What kind of geese are these ?

bambam · September 10, 2015, 05:35:16 PM

My brother and I goose hunted last weekend and had a little luck. Set up in a cut cornfield in layout blinds. Soon after daylight a small group of geese came in , 3 of them white and about 5 or 6 Canadians. My brother got 2 of the white ones. I know they are not snow geese, they are the same size as the Canadian geese. We had seem them before , always with the Canadians and just as wild. Are they a cross with the Canadians or just domestic geese gone wild ?

nastygunz · September 10, 2015, 09:21:45 PM

Lesser Snowgeese or Ross geese?

FinsnFur · September 10, 2015, 10:14:50 PM

You got me

I'd call em Snow Geese...but I think we need Coulter in here

pitw · September 10, 2015, 11:56:54 PM

To big for Ross geese. Snow geese have black wing tips. They look domestic to me. Now watch coulter make me look foolish.

By any chance have you checked the want ads for someone missing a goose?

riverboss · September 11, 2015, 01:59:52 AM

To long necked and thin body for tame geese. They are usually fat and big necked. Maybe albinos? Hell that's my guess.

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pitw · September 11, 2015, 07:02:56 AM

Quote from: riverboss on September 11, 2015, 01:59:52 AM
To long necked and thin body for tame geese. They are usually fat and big necked. Maybe albinos? Hell that's my guess.

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I thought of that but on the albino's I've seen you could still make out the distinguishing features like cheek patches.

Coulter · September 11, 2015, 09:13:59 AM

QuoteNow watch coulter make me look foolish.

Nope, I was looking for the black wing tips too. This picture doesn't do much good for comparison since you can't see the wingtips...but this is a bonafide snow goose from Chincoteague Island, VA.

Those sure look like farm geese to me. The Ross geese also have some black in the wingtips and I believe are smaller. How did they taste?

Steve

Coulter · September 11, 2015, 09:16:08 AM

By the way, there is a place up in NY that I used to hunt that had a handful of domestic geese that always hung out with the Canada's. Guess it made them feel cool to hang out with the migrators or something.

bambam · September 11, 2015, 04:30:13 PM

Thanks guys ! I haven't eaten them yet but the breasts look just like the Canadian geese.

Hawks Feather · September 11, 2015, 05:50:20 PM

You know, they look like that rare endangered pair that went missing a couple of days ago. The original thought was that they were shot by that doctor that killed the pet lion over in Africa.

You might want to eat the quickly and bury the 'parts' in the deep water.

Jerry

slagmaker · September 11, 2015, 06:13:11 PM

They look like the dead kind to me

riverboss · September 11, 2015, 07:00:01 PM

Quote from: Hawks Feather on September 11, 2015, 05:50:20 PM
You know, they look like that rare endangered pair that went missing a couple of days ago. The original thought was that they were shot by that doctor that killed the pet lion over in Africa. You might want to eat the quickly and bury the 'parts' in the deep water.

Jerry

I just read about them on twitter! Seems they were escaped from the NAACP farming grounds and were true albinos.[emoji79] They are saying they are priceless and for the first time white lives matter.[emoji276]
The fine is $500000.00 for each bird and up to 4 yrs worth off classes with Jessie Jackson to cleanse your soul.

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bambam · September 11, 2015, 09:17:50 PM

Quote from: riverboss on September 11, 2015, 07:00:01 PM
Quote from: Hawks Feather on September 11, 2015, 05:50:20 PM
You know, they look like that rare endangered pair that went missing a couple of days ago. The original thought was that they were shot by that doctor that killed the pet lion over in Africa. You might want to eat the quickly and bury the 'parts' in the deep water.

Jerry
I just read about them on twitter! Seems they were escaped from the NAACP farming grounds and were true albinos.[emoji79] They are saying they are priceless and for the first time white lives matter.[emoji276]
The fine is $500000.00 for each bird and up to 4 yrs worth off classes with Jessie Jackson to cleanse your soul.

If Jesse Jackson shows up on my land he will be much more endangered than that lion or any albino I can promise you.

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HaMeR · September 12, 2015, 06:38:13 AM

If jackson shows any concern for anything white then I believe they quit using green on our $$.

Coulter · September 12, 2015, 06:49:26 AM

Okay guys...so here are some more "expert" answers from a waterfowlers forum that I frequent. These guys aren't just a bunch of blowhards either. They really do know their stuff...

QuoteHere in Ohio they wouldn't have counted towards their limit....

QuoteCouple of fine looking Emden Geese! Anser anser domesticus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emden_goose

QuoteThat is an interesting situation. If domestic breed you would not need to worry about a Federal violation of taking a light phased migratory specie during the Canadian Goose season. However, a state warden could nail you. To count Federally it has to be listed in the MBTA and domestic species of geese are not.

