Great coyote dog in action

possumal · June 08, 2007, 06:07:38 AM

Just thought some of you guys would like to see a picture of Jerry Hunsley's great coyote dog, Wylie, in action. He is one smart rascal and knows his stuff. Wylie saw one coming from a long way off in this picture. Great dog with a good guy for an owner.

FinsnFur · June 08, 2007, 07:27:58 AM

Where's ole Jerry been hiding anyway?

possumal · June 08, 2007, 12:53:46 PM

I read a post there a few weeks ago where he said something about making a trip out west, but I haven't heard from him in a while. He is probably out there giving Wiley a workout. He may have him another dog too. If he does, he'll have to go some to beat old Wylie.

KySongDog · June 08, 2007, 04:28:02 PM

I remember seeing a video clip of Wylie in action with a yote. Can't recall where I saw it right now but he's a heck of a dog, that's for sure!

ohiobob · June 08, 2007, 04:58:52 PM

Does anyone know where to get the clip of Wylie in action? I have always wondered about hunting Coyotes with dogs
either tracking them or where they use little dogs as a lure
Bob

possumal · June 08, 2007, 05:32:54 PM

Quote from: ohiobob on June 08, 2007, 04:58:52 PM
Does anyone know where to get the clip of Wylie in action? I have always wondered about hunting Coyotes with dogs
either tracking them or where they use little dogs as a lure
Bob

Hey Bob: The clip is available at Jerry's website. His address is listed on the Call makers area. The clip is called Wylie dogging coyotes.
Here is his site: http://www.wileyonepredatorcalls.com/

ohiobob · June 08, 2007, 11:30:18 PM

That was cool,,now all I need is someone to EXPLAIN how this works,,are the coyotes coming because they see the dog
or does the dog see them first and go out to bait them in ??? I seen where someone sounded a call then it LOOKED like the coyote started to come in UNTIL the coyote seen the dog and went after the dog? that would be cool to see that in person

Thank you Possumal for the link,,it WAS VERY interesting
Bob

possumal · June 09, 2007, 07:08:07 AM

Hey Bob: It is a little bit of both. That darned Wylie was so smart that he figured out right quick what the ecaller was all about, and would position himself between the ecaller and where the coyotes were apt to come from. If he sees one, he will bristle up and growl if he is at a distance, and charge to meet the yote if he is commited. He postures, barks some, and all kinds of cool things. There are some good videos that show a lot of it, and it is cool. Jerry had never used an ecaller, so he normally just howls and does some regular calling to get the coyotes to respond, and then Wylie takes over. You shoot one of a pair, and he'll take off to try to bait the mate back to you. Some of these guys have two dogs and that is really a trip.

ohiobob · June 10, 2007, 03:24:05 AM

Al
I would REALLY like to see that in person at least once before I die,,so that means I have to hurry

But I can also see where you would have to have a SMART dog because a DUMB dog wouldnt be there to do it twice
Bob

newbomb · June 11, 2007, 08:37:56 PM

Wish there were guys around here that had decoy dogs that I could watch. I dont think there are any in southern Indiana.

Bopeye · June 12, 2007, 08:38:23 PM

That was awesome. I watched it today at work and was really impressed. Just by the looks of Wylie, he has to be a Mtn. Cur.
Good looking dog. I loved the action. That's kinda what I'm trying to get my curs to do, but they don't dare venture that far or it might be game over. I can't see that far in the thick.

I'd also like to get one of those howlers Jerry makes............anyone ever use one?

coyotehunter_1 · June 12, 2007, 09:36:22 PM

QuoteI'd also like to get one of those howlers Jerry makes............anyone ever use one?

Hey Bop, you mean one like this?

Remember that day, outside the restaurant in Crossville, we were practicing a group howl and the tourists got all excited ?

That was my Wiley One I was using.

Yep, a fine sounding howler... calls both tourists and coyotes.

Contact Jerry @ http://wileyonepredatorcalls.com/ or click on his FnF banner.

possumal · June 13, 2007, 06:57:38 AM

Hey Bopeye: Wylie is not a mountain cur. He is the same breed as "Old Yeller", a Ladner Blackmouth Cur. I have used Jerry's howler a lot and like it a bunch, especially for distress coyote sounds. It is light and works well on a lanyard too.

