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Started by DirtyDog, November 16, 2008, 06:04:20 PM

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DirtyDog

Just bought this gem......need to put some glass on it.

Browning A Bolt II Stainless in .223 wssm

yucca

Nice rifle. That will really put the coyotes down. I killed a bunch with mine. I had to sale it to fund another project.

coyote101

Very nice Joe.  :yoyo: How are you going to scope it?

Pat
NRA Life Member

"On the plains of hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions who, at the dawn of decision, sat down to wait, and waiting died." - Sam Ewing

DirtyDog

Quote from: coyote101 on November 16, 2008, 07:50:44 PM
Very nice Joe.  :yoyo: How are you going to scope it?

Pat

Not sure....I'm thinking Nikon right now.

KySongDog

Nice lookin' gun.

What is the ballistics difference between a .223 and .223 wssm?  Is the .223 wssm much faster?  :confused:

DirtyDog

Here is some info that someone gave to me about the wssm.........


The 223 WSSM is a new centerfire rifle cartridge developed in partnership with Browning Arms Company and Winchester ammunition, making its debut and introduced to the shooting public in 2003.

The 223 WSSM is a wildcat cartridge based on the 404 jeffery cartridge case, shortening and necking down to .22 caliber and sharpening the shoulder angle to 28 degrees the new 223 WSSM cartridge gets a definite boost in case capacity.

The 223 WSSM cartridge achieves true wildcat performance at the factory level, providing varmint hunters and shooters with a very high level of 22 caliber super performance. This is the first cartridge where handloaders will have the option in a cartridge to load their own to super performance beyond that of the 220 Swift or load at more modest barrel saving levels of 22-250 Remington velocities.

The 223 WSSM factory loadings show a velocity of 3,850 feet per second for a 55 grain bullet while this is only slightly more than the Remington 22-250 which shows a velocity of 3,680 feet per second, barrel life for the two rounds will not be the same, as the 223 WSSM chamberings in browning and winchester rifles have chrome bores to slow throat erosion therefore the 223 WSSM will have an extended barrel life beyond that of the 22-250.

The 223 WSSM is certainly a handloading varminters and wildcatters dream cartridge, this was borne out by Hornady's sixth edition of; Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading, where in the opening description of the 223 Winchester Super Short Magnum they stated "We examined the throat of the rifle with a bore scope after approximately 350 rounds and the erosion was significant. This cartridge is hard on barrels."

Why is the 223 WSSM cartridge hard on barrels?

The 223 WSSM is such a revolutionary new cartridge that Hornady when making the above statement also made a statement, same handbook, same page; Note: In the following data we were able to reach 4,600 fps with our 40 grain V-MAX. Our trajectory tables only cover that bullet to 4,400 fps.
Clearly in the Hornady statements, they as bullet manufacturers had never seen a commercial rifle cartridge produce such high velocities at saami safe chamber pressures, this exceeds anything prior by 200 feet per second. Clearly making the new 223 Winchester Super Short Magnum, the fastest commercial 22 caliber centerfire cartridge on planet earth.

The 223 WSSM cartridge is only hard on barrels when handloaded to extreme velocities, all factory ammunition for this cartridge does not reach that point.

Because the velocity is high on the 223 WSSM cartridge, anyone new to varminting is going to find out quickly their rifle barrels will carbon foul. This cartridge should not be fired in any rifle barrel more than 3 shots between total barrel cleanings and the barrel should be allowed to cool between each shot to maintain top notch accuracy.

For a beginner just getting into the world of long range varminting, the 223 WSSM cartridge is highly recommended as it offers excellent down range trajectories with plenty of bullet energy for very effective distant kills.

223 WSSM Barrel Specifications.
Common Barrel Twist Rate - 1 in 10".
Bore Groove Diameter - .224"

223 WSSM Reloading Specifications.
Bullet Diameter - .224"
Maximum Case Length - 1.670"
Trimmed Case Length - 1.660"
Primer Size - Large Rifle

coyotehunter_1

Hey Joe...good to see you. You got yourself a great rifle there.  :highclap:
You mentioned Nikon... good choice.

Please visit our ol' buddies over at: http://www.easterncoyotes.com

Born and raised in the southern highlands of Appalachia, I'm just an ol' country boy who enjoys calling coyotes... nothing more, nothing less.

KySongDog

Thanks for that info.  Sounds like that .223 wssm is a real screamer.   :wink:

vvarmitr

You've made a big step there .... & a good one! :wink:
I have the same type gun only mine isn't SS & in 25WSSM. :thumb2:  It's one of my very favorite guns. ;yes;

As for a scope I did some research as to what was available & I made this thread ...
http://www.finsandfur.net/forums/index.php?topic=4241.0
Only thing I would do different is I would get regular high rings.  I got the extra high Burris Signature Rings thinking my scope's bell would hit the barrel. There's plenty of room maybe could go w/ the med' rings?  :shrug:
Now if you wanted more power w/o the target knobs on the 6.5-20X you can go through their custom shop & have regular scope adjustments put on & even get the Boone & Crockett reticle put in.  :eyebrow:  Sometimes I wonder if I should have.  :wo:

Here is a website w/ a forum on it to help if ya need it ...
http://wssmzone.com/main/default.aspx

OMT  Timney has springs for your trigger.  5 minutes & $20 & you'll be tickled w/ what you did.  :yahoo:  I am!  ;yes;

Keep me up to date on how it's going for ya.  :wink:

Carolina Coyote

Great Gun Joe, I have 243 wssm and really love the gun, a real tack driver, just be carefull with reloads, a coyote will never know the differance between 3600fps and 4000fps. I'm sure you will enjoy the rifle.cc

DirtyDog

Decided to go with the Nikon Pro Staff......found it for a pretty good buy off ebay. I'll get some pics up when I get it.

Frogman

dd,
       I have a Nikon Pro-Staff 3-9x40 on my R-15.  It's a really nice scope for the money.

Jim
You can't kill 'em from the recliner!!

vvarmitr


DirtyDog

Nope, and I wouldn't trust myself to either.  :nono:

slagmaker

++ On the Nikon pro staff. I have the same thing on my AR and I am quite happy with its performance.
Don't bring shame to our sport.

He died for dipshits too.

nor-cal yote

    DD hey nice rifle,bet you can't wait to shoot it. That CZ that I got has turned out to be a pretty good yote killer. when I get my camera set up I send some photos
never yell whoa in a horse race

DirtyDog

Man I can't wait to see some of them photos! How the heck have ya been man?

nor-cal yote

 I have been good, but real busy, rehabbing all the fires that we had this summer, but try to get in some calling here and there. But starting tomorrow I have the next 5 days off :yoyo: I don't think I'll sleep much tonight!
never yell whoa in a horse race

DirtyDog

Good luck.....after shooting this thing, I am goona get out on Saturday afternoon and Sunday.

nor-cal yote

 hey good luck to you, good to hear from you!
never yell whoa in a horse race