Doesn't look like a hybrid Canada Domestic Cross becuase some traits show in first and second generations. Not leucistic either.

QuoteFrom what I can see in the photo I think Carl is half right. I say that because of what little I can tell from the bills. They look thinner and pinker then what I would expect in a pure domestic Greylag. I have seen some nearly pure white or at least very lightly marked Canada x Park Goose hybrids.

If that was a recent photo I know what else I'd say. Just like I don't shoot at dark colored geese when spring Snow Goose hunting I sure wouldn't shoot white geese in September. I guess maybe someone could be 100% sure they were domestic but it takes a lot to be that sure on the wing.

QuoteBarnyard geese......probably taste darn good......

So there you have it...I'd go with the consensus here...

pitw · September 12, 2015, 07:34:54 AM

Quote from: Coulter on September 12, 2015, 06:49:26 AM
Okay guys...so here are some more "expert" answers from a waterfowlers forum that I frequent. These guys aren't just a bunch of blowhards either. They really do know their stuff...

QuoteHere in Ohio they wouldn't have counted towards their limit....

QuoteCouple of fine looking Emden Geese! Anser anser domesticus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emden_goose

QuoteThat is an interesting situation. If domestic breed you would not need to worry about a Federal violation of taking a light phased migratory specie during the Canadian Goose season. However, a state warden could nail you. To count Federally it has to be listed in the MBTA and domestic species of geese are not.

Doesn't look like a hybrid Canada Domestic Cross becuase some traits show in first and second generations. Not leucistic either.

QuoteFrom what I can see in the photo I think Carl is half right. I say that because of what little I can tell from the bills. They look thinner and pinker then what I would expect in a pure domestic Greylag. I have seen some nearly pure white or at least very lightly marked Canada x Park Goose hybrids.

If that was a recent photo I know what else I'd say. Just like I don't shoot at dark colored geese when spring Snow Goose hunting I sure wouldn't shoot white geese in September. I guess maybe someone could be 100% sure they were domestic but it takes a lot to be that sure on the wing.

QuoteBarnyard geese......probably taste darn good......

So there you have it...I'd go with the consensus here...

Believing a hunter would be as bad as believing a fisherman.

Coulter · September 12, 2015, 09:14:41 AM

I agree Barry...however, these guys aren't just hunters. They are carvers of waterfowl decoys. Some of them actually make a living by carving decoys, nothing else. They truly do know their birds...better than most CO's I might add.

Steve

pitw · September 12, 2015, 09:10:45 PM

Quote from: Coulter on September 12, 2015, 09:14:41 AM
I agree Barry...however, these guys aren't just hunters. They are carvers of waterfowl decoys. Some of them actually make a living by carving decoys, nothing else. They truly do know their birds...better than most CO's I might add.

Steve

Steve I hear you completely and give way to your experience.

However the thought that the Crimson Amphibian calls' himself a hunter still makes me not quite at 99%.

Coulter · September 13, 2015, 06:51:01 AM

No need to give way to my experience Barry...we were both on the same page from the start

Ha....The crimson amphibian still lurks around these parts?

bambam · September 13, 2015, 03:57:01 PM

Quote from: Coulter on September 12, 2015, 06:49:26 AM
Okay guys...so here are some more "expert" answers from a waterfowlers forum that I frequent. These guys aren't just a bunch of blowhards either. They really do know their stuff...

QuoteHere in Ohio they wouldn't have counted towards their limit....

QuoteCouple of fine looking Emden Geese! Anser anser domesticus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emden_goose

QuoteThat is an interesting situation. If domestic breed you would not need to worry about a Federal violation of taking a light phased migratory specie during the Canadian Goose season. However, a state warden could nail you. To count Federally it has to be listed in the MBTA and domestic species of geese are not.

Doesn't look like a hybrid Canada Domestic Cross becuase some traits show in first and second generations. Not leucistic either.

QuoteFrom what I can see in the photo I think Carl is half right. I say that because of what little I can tell from the bills. They look thinner and pinker then what I would expect in a pure domestic Greylag. I have seen some nearly pure white or at least very lightly marked Canada x Park Goose hybrids.

If that was a recent photo I know what else I'd say. Just like I don't shoot at dark colored geese when spring Snow Goose hunting I sure wouldn't shoot white geese in September. I guess maybe someone could be 100% sure they were domestic but it takes a lot to be that sure on the wing.

QuoteBarnyard geese......probably taste darn good......

So there you have it...I'd go with the consensus here...

Thanks again Coulter ! That third quote there puzzles me . I was in compliance with all Federal and state laws , so how could a state warden have nailed me ? Just to be sure , I went back and read the federal and state regulations. The state regulations say" Canada/white fronted geese" . I don't remember seeing white fronted geese in the regulations before. What the L is a white - fronted goose ?