09:33 PM
It sounds like your options are limitless in things you can do with these calls.  How much will you be selling them for or haven't you thought that far ahead?

John

Lots of options for sure.  I can shape the chamber of the call any way I want.  I'll put some calls up for sale here pretty quick.  Just getting started selling them.  I guarantee everything I sell (will even pay for return shipping), and only send out what I would hunt with myself.

Have calls will haggle (haggle.....means you gotta come off of SOMETHING to get one hehe).  Well......OK it's FinsNFur's house so I guess I'll send him a couple calls.

I'll post-up some calls for sale here pretty quick.
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: pitw on November 03, 2010, 10:33:13 PM
Quote from: Butcher45 on November 03, 2010, 10:23:09 PM
 Well......OK it's FinsNFur's house so I guess I'll send him a couple calls.


He don't hunt :confused:.
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: pitw on November 03, 2010, 10:39:53 PM
Quote from: pitw on November 03, 2010, 10:33:13 PM
Quote from: Butcher45 on November 03, 2010, 10:23:09 PM
 Well......OK it's FinsNFur's house so I guess I'll send him a couple calls.


He don't hunt :confused:.

Let me correct that and ask, do you make squirrel calls  :biggrin:.
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: Butcher45 on November 03, 2010, 10:41:57 PM
Quote from: pitw on November 03, 2010, 10:39:53 PM
Quote from: pitw on November 03, 2010, 10:33:13 PM
Quote from: Butcher45 on November 03, 2010, 10:23:09 PM
 Well......OK it's FinsNFur's house so I guess I'll send him a couple calls.


He don't hunt :confused:.

Let me correct that and ask, do you make squirrel calls  :biggrin:.


Not sure if I'm missing an inside joke or not........ I will be working on some sqwerl calls in the future.
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: pitw on November 03, 2010, 10:44:52 PM
He showed a pic of a squirrel a little while back so I was wondering. :alscalls: :alscalls: 
  I'd sure take any of them you showed off your hands though if they sound anything like a Canadian animal in distress :readthis:.
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: slagmaker on November 03, 2010, 10:51:51 PM
I know they use the same material to make "pipes" with and them things hold up fairley well.
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: Butcher45 on November 03, 2010, 10:53:32 PM


That clear brownie pan you all probably have in the kitchen......same material.
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: pitw on November 03, 2010, 10:54:42 PM
Quote from: slagmaker on November 03, 2010, 10:51:51 PM
I know they use the same material to make "pipes" with and them things hold up fairley well.

Heeeeeeeeeeeeey dual purpose :yoyo: :yoyo:  I like that and I  would sure like to see an electronic call boast about something this cool. :laf: :laf:
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: Hawks Feather on November 03, 2010, 10:58:16 PM
Barry,

Glass calls can only replicate US animals.  Really sorry about that.   :biggrin:


Butcher,

There are many stories that have drifted around FnF (Fins and Fur) for quite some time.  As you are here a little longer you will get to where you know most of them.  Some are only told after you learn the secret handshake and go through your initiation.  You do have to have (25 I think) posts before you can start sending PMs to members.  It helps reduce the chance of a spammer getting through the background check and trying to sell Viagra to everyone (except Cathryn).  We do have our own form of spammer (goes by the name of Todd Rahm) and claims to be a call collector and when he sees your work he will be contacting you.

Have fun here,

Jerry
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: Butcher45 on November 03, 2010, 11:26:12 PM
     I put a few calls up for sale in the Hand Call Store.
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: vvarmitr on November 04, 2010, 08:04:52 AM
I'm not into acrylic & I'm thinking "big deal  :iroll: "
The more I looked at 'em the more I realized they were glass.  :shock2:  :thumb2:
Glass blowing is one craft I've always wanted to do!!!  :eyebrow:
The horn style howler is sweet!  :bowingsmilie:

Maybe in the near future you can show us how you make your calls by video or pix sequence.  :eyebrow:
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Post by: Frogman on November 07, 2010, 03:42:18 PM
Those sure are pretty!!

