17 winchester super magnum

CCP · January 02, 2013, 05:44:54 PM

Looking at the new rimfire line I believe the new 17 Winchester supper magnum fails.

"These cartridge makers don't get it".

I was really, really hoping they would get it together and produce a new .22 rimfire pushing a 40gr bullet 2200 fps plus. That would be something better to knock down predators for management areas and night hunters that were limited to rimfire.

looks like they made a 50 yard 17HMR a 75 yard HMR at best.

Hidehunter · January 02, 2013, 07:43:02 PM

They say it will hit an 8" target out to 250 yards

Personally Id rather have a centerfire 17 so I could reload it. I dont night hunt hardly at all anymore but think I regs changed to where we can use a centerfire now but not for sure.

bigben · January 03, 2013, 06:01:17 AM

In certain parts of pa you need to use rimfire only. I have a hmr and it hasn't been used since the first year i owned it. I have a feeling more counties in pq are going to be added to the rimfire only category soon and this might be a good option for fox and coon. I wonder what the ballistics of it are? How many ftlbs is it putting out at 100 yds?

nastygunz · January 03, 2013, 06:22:41 PM

http://www.huntingclub.com/blogs/articletype/articleview/articleid/14679/new-raging-rimfire-17-winchester-super-magnum#.UOYfzqzv5rM

HaMeR · January 04, 2013, 08:08:23 AM

There is also going to be a 20gr HP offered. If it will hit the 3000fps mark I am in on this one. I love RF rifles & know what the 20gr XTP will do in the HMR. I look forward to reading more real life data on this one.

HuntnCarve · January 04, 2013, 08:50:40 AM

I'm sort of with HaMer on this one. I hunt a lot of "rimfire" only areas. I've not been overly impressed with the .17 HMR. I've never had a problem with the .22 Magnum. So I've been using that cartridge with good success. I love the Winchester Supreme 34 grain .22Mag load.
I think this new .17 will turn out to be what the original .17 HMR tried to be all along? Time will tell?

Dave

CCP · January 04, 2013, 04:17:40 PM

Shot the 17 rem center fire for half a season on coyotes and wasn't impressed at all. Shot a few boxes of 17HMR at the range a few times and liked its trajectory and grouping but couldn't find myself buying one to replace the 22 mag for hunting coyotes on Management areas.

I really wanted a 22 super mag for management coyotes. If I found myself one summer at Glens or Dave's with those ground hogs I think it would be a very very fun round. Guess I will have to talk Glenn into getting one and take him up on a trip to Ohio and shoot some Groundhogs.

Since you guys got your 17 Super Mag write some letters to the gun ammo companies and help get me a 22 SUPER MAG.....

HaMeR · January 04, 2013, 07:54:40 PM

You're always Welcome to stop by & snap a few groundhog heads around with one of our HMR's Richard!!

I don't know that the energy will equate to killing coyotes efficiently or not. My main reasons for owning one is mainly that I can. Then there's those pesky groundhogs I get to shoot when I can spot them before Diane does. Not to mention the fact how much I enjoy the rimfires!!

As for coyotes or Bobcats I can see it being an effective round IF the time is available for the proper shot. Probably more so on cats than coyotes. I think the biggest concern is going to be bullet construction. If the 20gr HP can effectively penetrate a coyote shoulder and retain about 80% of it's weight then it should have significant wound channel capabilities to kill it. I would shoot the V-Max for groundhogs & crows tho.

I think it's going to be an interesting round & am anxious to see 1st hand what it will do.

CCP · January 04, 2013, 09:23:08 PM

QuoteMy main reasons for owning one is mainly that I can.

I will agree and back you on that..

HaMeR · January 05, 2013, 07:02:08 AM

And I will do the same for you.

I can already hear the THUMP from this round!! Gonna be a looooong wait!!

HaMeR · January 06, 2013, 03:15:18 PM

Just found this. The 17WSM is based on the .27cal nail gun blank. Here Winchester has been making those nail gun blanks & finally decided to neck the .27cal down to .172 & offer a new magnum RF round. Looks like,, at this point anyhow,, the ammo cost will be doable in comparison to the 17HMR. Now I know a lot of people aren't gonna want to drop $15/50 on a box but I certainly will with no hesitation. I really need to see what this rd can do in the real world.

My only concern right now is the report. It might be louder than I like from a RF round but once I buy one I'm just stuck with it after that.

http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/gun-shots/2013/01/worlds-fastest-rimfire

nastygunz · January 07, 2013, 07:23:36 AM

I think HaMeR has got his Super Magnum feva on

HaMeR · January 07, 2013, 07:46:36 AM