Bob D · June 13, 2007, 05:01:00 PM

Quote from: Bopeye on June 12, 2007, 08:38:23 PM

I'd also like to get one of those howlers Jerry makes............anyone ever use one?

Bop,
I was thinking the same as you, dang I must be loosin it :shck: Seriously I want to get one of Jerry's howlers cause I have read really good things about them.
Bob

Bopeye · June 13, 2007, 05:15:59 PM

Quote from: possumal on June 13, 2007, 06:57:38 AM
Hey Bopeye: Wylie is not a mountain cur. He is the same breed as "Old Yeller", a Ladner Blackmouth Cur. I have used Jerry's howler a lot and like it a bunch, especially for distress coyote sounds. It is light and works well on a lanyard too.

The Original Mtn. Cur claims the same title to their dog being the "Old Yeller" dog.........

I guess a cur is a cur when it comes to that part.
I do like those Black mouth curs and am sticking with the larger size OMCBA curs because of that. I've corresponded a little with Jerry.........sure would like to go hunting with him. I use to live not too far from where he is now, but gosh that would be a drive at this point. I'm guessing close to 2000 miles without looking at mapquest.

The Mountain Cur in these parts use to be called "Bear dogs" until about the 50's. They are gritty on large game as long as not too much of certain bloodlines are in them. Then they are just good squirrel dogs. I won't name any names so as not to offend some of my brethren in the Original Mtn. Cur Breeders Assoc., but they will know which blood I'm talking about.

I have the book "The History and Stories of the Original Mtn. Cur". Several names were in there that now claim different bloodlines, but all came from the same original dogs in the 50's. Just for the record.......L.H. Ladner was not one of them.
He started the Ladner Blackmouth Cur.
However, the Stephens Mtn. Cur and the Kemmer Mtn. Cur were both in there, but later broke away from the OMCBA.

Oops..........didn't mean to get sidetracked on this thread. Sorry.

I remember that call Chet.......I didn't know that was the call. It sounded really good.

I bought a Primos Mini Mag howler yesterday...........the jury is still out on it........

We'll see. More open reed stuff........ya know how that goes for me at times.

possumal · June 13, 2007, 08:50:12 PM

Bopeye: All I can tell you is what I have been told by Mr. Ladner himself. The Ladner Blackmouth Cur has been in his family for about 200 years. The mountain curs I have seen in some of the videos don't look like the same dog to me. They have been bred to be nearly solid white, and don't look as big as the Ladner Blackmouth Cur. I am sure they both make great decoy dogs. I can attest to the fact the Jerry Hunsley's Wylie is a great one. Too smart to believe.

Bopeye · June 13, 2007, 10:43:06 PM

I wasn't trying to claim any different Al..........I don't know much about the Blackmouth cur other than what I've read. I didn't mean for you to think I was lumping his curs in with others, that's why I posted this part, "I have the book "The History and Stories of the Original Mtn. Cur". Several names were in there that now claim different bloodlines, but all came from the same original dogs in the 50's. Just for the record.......L.H. Ladner was not one of them.
He started the Ladner Blackmouth Cur.
However, the Stephens Mtn. Cur and the Kemmer Mtn. Cur were both in there, but later broke away from the OMCBA."

Sorry about whatever confusion I might have caused. I couldn't find any link between Mr. Ladner and other curs.......other than they were curs. All I was trying to point out is the fact that a lot of Cur breeds do come from the same lines, but not the Ladner Cur.

As I stated before, I do like the looks of those curs. I had a real light colored Original Mtn. Cur female, but most of mine are yellow to yellowish red now.
Check out my site: http://hawkshawcurs.tripod.com/

possumal · June 14, 2007, 06:14:34 AM

No problem, Bopeye, I followed your post o.k.. My understanding after talking to Mr. Ladner, is that he and his son started the Blackmouth Cur Club a short time back, but he did not start the Ladner Blackmouth Cur, as they have been in his family for about 200 years. They started this club, if that is the proper name, to show the separation between their line and other curs. I think that someone in England started this white looking mountain cur you see in some of the videos. I know that the Ladner strain are born with plenty of drive and grit.

Silencer · June 19, 2007, 02:31:46 PM

That vid clip of Wiley in action is somethin' !!!

wlong · September 05, 2007, 06:16:04 AM

I like that part in "Old Yeller" where Travis picks up Yeller's pup and says something Like "What really matters is if the inside of his mouth is black."