Jim
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Post by: LORDDAL on November 14, 2010, 01:48:59 AM
I have to say at first I was really wondering then when I saw that you make them from glass I was  :bowingsmilie: man that is a real interesting way to make some very fine looking calls  :yoyo: :highclap: will have to get a few from you at some point or another for sure keep up the great work
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: pitw on November 14, 2010, 08:39:00 AM
I would order up a few too if butcher would post 2 more times.
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Post by: Butcher45 on November 14, 2010, 04:10:45 PM
Quote from: pitw on November 14, 2010, 08:39:00 AM
I would order up a few too if butcher would post 2 more times.

I check my e-mail several times a day it's in my profile.

It will be a couple of weeks before I can make another cowhorn-style howler (or any calls I don't already have made-up)....I'm setting-up a whole new shop.  Hoping I can find a the right torch available SOMEWHERE.  There are only a select-few torches that meet my criteria/budget for a new torch, and one of them was recently dis-continued with the replacement having yet to be released.
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: pitw on November 14, 2010, 09:50:52 PM
Butcher you really don't want me trying email :noway:. 
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Post by: vvarmitr on November 15, 2010, 08:34:30 AM
What torch do ya need?
Post a pix or two & a model # & you might be surprised who might come up w/ one.  :wink:
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Post by: Butcher45 on November 15, 2010, 10:34:20 AM
http://www.glasstorchtech.com/phantom.html

http://artistryinglass.on.ca/store/product.php?productid=8250&cat=335&page=1
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Post by: Yotehntr on November 15, 2010, 12:42:50 PM
 :laf:  How about it VV... you have one laying around the garage?  :alscalls:
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Post by: Butcher45 on November 15, 2010, 09:23:13 PM
     Wow was I ever in luck today!

     Found a new-condition Bethlehem Barracuda with a cosmetic dent in the face for CHEAP!  It's the torch I wanted the most, and was just dis-continued to boot!  Got an equally good deal on a very nice kiln (also just the one I wanted, that is currently out of stock everywhere), squirrel-cage fan and motor ($700+set-up), and a whole bunch of tools and supplies. 

     This economy makes for some great deals for the buyer.  Great day!

http://artistryinglass.on.ca/store/product.php?productid=8250&cat=335&page=1
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Post by: FinsnFur on November 16, 2010, 05:58:48 AM
Well ya gotta like that. :congrats:
I'm looking forward to what comes of this now that you have one :eyebrow:

Your right about about finding some good deals...people are ditching things at an alarming pace.
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Post by: vvarmitr on November 16, 2010, 07:36:31 AM
At least someone must be living right!   :yahoo:  :yahoo:  :yahoo:
Now do you do glass work for a living & make calls for a hobby or is the whole glass thing a hobby?  :wo:


Hey Brad --------  (_*_)
:laf:
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Post by: Yotehntr on November 16, 2010, 11:22:19 AM
 :alscalls:  I was just expecting him to have a rosebud that was outdated too James.... Got tickled when he pulled that out of his hat.  :wink:
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Post by: Butcher45 on November 16, 2010, 04:18:52 PM
     I started blowing glass for a living in '97.  Took some time off here and there (especially the last few years).  The handcalls idea is just the motivation I needed.
Title: Re: Let me know what you think.......
Post by: vvarmitr on November 18, 2010, 12:40:23 PM
You mean you can make a living at it?!?  :shock2:
:laf:
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Post by: Butcher45 on November 18, 2010, 03:30:21 PM
Quote from: vvarmitr on November 18, 2010, 12:40:23 PM
You mean you can make a living at it?!?  :shock2:
:laf:

There are only two things in this world more collected than glass art: coins, and stamps.  I'd get into some serious trouble if I tried making coins and stamps, so glass it is.

It's all about how fast you can sell your product (having an innovative product no one else makes helps a lot).  It's a lot of work, but it's worth it, being your own boss and all.

Gotta get the new shop up and going (hopefully this weekend) so I can bust-out a few hundred X-Mas ornaments.  Tis the season!
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Post by: FinsnFur on November 18, 2010, 04:58:15 PM
I'm looking forward to this...leave him alone guys so he can get er set up. :biggrin:
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Post by: Bopeye on November 18, 2010, 05:17:58 PM
Now some Christmas ornaments would be awesome. I have been buying my wife and kids an ornament every Christmas that I have spent with them. Started that tradition the first Christmas my wife and I started dating. Would love to see what you can make. Might be interested in buying something like that.  :eyebrownod: