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Started by rwire125, January 23, 2009, 09:01:29 AM

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rwire125

enyone ever bed a ruger rifle stock? looking for the good bad and the ugly ive heard eveything from there easyer than others to dont do it  :confused:

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Not I.
I've wanted to try it, but didn't want to be laid up without me good gun :nono:
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alscalls

I have......a long time ago.....I would rather float the barrel. Less chance of screwing it up and no mess. I do not feel I gained anything by doing it.......Matter of fact I sold that rifle not long after doing it cause I was not happy with it.
Not enough release agent and you have a glued on stock. And if it dose not shoot well for ya afterwords.....you will need a new stock..... :nono: Just not worth it for me.
I currently have two Ruger M77's and I would not bed either of them ever.
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Hawks Feather

If you are planning on having your Ruger bedded, have it done by a professional and plan to spend at least a couple of hundred on the job.  If it is your local "hey I tried that once and think I can do it" guy, don't waste your time and money.  If you want to try a bedding job yourself, try a Remington.  After you have done 8 to 10 Remingtons and you think it is time to do your Ruger - take it to a professional.  The angled bolt makes for a difficult job of getting a pillar set perfectly and the pillar really improves the bedding job.  Just sticking a bedding agent in the action of a stock will really not do too much.  I have had two gunsmiths and one stock maker do bedding for me and all three jobs looked the same - wood inside the action was removed, pillars installed, bedding extended about two inches into the barrel channel, and the rest of the barrel floated.

Just floating a barrel by removing wood from the channel will quite often decrease accuracy.  I know that I removed the channel bump in several rifles only to see the accuracy drop.  (Ruger 77/22s will even show a greater drop in accuracy when the bump is removed.)  These were Remingtons and I then did the pillar bedding (similar to what the professionals did, but not as good of job) and the accuracy did improve to better than when I first shot the rifles and much better than after I had removed the barrel bump. 

If you are wanting to see what increase/decrease is happening you need to be shooting from a solid bench, with a solid rest, and remain as consistent as possible.  And no, a wadded up sweatshirt is not a solid rest.  By this I am not saying that you can't shoot better off a wadded up sweatshirt, but if you are really trying to see what is happening with groups, you need to have each shot remain the same.

I am not trying to come off as a "know it all", but I have played with some of these things long enough to know what I should try and what I should pass off to someone else.

Jerry

rwire125

i have a new BellCarlson stock that i think the inleting is kinda crappy so im going to try and bed it, the 45deg angle bolt apears to do nothing more than pull the action lug up tight  to the inlet in the stock??? and according to all ive red from the manufacturs directions and answers ive recived from other fourms from guys that have done it and by myself fitting my action into the BC stock i really cant seam to figure out what all the fuss is about, to me it seams like a great way to assur your action sits perfectly in the stock and i dont see where the bedding material needs to get behinde the action lug mostly above it on the flatt the the reciver mates too the stock and an inch and a half of barrel or so then free float the rest of the barrel, someone needs to correct me if im wrong, but i sure dont like the way my action fits in the BC stock it way be fine for others but maybe im just to picky

rwire125

well i did it now just to wait 24hr to try and seperate the action  :wo:

Silencer


Hawks Feather

Did you pillar bed it or just skim the action?

rwire125

i did a skim if you can call it that, the new BC stock needs alot of fitting imo and also has large voids to fill by the barrel shank and also in the lug area, i was given a tip to pop the action out at the 4-5 hour mark to check for any bonding issues, probly a good thing as there was a couple small spots along the sides of the action that where holdin but no biggy ,also i didnt fill the barrel shank area up enough to get a inch half of contact so im redoing that area now but the lug area turned out great and im doing this in a 2 step process that was recomended to me 1) lug, barrel shank area 2) tang area  so far this has been pretty easy besides the stress of woundering if it will turn out and not bond the action to the stock. i think this would be easyer with the stock  walnut stock as you are already sure of the mounting areas, as with the BC stock the inleting is kinda crude and oneven so there is always the question if im removing to much material trying to smooth things out, and as for free floating the barrel, it was rec. to free float and shoot it  if not happy start putting shotgun wad peddels under the tip of the stock to make pressure point untill satified then glue them in place or use some bedding material to keep in place if thats what it likes, long and short this is not as bad as people make it out to be on rugers,everyone seems scared of the angled bolt, but its just a bolt not an angled mounting lug! and ill show pictures after the stock is compleated this week then shooting reports to follow

Hawks Feather

Skim bedding is usually not a problem on any rifle.  The problem with Ruger rifles comes when you set the angle pillar and don't have the equipment to get the proper fit.  Then again maybe they have simplified all the bedding process in the past couple of years.

Jerry

Silencer

Quoteill show pictures after the stock is compleated this week then shooting reports to follow

:yoyo:  curious is all  :eyebrownod:

rwire125

#11
the way i understand it its not necessary to piller a ruger  do to the angled bolt and there lug set up and im currently in step 2

rwire125

oh a mr feather from what the gun nuts at BR.com are telling me this is the shit for rugers  :yoyo:

Hawks Feather

Very knowledgeable people there, go for it.

Jerry

rwire125

the bedding of the action is done now im putting it on a diet, she has lost just about a 1/2 pound by removing the surprisingly heavy BellCarlson recoil pad with a thin pacmer pad and drilling out the butt of the stock and also swiss cheesing the mag box tonight im hollowing out the bolt handle to see how many tons i can lose there, then shes ready to head to the range tomorrow  :eyebrow:

rwire125

well shes done, the bedding was a pieace of pie, but the BC stock on the otherhand needed much work to get the barrel free floated and all top inleting set only to find the trigger guard area would not allow the floor plate to compleatly close what a pain in the ass, this probly would have been much easyer with the org. stock, BUT BEDDING A RUGER IS WAY EASY!!!!! The pictures show the lug and barrel shank area the gold you see was  silly puddy used to form dams to stop the bedding mat, today will be the first trip to the range and will post results later tonight. review of the BC stock I would save my money up for a better model other than the carbolite somthing with an sluminum beddig blk to add stiffness to the forarm but then that wou probly add more weight at this point I was only able to get it down to approx 7lb the way you see it







alscalls

Looks like 9 Days of easy to me........ :laf:

I love the paint job on that thing :yoyo: :yoyo: :yoyo: :highclap: :highclap: :highclap:
I hope she shoots good for ya!
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rwire125

shooting report cant say its better or not but i have no doubt if i hadnt done all the work that i did to the slopy fitting BC stock it wouldnt have turned out this good but all an all im happy with the results, both targets 100yards first one was a 5 shot group the after was a 6 shot group


befor bedding



new stock bedded