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Title: recommendations
Post by: Lilminnesotangl on December 04, 2007, 09:23:12 AM
I am 4' 11" and my arms are pretty short, I would like to get a gun for hunting. Any recommendations would be great!
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: FOsteology on December 04, 2007, 09:47:41 AM
My recommendation would be a Youth size rifle. Personally, I'd opt for a Remington Model 700 or Model Seven.

For a good all around cartridge the 7mm-08 is hard to beat. If you hand load, the .260 Remington is another excellent choice.

I have a Remington Model Seven SS with a 22" barrel and a youth walnut stock I was going to sell within the next couple weeks. If it's something you would be interested in, let me know and I'll post up some pictures.
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: Lilminnesotangl on December 04, 2007, 09:49:48 AM
Quote from: FOsteology on December 04, 2007, 09:47:41 AM
My recommendation would be a Youth size rifle. Personally, I'd opt for a Remington Model 700 or Model Seven.

For a good all around cartridge the 7mm-08 is hard to beat. If you hand load, the .260 Remington is another excellent choice.

I have a Remington Model Seven SS with a 22" barrel and a youth walnut stock I was going to sell within the next couple weeks. If it's something you would be interested in, let me know and I'll post up some pictures.

yes please post some pictures, i'm interested.
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: HaMeR on December 04, 2007, 10:03:01 AM
Savage also makes a youth model. Altho I don't know about wood stocks on them. Which is just what I prefer.
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: FOsteology on December 04, 2007, 11:25:08 AM
No one nowadays seems to make a decent youth stock. It's either a crappy tupper ware stock or cheap wood.  :sad:

Another option if you prefer a wood stock is find a nice looking stock to fit whatever rifle you end up purchasing, and have it cut down to size with a 1" Decelerator pad.

Personally, I prefer a good synthetic stock as I do a lot of hunting in nasty weather, and in thick heavy thorn infested brush. Wood stock if not cared for properly on a regular basis will swell, crack, and throw off your POI. A good synthetic like a McMillan can handle the abuse without the concerns that wood has.


Here's a few quick pictures of the Model 7 SS with Youth stock:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/FOsteology/Rifles/Model_7SS_7mm_08/PC040001.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/FOsteology/Rifles/Model_7SS_7mm_08/PC040002.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/FOsteology/Rifles/Model_7SS_7mm_08/PC040003.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/FOsteology/Rifles/Model_7SS_7mm_08/PC040004.jpg)

Sans the rings (as not included) it weighs in at 6 lbs 2 oz

Fully loaded (depending on scope and rings used) it'll go between 7 to 7 1/2 pounds all up.

This one has a 22" barrel, and with the youth stock the balance is just a tad nose heavy. A 20" barrel would probably balance it much better. As luck would have it, I traded a guy for another Rem Seven 7mm-08 SS which has a 20" barrel. Should arrive at my FFL holders place tomorrow or Thursday.
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: FOsteology on December 04, 2007, 11:26:14 AM
Forgot to mention, the LOP is 12 3/8
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: Hawks Feather on December 04, 2007, 12:20:08 PM
I think Fos' recommendations are pretty good.  I read a little more about the 7mm-08 and it sounds like a pretty solid round.  The write ups of the 7mm-08 and .260 are pretty close - the reloading manual writers like both of them.  The 7mm-08 has been used in Silhouette shooting, which if I had to pick between the two would make me lean that way.  Bullets (if you are reloading):  For the .260 - - - 85, 100, 107, 120, 140, 160, For the 7mm-08 - - - 100, 120, 130, 140, 150, 160, 168, & 175.  Look like either would be a good choice.

The youth stock should be about right for you.  I am 5'8" and like shorter lengths of pull, especially if I have a thick coat on.  I have shot a few rifles with youth stocks on them and if I had a thick coat, I would consider it.  I have a couple of MacMillan stocks and they are excellent, but I  also would not rule out some of the better synthetic stocks like came on some of the older Remington 700s.  Personally, I do not care for the Tupperware stock that was used on the 700 ADL.  There was too much flex and I felt that accuracy was lost with it.  (I had a .243 with the Tupperware stock and it left within 3 months.  I had bought it for possible "wet" hunts.  I did try the barreled action in another stock and the accuracy improved, so my thoughts are that the accuracy was stock related.)

Fos,

Maybe it is there and I missed it, but what caliber is the Model 7?

Jerry
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: FOsteology on December 04, 2007, 12:23:34 PM
Quote from: Hawks Feather on December 04, 2007, 12:20:08 PM

Fos,

Maybe it is there and I missed it, but what caliber is the Model 7?

Jerry

7mm-08  :biggrin:
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: cb223 on December 04, 2007, 07:29:23 PM
What Jerry and Fos said.
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: Lilminnesotangl on December 04, 2007, 08:26:26 PM
 :doh2: my fiance tells me I need a shotgun  :madd:
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: Hawks Feather on December 04, 2007, 08:54:21 PM
Tell him to buy you the shotgun and you will buy the rifle.  Sounds like a Win-Win to me.

Jerry
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: FOsteology on December 04, 2007, 08:59:43 PM
Lilminnesotangl,

What game animals are you going to hunt? What type of terrain/environment do you hunt in? Average shot distance? How do you hunt (spot and stalk, still, or stand)?
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: bowslinger on December 05, 2007, 06:55:19 AM
since we live in a shotgun only area i'm going to get her a 20 nef single shot with a slug and shot barrle to see how well she likes gun hunting
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: FOsteology on December 05, 2007, 09:41:58 AM
Wouldn't be my first choice for a shotgun unless $$ was extremely tight. If you do go that route, be sure to put on a good pad!
My son had one (NEF 20 gauge) a couple years ago..... didn't like the recoil. Ruined him on shooting for a couple months as he was scared (experience was that bad....) The stock shape and drop on the NEF seems to accentuate felt recoil.

I have a Remington 870 20 gauge slug gun (rifled barrel with cantilever mount) and he can shoot that with no distress.
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: Hawks Feather on December 05, 2007, 09:59:47 AM
I haven't shot the NEF, but I have an 870 in the Express model (with both barrels) and it is pretty nice to shoot.  I like the non-Express model better, but I got this for the girls to shoot and knew that it was not going to spend much time in the field.

Jerry
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: bowslinger on December 05, 2007, 10:29:30 AM
i have a mossberg 12 trophy sluggster i'm also thinking a bout getting her that in 20
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: vvarmitr on December 05, 2007, 05:42:11 PM
In raising girls I learnt NOT to go w/ the single shot route. :rolleye:
I actually had them shooting an auto. One shell at a time. Have an 1100 LW which the action hangs open after the last shot so all they had to do was take another shell from their pocket, drop it in the action, push the button on the underside & they were ready to go again.  Doesn't get much simpler than that.  :wink:  Doesn't take much muscle & takes some of the recoil out.

Never felt under gunned w/ a 20ga. Most of my hunting life I never owned a 12ga & all the deer I've shotgunned has been w/ the 20ga. Actually prefer it over the 12ga. ;yes;



Unless I skimmed over it you still didn't say what your hunting. 
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: HaMeR on December 05, 2007, 06:29:01 PM
I was at the gun shop this afternoon & Mossberg has a shotgun with interchangeable recoil pads for length of pull as the youngster grows taller/bigger. Might be something to look into. :shrug:
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: Lilminnesotangl on December 05, 2007, 08:01:43 PM
Quote from: vvarmitr on December 05, 2007, 05:42:11 PM
In raising girls I learnt NOT to go w/ the single shot route. :rolleye:
I actually had them shooting an auto. One shell at a time. Have an 1100 LW which the action hangs open after the last shot so all they had to do was take another shell from their pocket, drop it in the action, push the button on the underside & they were ready to go again.  Doesn't get much simpler than that.  :wink:  Doesn't take much muscle & takes some of the recoil out.

Never felt under gunned w/ a 20ga. Most of my hunting life I never owned a 12ga & all the deer I've shotgunned has been w/ the 20ga. Actually prefer it over the 12ga. ;yes;



Unless I skimmed over it you still didn't say what your hunting. 


I am brand spanking new to hunting  :highclap: and I want to hunt deer along with the stupid raccoons that hang around our house.
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: Lilminnesotangl on December 05, 2007, 08:06:12 PM
Quote from: HaMeR on December 05, 2007, 06:29:01 PM
I was at the gun shop this afternoon & Mossberg has a shotgun with interchangeable recoil pads for length of pull as the youngster grows taller/bigger. Might be something to look into. :shrug:


my fiance would like to know what gauge it is? lol, this youngster isn't going to be growing taller or bigger
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: HaMeR on December 05, 2007, 08:26:12 PM
 :laf:

20ga for sure. I didn't look real close & now I know I should have. Sorry!! :biggrin:
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: HaMeR on December 05, 2007, 08:48:02 PM
Here's a link to the above mentioned shotgun. Apparently it only comes in 20ga. But it comes with both barrels.

Mossberg 500 Bantanweight Field/Deer Combo 20ga. In the picture you will see two arrows,, < >,, this will scroll you to the shotgun with the buttstock segmented in the picture.

HTH

http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.asp?id=22&display=feat
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: bowslinger on December 05, 2007, 09:11:51 PM
she can use the 22 single shot i gave her for coons or use her bow like i do i think she be deer turkey mostly maybe rabbit and squirel 
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: Hawks Feather on December 05, 2007, 10:28:58 PM
Come on Bow.  We all know you are just stalling and waiting for December 25th to get here. 

Jerry


P.S. Lilminnesotang, did I say that the way you wanted me to?
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: Lilminnesotangl on December 06, 2007, 07:41:29 PM
Quote from: Hawks Feather on December 05, 2007, 10:28:58 PM
Come on Bow.  We all know you are just stalling and waiting for December 25th to get here. 

Jerry


P.S. Lilminnesotang, did I say that the way you wanted me to?


perfectly ;), only a gun could top the Diamond Edge I bought myself
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: Hawks Feather on December 06, 2007, 08:09:50 PM
"Only a gun could top the Diamond Edge."

A lady with good tastes.

Jerry
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: bowslinger on December 07, 2007, 03:13:15 PM
I paid $275.00 for my Edge and I thought it was going to be a 2007 for that price but I got the shock of a lifetime when it was a 2008
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: bowslinger on December 07, 2007, 03:14:03 PM
whoops, I didn't log Bowslinger off  :roflmao:
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: Hawks Feather on December 07, 2007, 03:40:19 PM
You know that last post could open up a WHOLE lot of replies.   :innocentwhistle:

Jerry
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: bowslinger on December 07, 2007, 03:49:25 PM
we have a good sense of humor, so I say bring it on  :roflmao:
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: Hawks Feather on December 07, 2007, 04:02:21 PM
Is that post from the HeBow or the SheBow?     :biggrin:
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: bowslinger on December 07, 2007, 04:50:28 PM
shebow annd she left me the kids to go shopping
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: Hawks Feather on December 07, 2007, 05:32:22 PM
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Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: fuzz624 on December 07, 2007, 06:14:59 PM
     Bowslinger,it looks like you have done well.I took my wife hunting once and i said never again.All i heard was questions like this.When are we going to see something?Is this how you hunt?Is it always this boring.Why do you like this?Is there any deer out here?Why dont they come here?Is the ground always this cold?Do you think we will see something soon?Is there a better way to hunt than this?Can we shoot that squirrel?Can squirrels get rabies?Have you ever seen anyone get bit by a squirrel?Does that squirrel look mad to you? :doh2:
     All this in less than 2 hours.I married a good woman but not a hunter.As for the gun.I like the Mossberg bantan weight.They are fine little guns,and the 20 gauge will kill anything that you will be hunting.I also prefer the 20ga. over the 12ga. for a deer gun.I like single shot shotguns for starting hunters but they do have a little more recoil over a pump or semiauto.Besides if you buy her a single shot now you will just have to upgrade later.Angl i hope you learn to love this sport as much as the rest of us.Good luck.

     Fuzz
Title: Re: recommendations
Post by: cb223 on December 08, 2007, 09:12:15 PM
Quote from: bowslinger on December 07, 2007, 03:14:03 PM
whoops, I didn't log Bowslinger off  :roflmao:

I think it is best just to keep my mouth shut, even though alot of things come to mind :hahaha: